edit: Derp, nvm

Here is the problem lets take a card that is actually in the meta.

Now when looking at what flight instructor does it seems like the perfect counter, until you do the comparison.

It takes up a crew slot (which not all ships have) and is twice the points. Also this only protects you from a juke it doesn't protect you from a bad roll. There's another card which does what flight instructor does only better for the same cost.

Still you don't see this upgrade much because there are better crew options like palp and being that extremely expensive 4 points (1.5 is now average for non weapon upgrades) for a typical non-meta upgrade you just won't take her. So if you won't equip the better option for the same cost how would FI make any more of a difference for Scum or Rebels?

I think we can safely leave Flight Instructor behind. It's awful, for sure, but effective defense crew cards have been oppressive in the past: C-3P0 Falcons, Isard Decis, Palpatine in a way...

So long as FI can be equipped to large ships, I'm fine with forgetting that it exists.

If this was just two points, it could see play. You can reroll a blank vs TLTs. It could get used 8 times in a single round. That is worth it.

It would be cool if they just errata this to be the defensive predator. Keep the cost at 4pts, but just reroll any defense die once, and two die if pilot skill is 2 or lower.

25 minutes ago, wurms said:

If this was just two points, it could see play. You can reroll a blank vs TLTs. It could get used 8 times in a single round. That is worth it.

It would be cool if they just errata this to be the defensive predator. Keep the cost at 4pts, but just reroll any defense die once, and two die if pilot skill is 2 or lower.

This might just edge out Kallus on some Phantom, especially when TLTs are expected.

5 hours ago, numb3rc said:

This might just edge out Kallus on some Phantom, especially when TLTs are expected.

It depends, Kalus really did came out too late for its own good. If it was out in Wave 5 (the hallmark of the 2 ship meta) It would have been one of the most complained about cards instead of one of the many forgotten upgrades.

This with sensor jammer and lone wolf. Makes something very hard to kill. Probably is that when after all that and your Green Dice do fail...it's a lot of points.

Well as promised I ran Flight Instructor tonight. NEVER AGAIN!

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said before. If it was -4 points I might consider it just for the initiative bid. Operative word being might. Like bumps on a pickle, I think it serves no practical purpose.

8 hours ago, wurms said:

If this was just two points, it could see play. You can reroll a blank vs TLTs. It could get used 8 times in a single round. That is worth it.

It would be cool if they just errata this to be the defensive predator. Keep the cost at 4pts, but just reroll any defense die once, and two die if pilot skill is 2 or lower.

51 minutes ago, Stoneface said:

Well as promised I ran Flight Instructor tonight. NEVER AGAIN!

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said before. If it was -4 points I might consider it just for the initiative bid. Operative word being might. Like bumps on a pickle, I think it serves no practical purpose.

As said before if it were only 2 points it would be alright because there are way better options at 4 points. Still people don't want the meta to go back to the point fortresses of Wave 5-6 and all swiss matches go to time so good defense cards are just not going to be made. After all there is a reason why green dice have 3 blanks where red only have 2.

If you get attacked 3 or more times per round then it maths out okay but since that rarely happens these days...

Flight instructor came out in the Lambda in wave 3. At that time, TIE swarms with academy TIEs reigned as the meta king (sounds funny now).

Omicron Group Pilot (32) - Against a PS 1 TIE swarm this is brutal, if the TIE doesn't have focus its virtually impossible to hit it.
Flight Instructor
Sensor Jammmer
Recon Specialist

I could see flight instructor as adding a focus result whenever you defend, but that just makes Phantoms even better (especially Whisper).

If there is an FAQ to reduce the point cost to 3 maybe, if 2 maybe more likely, if 1 then yes it would see the table. At 4 its hard to swing when there are a lot of amazing pilots. This card came out with the shuttle and never saw the light of day because people were flying Vader and did not want to give up the 4 points or Buzzsaw (HLC) with more offensive options. When Yt-2400 and Dec came out there where many more pilots that made sense over Flight Instructor. The Flight Instructor is just not good for fun play or torny.

