23 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

That would suck, unless it was agreed-upon in advance by everyone involved.

But once the campaign ends, they're not PC's any more and no longer have any special immunity from the Emperor or Vader sensing them from half-way across the galaxy and showing up with a Stormtrooper Legion. Can your Jedi beat Vader? Can your PC beat Vader backed up by 1,000 Storm-Troopers? Can your PC beat the Emperor backed up by 1,000,000 Storm Troopers? They're a Galactic Empire - the living embodiment of "We Have Reserves" http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WeHaveReserves

If you feel you have to justify it with something so unlike the movies, you should ask yourself why that is the case.

On 2/18/2017 at 1:20 PM, Stan Fresh said:

If you feel you have to justify it with something so unlike the movies, you should ask yourself why that is the case.

You mean like how Vader felt a Force user in Episode 4 and hunted him down, and dueled him, and struck him down and his apprentice barely got away? And how there were a bunch of Stormtroopers involved too? You mean like how the Emperor rescued Anakin in Episode 3 after he was maimed? You don't think that if someone killed Vader the Emperor wouldn't hunt them down and recruit or kill them? - Right - "nothing like" the movies....

7 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:

You mean like how Vader felt a Force user in Episode 4 and hunted him down, and dueled him, and struck him down and his apprentice barely got away? And how there were a bunch of Stormtroopers involved too? You mean like how the Emperor rescued Anakin in Episode 3 after he was maimed? You don't think that if someone killed Vader the Emperor wouldn't hunt them down and recruit or kill them? - Right - "nothing like" the movies....

In both cases the two Force-users had a special connection (parental, and master/apprentice), and in neither case the heroes had to confront a million stormtroopers. Also, if the Emperor can just sense the PCs from halfway across the galaxy, why didn't he sense Obi-Wan, Luke, or Yoda after the events of episode 3? Why did the clones have to hunt for Yoda after his duel with Palpatine, instead of Palpatine just sensing his location?

What you describe is not like the movies.

7 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

In both cases the two Force-users had a special connection (parental, and master/apprentice), and in neither case the heroes had to confront a million stormtroopers. Also, if the Emperor can just sense the PCs from halfway across the galaxy, why didn't he sense Obi-Wan, Luke, or Yoda after the events of episode 3? Why did the clones have to hunt for Yoda after his duel with Palpatine, instead of Palpatine just sensing his location?

What you describe is not like the movies.

Because they, in theory, stopped doing Jedi-esque, Forcey things, and thus weren't causing ripples. And the Emperor DID sense them, in Empire. Our first introduction to him is him saying "There is a disturbance in the Force". Meaning he was feeling someone, half way across the galaxy, and it got his attention. And what did he do? He sent his attack dog after them.

For the time between Ep 3 and 5, it's entirely plausible to just assume that Yoda and Obi didn't ever tap into the Force. They just stayed under the radar, and didn't do anything to avoid Palp's attention. Then, once things started moving again, Luke going out into the galaxy, trying to use his abilities, etc, the ripples started again.

13 minutes ago, KungFuFerret said:

Because they, in theory, stopped doing Jedi-esque, Forcey things, and thus weren't causing ripples. And the Emperor DID sense them, in Empire. Our first introduction to him is him saying "There is a disturbance in the Force". Meaning he was feeling someone, half way across the galaxy, and it got his attention. And what did he do? He sent his attack dog after them.

For the time between Ep 3 and 5, it's entirely plausible to just assume that Yoda and Obi didn't ever tap into the Force. They just stayed under the radar, and didn't do anything to avoid Palp's attention. Then, once things started moving again, Luke going out into the galaxy, trying to use his abilities, etc, the ripples started again.

Yoda also used the Dark Side energies from cave on Degobah to mask his presence from the Emperor.

Yeah, that too. I remember somebody putting up that explanation.

1 hour ago, KungFuFerret said:

Because they, in theory, stopped doing Jedi-esque, Forcey things, and thus weren't causing ripples. And the Emperor DID sense them, in Empire. Our first introduction to him is him saying "There is a disturbance in the Force". Meaning he was feeling someone, half way across the galaxy, and it got his attention. And what did he do? He sent his attack dog after them.

For the time between Ep 3 and 5, it's entirely plausible to just assume that Yoda and Obi didn't ever tap into the Force.

Episode 3 ends with Yoda telling Obi-Wan that he has training for him while he's on Tatooine. That doesn't square with foregoing the Force and Jedi stuff.

21 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

Episode 3 ends with Yoda telling Obi-Wan that he has training for him while he's on Tatooine. That doesn't square with foregoing the Force and Jedi stuff.

The training was for the "become one with the Force" method, which seems less of a directed use of the Force and more of a state of mind. I doubt simple meditation would work to put up a flag for someone to find.

Considering it's about turning into a ghost, I'd say it's a bit more than that.