This theory Just occurred to me. Nothing groundbreaking as to how it starts:
How about even taking this theory even crazier:
5.5. Snoke created Rey as a sleeper agent to assassinate Luke
My wacky Snoke theory:
Supreme Leader Snoke is
Supreme Leader Snoke
Why?
I'd rather he was a mysterious figure who has been watching and waiting. Not Plagueis, Ezra, Grand Inquisitor, Darth Vader's secret apprentice or Made Windu gone bad. Just plain and simple, he is someone new
My guess is its Gallius Rex.
Sorry to be the one that breaks this to you, but other than 5.5 this is pretty much exactly the same theory that anyone who thought Snoke may be Plageuis came up with / agreed on over a year ago.
P.S. I do like the Rey sleeper agent part. But I'm a fan of plot twists.
Snoke is the Master getting tired of a dimension which has the Doctor in it
19 minutes ago, Iceeagle85 said:Snoke is the Master getting tired of a dimension which has the Doctor in it
Are you sure he's not Cobra Commander?
2 hours ago, Eye of Thokem said:Are you sure he's not Cobra Commander?
Would that imply Rey's parents are Destro and the Baroness?
11 minutes ago, Iceeagle85 said:Would that imply Rey's parents are Destro and the Baroness?
Light Bulb!
I think we've solved it!
5 hours ago, Eye of Thokem said:P.S. I do like the Rey sleeper agent part. But I'm a fan of plot twists.
Rey's a Cylon.
Guys, you're all wrong.
Rey's parents are Thundarr and Sheila. And Rey had a Battlecat until it wandered off into the Jaaku desert, lol.
JJ Abrahms directed Episode 7, so maybe Snokes is Khan! Would explain why R2 was in the last Star Trek. Boy wouldn't that make fans angry!
6 hours ago, Felswrath said:JJ Abrahms directed Episode 7, so maybe Snokes is Khan! Would explain why R2 was in the last Star Trek. Boy wouldn't that make fans angry!
May I say: " KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!"
Maybe Snoke is a bad clone of Palpatine, taking a page from the old EU.
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6 can't be right. If Rey was at the Jedi Academy she wouldn't have been shocked to find out Luke and the Force weren't just Myth.
Unless they wiped her memory - but she still remember her family so it would have to end up being some type of Wolverine Origin Story - where she has multiple false memories all implanted.
Also, Snoke is Mace Windu.
But it's also cool if Snoke is just a dark figure from the outer reaches.
Snoke is Dak. He's still just pissed at Luke for leaving him on Hoth.
5 minutes ago, TopHatGorilla said:Snoke is Dak. He's still just pissed at Luke for leaving him on Hoth.
Well he did want to take on the whole Empire himself
I still believe Snoke is an ancient entity that was stored in stasis on Jakku for a long time and then discovered by the Emperor. He, knowing that his cause (a stable dark side dominance over the galaxy) is more important than his person, kept Snoke as a backup plan in case of his death. Of course he had to be kept that way as to not be a rival who would endanger stability.
Aftermath: Life Debt spoilers on that:
The next Aftermath book will reveal if I am right. At the end of the last one the imperial remnant occupied Jakkus orbit to retrieve something (that had been guarded by the empire for a long time). I believe that this is Snoke and with him to replace the Emperor the remnant will vanish to reform as First Order in the unknown regions.
Snoke is the PHANTOM MENACE.
Point 1: Rey couldn't have been at the Jedi Massacre.
The Jedi Massacre by the Knights of Ren might have happened when Rey was 5 years old. Or maybe 10 years later, after the events of Bloodline. If the massacre did happen when Rey was 5, maybe Luke, Ben and Rey all fled, which means Luke and Ben had been on the run for over a decade.
But Rey being part of the New Jedi Academy or escaping the massacre is only a sidebar to the theory.
The primary part is Snoke crated Anakin. And Snoke created Rey.
Maybe Rey was created with material from Vader's bacta tank. Or from Luke's hand. Or just from straight up midichlorians. It doesn't matter.
Point 2: Midichlorians
Midichlorians were a silly, unnecessary device to move the story along. But it's notoriety makes it a well-recognized aspect of the universe. It can be less of a throwaway, mistake of a device, if the storytellers used it again. Like Qui-gon, they could repeat the same logic with Anakin. Imagine Luke talking to the New Jedi Academy Admissions office (in same whiny voice as Tosche Station): "I know she's a total stranger that possibly could have an Order 66 chip embedded in her head, but look at the midichlroian count on this 4-year old girl that magically showed up on our front door steps. Come on, guys"
Point 3: Snoke not Sith
Darth Maul, as currently known, is not a Sith
19 hours ago, patox said:Point 1: Rey couldn't have been at the Jedi Massacre.
The Jedi Massacre by the Knights of Ren might have happened when Rey was 5 years old. Or maybe 10 years later, after the events of Bloodline. If the massacre did happen when Rey was 5, maybe Luke, Ben and Rey all fled, which means Luke and Ben had been on the run for over a decade.
Kylo Ren destroyed Luke's Jedi, so he can't have been on the run with Luke for over a decade. Bloodline also shows that there was still regular contact between him and his parents.
QuoteThe primary part is Snoke crated Anakin.
Only if you accept the premise that Plagueis is Snoke. And the premise that Plagueis was responsible for creating Anakin, which is also not canon.
QuoteMidichlorians
Midichlorians were a silly, unnecessary device to move the story along. But it's notoriety makes it a well-recognized aspect of the universe. It can be less of a throwaway, mistake of a device, if the storytellers used it again. Like Qui-gon, they could repeat the same logic with Anakin. Imagine Luke talking to the New Jedi Academy Admissions office (in same whiny voice as Tosche Station): "I know she's a total stranger that possibly could have an Order 66 chip embedded in her head, but look at the midichlroian count on this 4-year old girl that magically showed up on our front door steps. Come on, guys"
First off, there was no academy, not formally. It was just Luke, training Force sensitives.
It is also a very, very convoluted way of creating a backstory when the easier way would be anything else (my personal theory being her being aboard the Falcon when it was stolen from her father).
QuotePoint 3: Snoke not Sith
Darth Maul, as currently known, is not a Sith
Only because he left.