So let's talk about "Pure Sabaac" the tie striker pilot who gets an extra die on the attack as long as he has less than 2 damage on him.
Now, I'm planning to pair him with Snap Shot and Lightweight Frame, but the question is: Do I skip on Adaptive Ailerons? The idea being that if you don't use the title, the tie striker is suddenly a slow ship that I think I can better maneuver and set up tighter Snap Shots and shots that I couldn't with a forced boost every turn.
Pure Snapshot
Snapshot isnt that great on Strikers as they are really bad at the whole range1 thing, you'd be better off with Mauler Mithel if you want a 3die Snapshot (cheaper, 3agi, better at close furball maneuvers).
Strikers, Sabaac specifically, draw a lot of attention since theyre a cheap and have enough firepower to justify dealing with them first. Sabaac doesnt want range1, he wants to sit on the side and abuse his wicked turning to outmaneuver people. LF isnt as great as you may think it is, ive actually started experimenting without using it at all and just going modless since its easy to not even get its benefit with the way strikers fly (obstructed, range3).
1 hour ago, Vineheart01 said:Snapshot isnt that great on Strikers as they are really bad at the whole range1 thing, you'd be better off with Mauler Mithel if you want a 3die Snapshot (cheaper, 3agi, better at close furball maneuvers).
Strikers, Sabaac specifically, draw a lot of attention since theyre a cheap and have enough firepower to justify dealing with them first. Sabaac doesnt want range1, he wants to sit on the side and abuse his wicked turning to outmaneuver people. LF isnt as great as you may think it is, ive actually started experimenting without using it at all and just going modless since its easy to not even get its benefit with the way strikers fly (obstructed, range3).
I'm flying strikers without LF as well for the same reason. The dice are going to fail me so let's focus on attack. I hadn't figured out the range thing though, good tip!
1 hour ago, Vineheart01 said:Snapshot isnt that great on Strikers as they are really bad at the whole range1 thing, you'd be better off with Mauler Mithel if you want a 3die Snapshot (cheaper, 3agi, better at close furball maneuvers).
Strikers, Sabaac specifically, draw a lot of attention since theyre a cheap and have enough firepower to justify dealing with them first. Sabaac doesnt want range1, he wants to sit on the side and abuse his wicked turning to outmaneuver people. LF isnt as great as you may think it is, ive actually started experimenting without using it at all and just going modless since its easy to not even get its benefit with the way strikers fly (obstructed, range3).
Well, the list already has Mauler.
Without AA you show up to the furball a turn late, so people already have target priority. If not, then the rest of the list will gladly take its free shots as the opponent tries to go for priority one. Which is why it will need LF though because I'll be flying in close to try and get snaps.
I think juke is the best because while you can't modify your own dice being able to knock out any evades rolled by your opponent works just as well. So Green Squadron test pilots are going to be your go to for snap shot. Don't forget your chardaan refits
Edited by Marinealverjuke/snapshot take the same slot. Only Awings can juke with snapshots
1 minute ago, Vineheart01 said:juke/snapshot take the same slot. Only Awings can juke with snapshots
Green Squadron are A wings.
8 hours ago, Marinealver said:I think juke is the best because while you can't modify your own dice being able to knock out any evades rolled by your opponent works just as well. So Green Squadron test pilots are going to be your go to for snap shot. Don't forget your chardaan refits
You can also add an ARC with Weapons Engineer and M9-G8 to the list to be able to reroll a die on all 4 A-Wing attacks. You can round the list off with anything you like but Biggs fits in perfectly.
Edited by darthlurkertypos
So Palp would work as well in an Imp list, right? It's the old 'get around the Omega Leader' thing again.
That said: I just started building an Imp Snap Shot list with Palp Shuttle, then it turned into an Imp Snap Shot list with Upsilon and Operations Specialist, then it turned into A-Wings with Operations Specialist on a supporting TIE Fighter.
:-/
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Sabine Wren - Snap Shot, Sabine's TIE, Operations Specialist
- Ahsoka Tano - Snap Shot
Snap Shot and Operations Specialist seems a pretty good combo. Works with Ahsoka as well.
Edit: And with 3 As and two TIEs you get to call the list 'AHAHA', which is nice.
1 hour ago, Stay On The Leader said:That said: I just started building an Imp Snap Shot list with Palp Shuttle, then it turned into an Imp Snap Shot list with Upsilon and Operations Specialist, then it turned into A-Wings with Operations Specialist on a supporting TIE Fighter.
:-/
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Sabine Wren - Snap Shot, Sabine's TIE, Operations Specialist
- Ahsoka Tano - Snap Shot
Snap Shot and Operations Specialist seems a pretty good combo. Works with Ahsoka as well.
Edit: And with 3 As and two TIEs you get to call the list 'AHAHA', which is nice.
