Quick question are the miniatures prepainted?
Prepainted?
Quick answer: although the prices would suggest that, no.
I do not think the price suggests that the miniatures are pre painted at all. You are getting a lot of plastic and box contents for your money. Just like the Imperial Assault box set.
I'm sorry, I was being a bit sarcastic. Actually I like that the miniatures are not prepainted, as I was looking forward to do the painting myself. I'm just bitter at realizing that this game is going to be too expensive for me.
definitely the price has put the brakes on the hype. Well it doesn't mean that we won't get into it somehow for the ones like me still interested but we'll have to figure out how.
The pre-painted aspect has never bothered me as I have already painted minis some years ago. Would have liked to have the minis in different colors though, but let's see what's in the box before deciding anything.
The models aren't prepainted as that would cost considerable more than X-wing that only requires a couple of colours and a wash. If you are feeling flush you could always hire a company to paint the figures for you but in the UK that works our about £4 per figure, which would cost a small fortune.
Then I am out, as I am only interested in prepainted miniatures. Been looking at those pretty Age of Sigmar models, but as I am unable to paint, that has been a no go, then this surfaced which got me VERY exited!!!! but alas...
If only you are interested in the pre-painted miniatures you should try with HeroClix, no wargame will ever trevera the prepainted miniatures
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1 hour ago, Sciencius said:Been looking at those pretty Age of Sigmar models, but as I am unable to paint,
I thought I was unable to paint before giving it a try when I was 19-20 years old. And if it is a problem of money just go and try to paint at a shop or with a friend. You don't have to paint wonderful things right at the start. I began with the starting box Warhammer FB Battle at Skullpass and began slowly painting dwarves and goblins. Now I have some Space wolves that I've painted completely for fun, trying for each wolf a different scheme of colors and I had more fun doing this than painting always the same pattern on dozens of minis.
Well and to come back to our humans and skeletons, depending on how are the minis when I see them, I will decide or not to paint them but again I think tha if I go back into painting, I will do it with my own tastes instead of repeating the "official" painted minis.
1 hour ago, Elrad said:I thought I was unable to paint before giving it a try
It was Sorastro that got me to try painting and I was impressed that even my very first shoddy paint jobs looked great at gaming distance. The reality is it's a LOT easier to get good looking figures on the game board than you'd expect, as they aren't designed to be inspected up close.
My first painting project was Imperial Assault, but I finished painting it before Sorastro had any painting tutorials up. It was my first time painting miniatures and I was just using craft paints and craft brushes I found at Michaels. I read some tutorials, bought some brush-on primer, and got started. I read up on how to make my own wash and bought the liquid (don't remember what it's called) to mix with paints to get the desired wash color. That's how I did my miniatures. You can see the results here: http://s285.photobucket.com/user/Budgernaut/library/Imperial Assault Painting?sort=3&page=1 . For a first-timer, I think they turned out pretty well. Like I said, except for the primer, I bought all the materials at a local craft store (Michael's, if you're in the U.S.).
It does take some time, but I really enjoyed it. It was like coloring in a three dimensional coloring book.
10 minutes ago, Budgernaut said:My first painting project was Imperial Assault, but I finished painting it before Sorastro had any painting tutorials up. It was my first time painting miniatures and I was just using craft paints and craft brushes I found at Michaels. I read some tutorials, bought some brush-on primer, and got started. I read up on how to make my own wash and bought the liquid (don't remember what it's called) to mix with paints to get the desired wash color. That's how I did my miniatures. You can see the results here: http://s285.photobucket.com/user/Budgernaut/library/Imperial Assault Painting?sort=3&page=1 . For a first-timer, I think they turned out pretty well. Like I said, except for the primer, I bought all the materials at a local craft store (Michael's, if you're in the U.S.).
It does take some time, but I really enjoyed it. It was like coloring in a three dimensional coloring book.
Nicely done!
46 minutes ago, Budgernaut said:My first painting project was Imperial Assault, but I finished painting it before Sorastro had any painting tutorials up. It was my first time painting miniatures and I was just using craft paints and craft brushes I found at Michaels. I read some tutorials, bought some brush-on primer, and got started. I read up on how to make my own wash and bought the liquid (don't remember what it's called) to mix with paints to get the desired wash color. That's how I did my miniatures. You can see the results here: http://s285.photobucket.com/user/Budgernaut/library/Imperial Assault Painting?sort=3&page=1 . For a first-timer, I think they turned out pretty well. Like I said, except for the primer, I bought all the materials at a local craft store (Michael's, if you're in the U.S.).
