Z-95 Revamp

By Gosric, in X-Wing Painting and Modification

3 minutes ago, Joe Boss Red Seven said:

Never get cool little models like these in horrid WSF... YIPES!

Pay the extra few bucks to get FUD; The GOOD STUFF.

I thought I'd seen comments that FUD tended to be more brittle than WSF, so wasn't sure how suited it was to interchangeable pieces...

...also, I only ever buy when there's a "free-shipping" deal on, as the international P&P is usually a significant proportion of the cost :(

Just now, ianmiddy said:

I thought I'd seen comments that FUD tended to be more brittle than WSF, so wasn't sure how suited it was to interchangeable pieces...

...also, I only ever buy when there's a "free-shipping" deal on, as the international P&P is usually a significant proportion of the cost :(

They are as good as regular FFG guns, just be careful with them and they are going to be fine.

Definitely avoid WSF... FED is good. Slightly more expensive but a step up from even FUD (better resolution and sligtly sturdier).They have a black high definition acrylate material as well that looks promising ad is slightly cheaper than FUD but i havent ordered anything in it yet. will do so next payday (I make the same tiny markup no matter what ,so not trying to pressure anyone *L*)

So were i to do these do you need mounts for the guns? because that is where it gets awkward depending on where you want then the base plate would have to have a curve or bend or simbly be flat. i have the FFG CR90 so can reference it but for any scratch build ships under construction that wouldnt work. Not without angles and measurements anyway. I will have the fighter weapons in a pack by the end of the day along with an unarmed Z95 compatible with them. im getting turrets together as well but that will be a couple of days

Edited by Gosric

Joe.....

....that's a HISS mark IV isn't it?

2 hours ago, Gosric said:

So were i to do these do you need mounts for the guns? because that is where it gets awkward depending on where you want then the base plate would have to have a curve or bend or simbly be flat. i have the FFG CR90 so can reference it but for any scratch build ships under construction that wouldnt work. Not without angles and measurements anyway. I will have the fighter weapons in a pack by the end of the day along with an unarmed Z95 compatible with them. im getting turrets together as well but that will be a couple of days

Not sure what Joe's looking for with these, but most of the turrets and missile pods I've made recently for 3d-print freighters and small Epics would mount on perhaps a 10mm diameter circular mount, perhaps 1-2mm deep - that seems about the right size to, say, replace the VCX100, YT1300 & Gozanti top/bottom turrets - the CR90 main guns are larger, but again not sure if Joe is looking to replace those or more concerned with point-defence weaponry :unsure:

...only other thing would maybe add a 3mm diameter by 1mm deep circular recess to take a Neo magnet for positionable mounting...or maybe 2mm deep so that there's no need to recess the body-magnet

I'd think that if the mount point isn't flat [I did a turret mount for atop the add-on fourth engine on the Hammerhead] then the builder will probably be able to produce a shoulder to provide a flat area...:huh:

3 hours ago, juxstapo said:

Joe.....

....that's a HISS mark IV isn't it?

NOPE...

:lol:

5 hours ago, Gosric said:

Definitely avoid WSF... FED is good. Slightly more expensive but a step up from even FUD (better resolution and sligtly sturdier).They have a black high definition acrylate material as well that looks promising ad is slightly cheaper than FUD but i havent ordered anything in it yet. will do so next payday (I make the same tiny markup no matter what ,so not trying to pressure anyone *L*)

So were i to do these do you need mounts for the guns? because that is where it gets awkward depending on where you want then the base plate would have to have a curve or bend or simbly be flat. i have the FFG CR90 so can reference it but for any scratch build ships under construction that wouldnt work. Not without angles and measurements anyway. I will have the fighter weapons in a pack by the end of the day along with an unarmed Z95 compatible with them. im getting turrets together as well but that will be a couple of days

Maybe do a matching ring to hide the magnets in, under each gun wheel. I say keep them flat because we can always add a ball of plastic on our own.

Right gang?

Check into that new black stuff too.

:D

I will let you know with pics how it looks when it arrives meantime FUD and FED are the way to go. ill gte going on the turrets

These ate the ones i have ready to go with minimal work. the bases are in the 10 to 12 millimetre range with a 1mm deep socket.

Any suited? If there is any particular style of gun or missile system you are looking for let me know

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Edited by Gosric

Love the Quad & Ball turrets, and the large mag missile launcher...the twin and small mag are nice, but maybe a bit too "sensible" for Star Wars... but that's just me, will be interested to see what others think.

...but, as I said above, I only tend to buy from Shapeways maybe once or twice a year, so I guess you really need to see if there's a decent market for these - I've never looked into it, but are you charged for having x models available ? If not, and it doesn't cost to have more up, then I guess you could almost have a whole new 'sub-store' ;)

Also, I've noticed that there are a [very] few sellers who make their designs available for download on there [not sure of the charging method, as the main D&D one I've used is 'free'] - I appreciate that may not be a popular idea since others can 'steal' your work for their own gain, but would you ever consider it for things like these accessories [as opposed to complete ships] ? FDM wouldn't be much good for the guns, but the missile turrets might work ok...:unsure:

[EDIT: ...and home SLA printers are getting cheaper - seen someone on Facebook SW sales group selling stuff that is supposed to be as good as the high-def-acrylate you mentioned]

Cheers

Edited by ianmiddy
Home SLA printers

I can have any number available. Shapeways makes their money by charging for materials and their own mark up when an item sells. So there is no reason i cant have any number of sets or ships up. As fir making the 3d files I might consider it. But i have had friends who have done that only to see their own designs posted later. and i know of a couple of people who upload other designers work as their own so i dont think id make a habit of it but might do so in some cases. Not saying you would of course, but just from experience.