Now you're making it look like I am netlisting!
2 minutes ago, Verlaine said:Now you're making it look like I am netlisting!
3 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:
Probably, yes. Or morphogenetic resonance, I don't know. I was thinking about an AAAAH!!! variant though, and I must say economy did have something to do with it - ending up with 4 snap shot cards made me think about other TIE builds of 20 points. Sabine on Crack or Sabine on Stim, enjoying the good stuff with an Operations Specialist....
Sabine's TIE is a really versatile little ship even if you can't afford much, and I am going to try different things.
I put operations specialist in it too.
It's Mauler + Snap
Rhymer + snap, shuttle, tactician, TIE mk II
Sabaac, snap, light weight frame
Omg Lambda, Operations specialist (to block and set up)
2 hours ago, Verlaine said:Probably, yes. Or morphogenetic resonance, I don't know. I was thinking about an AAAAH!!! variant though, and I must say economy did have something to do with it - ending up with 4 snap shot cards made me think about other TIE builds of 20 points. Sabine on Crack or Sabine on Stim, enjoying the good stuff with an Operations Specialist....
Sabine's TIE is a really versatile little ship even if you can't afford much, and I am going to try different things.
I've already been flying AAAAH variants... Though mine was Protos, Proton Rockets, Guidance Chip with Ahsoka, captured TIE, VI... and something... *shrug* Bit of a troll list.
4 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:That said: I just started building an Imp Snap Shot list with Palp Shuttle, then it turned into an Imp Snap Shot list with Upsilon and Operations Specialist, then it turned into A-Wings with Operations Specialist on a supporting TIE Fighter.
:-/
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Green Squadron - Snap Shot, Crack Shot, Chardaan, Test Pilot (20)
- Sabine Wren - Snap Shot, Sabine's TIE, Operations Specialist
- Ahsoka Tano - Snap Shot
Snap Shot and Operations Specialist seems a pretty good combo. Works with Ahsoka as well.
Edit: And with 3 As and two TIEs you get to call the list 'AHAHA', which is nice.
i never thought about pairing Op Spec with Snapshots. Wow, thats dirty. I just assumed OpSpec was primary weapon given how nutty it is, nope its just attack.
Dodge my unmoddable 2die attack: i WANT you to dodge it!
I don't think it's a mistake the Upsilon has both Ops Specialist and Snap Shot in.
3 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:I don't think it's a mistake the Upsilon has both Ops Specialist and Snap Shot in.
Touche! totally missed that.
Im totally making more snappy lists now. I love that card as it is, 1 pilot with it never does anything but 2 tends to really cause issues. I think a SnapBlack miniswarm with a Tomax Shuttle is impending!
Or a Rhymer Snap Shuttle for those range 2 Snaps?
33 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:
Alan Partridge it is then.
16 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:Or a Rhymer Snap Shuttle for those range 2 Snaps?
Rhymer w/ Snapshot, Hull upgrade, Op Spec, Tactician, and title fits perfectly at 100pts with 4 SnapBlacks lol.
The hull upgrade was the remaining 3pts. I dont think initiative is that important on a list like this, but Rhymer is going to draw a ton of attention so might as well give him +1 hp
My only issue is i have no need for a 2nd UPS and i really dont want a 3rd falcon...so that 5th snapshot eludes me (i have other reasons to get a 2nd hotr box but i REALLY DONT WANT 3 FALCONS)
Edited by Vineheart0122 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:I don't think it's a mistake the Upsilon has both Ops Specialist and Snap Shot in.
And it is probably also a hint that both HOTR and the Upsilon contain 2 Snap Shot cards each. An intended fix for 2 attack dice swarmy ships.
Just now, Verlaine said:And it is probably also a hint that both HOTR and the Upsilon contain 2 Snap Shot cards each. An intended fix for 2 attack dice swarmy ships.
Just a shame it's terrible next to Crack Shot. Your Snap Shot vs 3 green unmodified dice is 0.35 damage, so you need to trigger it three times to get a Crack Shot's value out of it. That is apart from that it costs 2pts not 1pt. And also that you're still not getting a Crack Shot of value because Crack Shots are really only good when all hurled at the same ship at once to kill it, not to chip damage onto 3 different ships over 7 turns.
Depending on the ship, i'd take Snap over Crack any day.
Black TIEs the crack is probably better since they arent that great at swiveling around their target.
Awings on the other hand can still abuse PTL and VTs to get their barrelroll they SHOULD HAVE HAD TO BEGIN WITH *cough* - ive been running PTL + Snap + CharRefit + Title + VT Greenwing pairs for abit now and holy crap they get so many snapshots off its ridiculous.
Strikers i also wouldnt like snapshot on, but ive voiced my reasons for that already.