4 minutes ago, Cubanboy said:

If there is an FAQ to reduce the point cost to 3 maybe, if 2 maybe more likely, if 1 then yes it would see the table. At 4 its hard to swing when there are a lot of amazing pilots. This card came out with the shuttle and never saw the light of day because people were flying Vader and did not want to give up the 4 points or Buzzsaw (HLC) with more offensive options. When Yt-2400 and Dec came out there where maybe more pilots that made sense. The Fleet Officer is just not good for fun play or torny.

Well remember - you need to be rolling at least one green die to use Flight Instructor and if you're being attacked and have a focus, it is often better to spend it.

The YT-2400 benefits way too much from getting that focus, either through Kanan, Recon Specialist, or Kyle, and not only are they all better than Flight Instructor but they're also cheaper! Easy choice there!

As for the Deci, you've got no green dice and a lot of hurt to throw out. Gunner, HSCP, Vader, Rebel Captive, Palpatine... plenty of better options there too.

Just now, numb3rc said:

Well remember - you need to be rolling at least one green die to use Flight Instructor and if you're being attacked and have a focus, it is often better to spend it.

The YT-2400 benefits way too much from getting that focus, either through Kanan, Recon Specialist, or Kyle, and not only are they all better than Flight Instructor but they're also cheaper! Easy choice there!

As for the Deci, you've got no green dice and a lot of hurt to throw out. Gunner, HSCP, Vader, Rebel Captive, Palpatine... plenty of better options there too.

Yea I was not even thinking about putting it on the DEC. I just think the DEC came with better options for the shuttle. Its a dead card unless they faq it to 1, then people will only use it if they need 1 points worth of stuff.

I have actually used it, and won because of flight instructor, it was on torkil mux with ion turret and stealth device, having the 3rd evade and putting the attacker down to ps 0 to garentee the reroll blank kept torkil alive a lot longer than he should have been

44 minutes ago, Aresxero said:

I have actually used it, and won because of flight instructor, it was on torkil mux with ion turret and stealth device, having the 3rd evade and putting the attacker down to ps 0 to garentee the reroll blank kept torkil alive a lot longer than he should have been

You would have probably gotten more use out of the Moldy Crow Title or Rec Spec.

2 hours ago, Jo Jo said:

You would have probably gotten more use out of the Moldy Crow Title or Rec Spec.

Palob had the title, and torkil generally had a focus as well, palob taking focus off my opponents and torkil having that defensive re roll has really helped me and annoyed some opponents.

I like this card when I'm using Recon Specialist, Swarm Leader, and Weapons Guidance on the Upsilon. I'ts pretty useful when you need both focuses for your 4-6 dice attack.

Well, if you reeeaaaally need that focus for something else. I've played it and seen it played, and obviously it does... something, but it's almost never worth it. As in "unnecessary" and "expensive"- which is what kind of dooms it.

At least it works when you can't take an action. Pretty good on maybe Kenkirk.

It’s ok. If you have lots of extra points left over.

Flight Instructor thread, back from the dead. Im waiting for a pilot ability to say, "While defending, treat all blanks as eyeballs. If you do, you cannot spend focus tokens on defense." Then maybe Flight Instructor will be worth it.

Well, for funsies, Im gonna Dengar with Flight Instructor, figure if I am gonna spend 4pts, might as well add it to an expensive *** ship to dilute its cost: (7% of total ship cost compared to 16% if you tossed it on an OGP lambda). Dengar should last most of the game as well since Bossk is out-and-about and always enemy #1, giving me more value from this wretched card. So, here is my funsy list I will try:

On 2/1/2017 at 8:54 AM, heychadwick said:

I was all set to defend this card, but then realized I was thinking of Fleet Officer. Yeah, even I have never used this card.

If you played through HotAC, you use this guy on the Imperial Shuttle!

With sensor jammer. I remember it being a pain.

I can already see Flight Instructor patting Dengar on the back, "Keep it up, bud! You're doing great!"

42 minutes ago, Sparklelord said:

If you played through HotAC, you use this guy on the Imperial Shuttle!

With sensor jammer . I remember it being a pain.

I played through that scenario with 2 players perhaps 10 times before we won. That shuttle is near-impossible to destroy with single-action, no EPT ships that desperately want to stay alive as well...