There are a couple of things i that i am thinking of making freely available that seem past their sell by date like my turbolaser towers. And some that are simply too expensive to sell due to shapeways base costs such as a couple of epic ships so i wouldnt be selling them anyway. When i build i do it more for the love of it than the profit *L* if i sell a fighter for say 15 bucks i make about 2 dollars so am not likely to get rich. I was thinking of making one with two of the smaller missile launchers mounted in a swivelwhich might not look bad. and a couple of single barrel heavy cannon as well. Missiles are a bit odd in Star Wars since we never really got to see them until the prequels. But they should exist in forms other than internal mounts

2 hours ago, Gosric said:

These ate the ones i have ready to go with minimal work. the bases are in the 10 to 12 millimetre range with a 1mm deep socket.

Any suited? If there is any particular style of gun or missile system you are looking for let me know

turrets_zpslk9jjimu.jpg

Ok. Next question before i convert them to uploadable files. How many of each type in a set? should i do missiles in one and guns in another? One of each turret or 2, or 3. Suggestions?

2 hours ago, Gosric said:

These ate the ones i have ready to go with minimal work. the bases are in the 10 to 12 millimetre range with a 1mm deep socket.

Any suited? If there is any particular style of gun or missile system you are looking for let me know

turrets_zpslk9jjimu.jpg

I am all over these. I can see mounting the tri-guns onto the quad turret mount too. So keep all of these cannon sets separate from all of the turret mounts. The missile boxes are fine kept on their turrets.

How is that gang?

:)

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sure. ill set it going tomorrow

10 minutes ago, Gosric said:

Ok. Next question before i convert them to uploadable files. How many of each type in a set? should i do missiles in one and guns in another? One of each turret or 2, or 3. Suggestions?

I would like the Missile & Torp goodies in a set, as pairs= 6 pieces. I would like to be able to buy sets of five of the wonderful Torps too= 10 pieces.

For the cannons do one of each with their own turret mounts separate= 8 pieces.

Based on the group picture I just posted above.

:D

Edited by Joe Boss Red Seven

ok. give me a bit of time to sort it out and ll put them on shapeways

1 hour ago, Gosric said:

...have had friends who have done that only to see their own designs posted later. and i know of a couple of people who upload other designers work as their own so i dont think id make a habit of it but might do so in some cases. Not saying you would of course, but just from experience.

Can fully understand this...I've had people asking for copies of some of the STL's I've downloaded and then maybe converted and changed [such as the Hammerhead], but was never willing to provide them until I'd tracked down the original designers so I could credit them, and ask that if anything 'went forward' that they continue to be credited...

Quite happy to go with Joe's suggestions above...will say again that I really like that ball turret design, and can see it as a great replacement for the more 'ship'-like turrets I've been using up until now ;)

2 minutes ago, ianmiddy said:

Can fully understand this...I've had people asking for copies of some of the STL's I've downloaded and then maybe converted and changed [such as the Hammerhead], but was never willing to provide them until I'd tracked down the original designers so I could credit them, and ask that if anything 'went forward' that they continue to be credited...

Quite happy to go with Joe's suggestions above...will say again that I really like that ball turret design, and can see it as a great replacement for the more 'ship'-like turrets I've been using up until now ;)

:)

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Going to probably be tomorrow rather than today looking at the bases i needed to mod them slightly since the base and the gun were made to be a single item. but it wont take long the base is pretty simple and i can make the magnet socket a but deeper this way. I like the ball turret. Ive always like the look of them and so when i designed the Corvan techaesthetic i made much of the weaponry etc to be manually operated because of the in storms in Corvus upper atmosphere and its potential problem causing effect.

Ok. Bases done. All 10mm wide approximately. With 2mm deep by 3mm wide magnet socket. All mounts compatible with all separate guns. Here is a multi view to check scale etc. the Z-95 wing guns might be too small for heavy ship weapons, or perhaps not considering the differing scales. let me know of any changes you want and ill sprt them into the sets,

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2 hours ago, Gosric said:

Ok. Bases done. All 10mm wide approximately. With 2mm deep by 3mm wide magnet socket. All mounts compatible with all separate guns. Here is a multi view to check scale etc. the Z-95 wing guns might be too small for heavy ship weapons, or perhaps not considering the differing scales. let me know of any changes you want and ill sprt them into the sets,

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I am fine with Turrets being a single collection with one of everything in it.

Missiles sets as pairs with two of all designs.

Torps should be in paired sets of five so that you can arm five ships with racks for each wing.

:lol:

And what about size relative to each other keeping in mind the bases are 10 to 12 mm as a reference

18 minutes ago, Gosric said:

And what about size relative to each other keeping in mind the bases are 10 to 12 mm as a reference

Well based on how impressive the tri cannons look on your NEW Zed, I think you have it good now. The torps and such look about right for a K-WING too, if I am interpreting your images correctly. The turrets are also about the size of a Defender, so they will look impressive too on smaller ships.

Also I am keen to see your pictures of the new black stuff.

:)