It does take some time, but I really enjoyed it. It was like coloring in a three dimensional coloring book.
great work!
2 hours ago, Budgernaut said:It was like coloring in a three dimensional coloring book.
Yours turned out great, but here's some general tips for everyone, some of which you seem to get.
Don't expect to be able to paint Golden Demon level mini's the first try, in fact don't ever expect to be able to paint to that level... Things like that are for people who are truly talented and spend years honing that talent. Saying you won't paint mini's because you're not at that level is like saying you won't play catch because you're not good enough for the majors.
A common mistake people make is to inspect the model from a few inches away, when in reality your models will be a couple feet away. A few feet makes a huge difference in how things look. Myself when I paint (currently working on my Blood Bowl team) I paint for 6-8 inches, which means if you inspect it up close under a magnifying glass you'll see a lot of issues. But they look good from 6-8 inches away and that means they look good on the table.
Don't try to make them ultra detailed either. Just basic colors can make a huge difference. Most of my BB team is just basic green/yellow right now. I did the base coat on all of them. The three I finished look better on the table, but honestly if I never put another drop of paint on the rest they wouldn't look bad.
Washes make a huge difference, and there's lots of youtube videos on how to do a wash. For a few bucks citadel's nuln oil is like magic in a bottle.
A wet pallet also makes a big difference. I'll link a video below about making one, it really is quite cheap, it cost about $5 to make mine, and it has made for a noticeable improvement in my painting.
But again, the biggest thing is not to expect yours to look like what you see from Games Workshop's 'Eavy Metal or FFG's painting team, because those are people who are paid to paint for display reasons not for tabletop reasons. Tabletop Minions which I have a link to one of the videos below, also has some great tips about starting out and a couple videos about the price of perfection and not getting discouraged. Because frankly if I can paint decent mini's anyone can do it, and I've actually gotten to the point of being actually good at it.
Thought I'd use a few thousand words via Pictures... Here's a picture of some of my blood bowl team that's really nothing more than the base coat, the picture is taken with my crappy cellphone camera. But it's good enough to get the point.
This is a picture from last night's game taken from what is really about the typical distance when you're playing. I think you can see that what looks like a fairly poor paint job up close doesn't really look that bad when on the table from a little ways away.
Can't see your glorious Blood Bowl pictures
23 minutes ago, VanorDM said:Thought I'd use a few thousand words via Pictures... Here's a picture of some of my blood bowl team that's really nothing more than the base coat, the picture is taken with my crappy cellphone camera. But it's good enough to get the point.
This is a picture from last night's game taken from what is really about the typical distance when you're playing. I think you can see that what looks like a fairly poor paint job up close doesn't really look that bad when on the table from a little ways away.
I think they look great! That other team just looks like a green mess. I hope you kicked their butt.
29 minutes ago, Iceeagle85 said:Can't see your glorious Blood Bowl pictures
They show up for me, and for Kubernes I think... Let me see if I can post just a link.
http://s271.photobucket.com/user/Vanor/media/Blood%20Bowl/20170114_111848_zpsoa054sky.jpg.html
http://s271.photobucket.com/user/Vanor/media/Blood%20Bowl/bloodbowl%20game_zps1kzaezvs.jpg.html
25 minutes ago, Kubernes said:I think they look great! That other team just looks like a green mess. I hope you kicked their butt.
I won 3 to 0. The other guy hadn't had a chance to even prime his yet, so that's just the raw green plastic they're made out of.
Painting is fun!
Some (more) tips if you're just starting out:
Choose a colored primer, and lightly (very lightly!) give your models a base coat in the major color you want to use.
Just paint 2-3 other colors over that. Remember, as others note above, you'll be looking at them from 3 feet away!
Apply a wash. Nuln oil will probably look great over the undead. Something warm (GW seraphim sepia or reikland fleshshade) for the humans, depending on what color scheme you go for.
