Just to clarify as I have read arguments for and against the ''Dameron Dash''

Is this a legal move/order of operations using Poe with push the limit and BB8?

Poe reveals a green maneuver - performs a free barrel roll action - receives a stress to PTL and boost or target lock - executes his green maneuver clearing the stress - performs focus action.

I'm sure its old news to many so thank you in advance for your patience.

Yes, that's a legal move.

Totally legal.

Any argument against it is falling down on the golden rule of do what the card says, not what it doesn't.

So long as you start the turn unstressed, your good.

Reveal green >

BB-8 triggers >

Poe performed an action so PTL triggers >

Perform second action and recieve stress >

Perform green manoeuvre >

Check pilot stress and remove stress for green manouver >

Perform action step.. Poe is not stressed so performs post manouver action as normal as nothing in the card combo states do not perform action here.

3 actions per turn and no stress at the end. Totally legitimate.

Just dont finish a turn stressed and keep in mind BB8 Poe is considerably more squishy than regen Poe even if considerably more manouverable.

I really do think that a PTL+BB-8 combo is better on Nora than Poe - not only do the dual arcs mean you can arc dodge an enemy while still getting a shot off, but adding a Tail Gunner means you want your rear arc to be facing them... making it much harder for your opponent to predict your moves and counter your movement.

20 minutes ago, iamfanboy said:

I really do think that a PTL+BB-8 combo is better on Nora than Poe - not only do the dual arcs mean you can arc dodge an enemy while still getting a shot off, but adding a Tail Gunner means you want your rear arc to be facing them... making it much harder for your opponent to predict your moves and counter your movement.

When one chooses to fly Poe Dameron, no justification is needed.

Yes, it is legal

As for the build, it doesnt matter whom you put it on

It is a problem of hprrid points to stats/modinefficiency that forever bars it from being competitive

You could theoretically outfly your opponent CONSTANTLY until a PWT shows up and makes it literally impossible

The regeneration fron r2d2/r5p9 is such a durability skew that it is basically always better in just about every scenario on both poe and norra

Bb8 is hella fun, though

Having to start with a barrel roll always can be a problem though.

6 minutes ago, Verlaine said:

Having to start with a barrel roll always can be a problem though.

Effect is a may, though

With primed allowing brolls when stressed, you become less predictable even if you push without bb8

1 hour ago, ficklegreendice said:

The regeneration fron r2d2/r5p9 is such a durability skew that it is basically always better in just about every scenario on both poe and norra

This is true but you could chose to put Sensor Cluster on Poe which is almost as good as R5-P9 in terms of damage mitigation. Poe will normally shoot first anyway, particularly if you are flying him at PS9.

This is what makes BB8 "Viable" over the normal regen droids. Poe has 3 main builds revolving around 3 different astromechs. R2-D2 allows you to save your focus for sensor cluster, BB 8 allows for crazy moves and action efficiency and R5 P9 doesnt restrict you to green moves. IMO each has merit in its own way. I think it really depends on your list and your preferred flying style.

3 hours ago, Karhedron said:

This is true but you could chose to put Sensor Cluster on Poe which is almost as good as R5-P9 in terms of damage mitigation. Poe will normally shoot first anyway, particularly if you are flying him at PS9.

not even close to the same damage mitigation if you're able to peel off, which is especially relevant in a late game scenario

Well, Kylo Ren crew card will eliminate Poe for good from X-Wing, in fact any other X-Wing, with the exception of Biggs.

2 agaility will mean death when faced against Kylo Ren and his crippling set of pilot crits. And Poe with Determination will hit like an overcooked pasta - so I don't see him as viable pick.

BB8 push is fun on Wedge too.

7 hours ago, Embir82 said:

Well, Kylo Ren crew card will eliminate Poe for good from X-Wing, in fact any other X-Wing, with the exception of Biggs.

2 agaility will mean death when faced against Kylo Ren and his crippling set of pilot crits. And Poe with Determination will hit like an overcooked pasta - so I don't see him as viable pick.

cant hit poe if he has to hit biggs

note Biggs would not have had to be a necessary evil if we, the players, could actually do anything about hotshot/kylo on a literally unavoidable PWT

Can't hit Poe that reliably anyway with Autothrusters, Sensor Cluster and his ability. When your default roll on a critical defence is 2 evades, you have to do work to get that damage through.

3 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

cant hit poe if he has to hit biggs

note Biggs would not have had to be a necessary evil if we, the players, could actually do anything about hotshot/kylo on a literally unavoidable PWT

If I have a Biggs in my roster then I might as well instead of Poe put Miranda with Homing Missiles and TLT into the list, or Norra for that matter. Both ladies do what Poe does, only better.

I don't disagree

but that doesn't make my statement any less true