You're done! They'll look awesome at 3 feet
When you really want to trick 'em out: go over the wash with the original color below, leaving a little of the wash visible at the edges. Add some basing material (Vallejo Sandy Paste is my fav, and comes in a variety of colors - when it dries you apply a wash, and lightly drybrush with a lighter color than the paste's original color. You could add some tufts of basing grass too)
Have fun!
I'll be using this as a guideline providing paint lists/tutorials aren't available for release.
3 hours ago, VanorDM said:They show up for me, and for Kubernes I think... Let me see if I can post just a link.
Strange Firefox doesn't show them but Safari does.
Nevertheless they are good starting point i would say, perhaps one shad + highlight (haven't been able do see those on the pictures) would make them better.
3 hours ago, Muz333 said:I'll be using this as a guideline providing paint lists/tutorials aren't available for release.
Blessed Duncan.
Do it for him.
I'm not an artist (Im actually a really really bad artist) but I have some experience painting minis.
I hate it, Im bad at it and I do find it a chore, but it's also kind of therapeutic and improves the game ALOT, the end result is more than worth it.
My advice:
- Basecoat with a spray (GW ones are brilliant).
- Paint the base colours onto all the parts. Skin, metal, leather, cloth (usually coloured), wood (sometimes coloured). If you make a mistake, meh, cover it up.
- Use a wash (a very thin paint, you can buy these) of a brown or black colour and just slap it on. You can get fancy and use black wash on the metal and different coloured washes on the different materials if you wish.
- Drybrush - get a lighter shade of all the colours you used, and with a dry brush, get some paint on the brush, slide it back and forth over some tissue until no or barely any paint is ocming off the brush. Then 'dust' the brush back and forth over the model (very satisfying). This will leave a highlight on the raised areas and bring the model to life.
- Now with a fine brush - add some details like eyes or teeth or hair or bone.
These steps will make your models look fantastic and don't take too much effort at all for looking like you took a TON of effort.
The secret is that in mini games like this, it doesn't matter if your models are painted very quickly - a unit of 20 of them sitting together will look amazing.
Don't be afraid to whip out the paints!
15 hours ago, Iceeagle85 said:Nevertheless they are good starting point i would say, perhaps one shad + highlight (haven't been able do see those on the pictures) would make them better.
That's exactly what they are, a starting point. I was watching a WHTV video in same series posted above and he mentioned that he paints a whole unit at a time, but only the base coat. Then goes in and adds wash/detail/ect... later. So that's what I did with the above picture, painted all 12 of my human team with just the base coat with no washes, highlights, details, ect...
But even with just a base coat they don't look bad on the table, a couple simple washes and they'd look even better. Which was my point, you don't have to be a great painter to make something that looks good on the table. You don't need highly detailed paint jobs, just a few base colors, a wash or two, a little dry bush and while they may not look great at 3 inches, they will look good at 3 feet, and in a tray of other guys with even basic basing, they'll look fine.
Guess my point is, as others have said, pick up a brush and give it a try, it's not as hard to get something that looks decent as some people think.
1 hour ago, VanorDM said:That's exactly what they are, a starting point. I was watching a WHTV video in same series posted above and he mentioned that he paints a whole unit at a time, but only the base coat. Then goes in and adds wash/detail/ect... later. So that's what I did with the above picture, painted all 12 of my human team with just the base coat with no washes, highlights, details, ect...
But even with just a base coat they don't look bad on the table, a couple simple washes and they'd look even better. Which was my point, you don't have to be a great painter to make something that looks good on the table. You don't need highly detailed paint jobs, just a few base colors, a wash or two, a little dry bush and while they may not look great at 3 inches, they will look good at 3 feet, and in a tray of other guys with even basic basing, they'll look fine.
Guess my point is, as others have said, pick up a brush and give it a try, it's not as hard to get something that looks decent as some people think.
That's the way I and most people I know do units, barring perhaps a testmini to see how it looks with your colour scheme.
And you are right it's relativ easy these days to get decent results thanks to washes, dips and what not and you do not need to spend hours with painting.
As you said grab a brus some paints and try it out, for the beginning you should try to lear to piant clear (not sure which english word to use here), hat i mean is that the colour your using should only be on the intended part of the miniature and the paint layer shouldn't be too thick or to thin, i would advise to always thin down your paints with a little water, it's better to do several thin layers than one thick. Once you fell comfortable with that you can us washes to create shades and lighter colours to create highlights.