After a poor showing in a tourney I came to sad reality. Although I love list building, I don't have what it takes. My lists are fun but aren't the bet. Plus with my lack of practice time, it is hard to fine tune a non-meta list. So with that being said I have one more list (or two) I would like to bounce of the forum. Give it a look and make suggestions. If it is utter hopeless I will know my place and just practice tried and true lists. And trust me, I am not one of those anti net-list people. Those lists are copied for a reason, they are good. Plus I just look at all those regionals as friends playtesting for me. So here were go:

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Elusiveness (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Autothrusters (2)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3 Astromech (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Tarn Mison (23)
R7 Astromech (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

and

Poe Dameron (31)
Elusiveness (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Autothrusters (2)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3 Astromech (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Blue Squadron Pathfinder (23)
Fire-Control System (2)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
Hera Syndulla (1)
Pivot Wing (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

As you can see I want to try and make the StressMule work. I know Defenders don't necessarily care about it, but that token can still be missed if denied. Also I like the tanky Poe build. My theory is that the only ships that do consistent damage are the ones still on the table.

Thoughts?

First I have to say I like the second squad better, but if tarn were Biggs in the First squad I may like it better.

So it's R3-A2 on the Arc right? The standard stress mule all is well there. Elusiveness is... Less than desireable. If you have the stress bot then you've picked up a rebel transport right? If so R5-P9 on Poe works better in my experience than R2-D2, and of you take R5 then Poe can pick up either push the limit or predator, both of which do a lot more a lot more often than elusiveness. After that you can drop the Inspiring recruit from the u-wing and upgrade it to Heff Tober. I like Heff better than a generic especially at 1 point more.

Good luck with the squad, should be fun. All 3 ships in it seem pretty good. I should mention my thoughts on the u-wing are only theory, I haven't personally played against one yet.

Your Poe relies entirely on defensive upgrades in a game inherently based on offense. Regen typically relies on dying slower instead of killing faster, but I think you took it too far. The other key to the attrition strategy is hit points. Six isn't really enough, which (and I'm eating crow here) is the role Biggs fills. I hate Biggs, but if you're going to play the Rebel attrition game (more crow) Biggs is your man.

The U-wing is a great ship, and Inspiring Recruit is a great choice with a Stressbot ship.

Tarn is a lot of fun. Sometimes he's even good. He's a great little cockroach in lists where the rest of the squad already does the heavy lifting. Therein lies the problem: list number 1 doesn't do any heavy lifting.

I don't know, with Hotshot Copilot flying around these days, I can see why he'd want to skip R5-P9. And if he's doing greens for R2-D2 anyway, Elusiveness doesn't hamper Poe all that much. I mean, yeah, it's generally accepted as a poor card, but I can see where he's coming from.

On the other hand, if you're that worried about Hotshot Copilot, maybe you should pick an ace with a different ability altogether.

Token stripping is a valid concern for Poe. It's his hard counter. Every ace has one. Pick your poison.

Poe Dameron (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
R2-D2 (4)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Autothrusters (2)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3 Astromech (2)
Vectored Thrusters (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Tarn Mison (23)
M9-G8 (3)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

I think you'll be better off with PS10 Poe than you'd be with PS9 Poe with Elusiveness and that frees up a few points to sprinkle around your list. Vectored Thrusters is going to make it easier for Braylen to put his arc where you need it.

I like M9-G8 better on Tarn that I do R7. R7 Tarn doesn't do much for you until your opponent starts attacking him. With M9-G8 He can provide Poe with a reroll on offense with a target lock that he takes on round one. After the engagement begins, Tarn can shift the target lock to an enemy ship to give his squadmates a little defensive boost.

M9-G8 isn't limited to a single use per round. This works nicely with Tarn's ability, allowing him to force a reroll on every attack made against him. It also works nicely with Braylen's loadout. If you lock Braylen instead of Poe, Braylen can assign a stress with his first attack (if using the front arc, don't trigger the title so that you only roll two dice) and use Tarn's reroll to reroll a hit or crit into a miss or focus result, this increases the chance that the attack wll miss allowing you to trigger Gunner to deal a second stress. For the second shot use the title for all the dice and the reroll granted by Tarn to try to push through a hit.

10 minutes ago, WWHSD said:

I think you'll be better off with PS10 Poe than you'd be with PS9 Poe with Elusiveness and that frees up a few points to sprinkle around your list. Vectored Thrusters is going to make it easier for Braylen to put his arc where you need it.

I like M9-G8 better on Tarn that I do R7. R7 Tarn doesn't do much for you until your opponent starts attacking him. With M9-G8 He can provide Poe with a reroll on offense with a target lock that he takes on round one. After the engagement begins, Tarn can shift the target lock to an enemy ship to give his squadmates a little defensive boost.

M9-G8 isn't limited to a single use per round. This works nicely with Tarn's ability, allowing him to force a reroll on every attack made against him. It also works nicely with Braylen's loadout. If you lock Braylen instead of Poe, Braylen can assign a stress with his first attack (if using the front arc, don't trigger the title so that you only roll two dice) and use Tarn's reroll to reroll a hit or crit into a miss or focus result, this increases the chance that the attack wll miss allowing you to trigger Gunner to deal a second stress. For the second shot use the title for all the dice and the reroll granted by Tarn to try to push through a hit.

I agree with everything except the bit about Vectored Thrusters. Unless you're either conservative with R3-A2 or lucky with Braylen's 50-50 ability, Braylen will be too stressed to Barrel Roll.

Really digging the inputs, thanks guys. Here is my roll up of the best advice that I think keeps the list what it was intended:

(98)

Braylen Stramm (32) - ARC-170
Gunner (5), R3-A2 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0)

Poe Dameron (40) - T-70 X-Wing
Veteran Instincts (1), R2-D2 (4), Sensor Cluster (2), Autothrusters (2)

Tarn Mison (26) - X-Wing
M9-G8 (3), Integrated Astromech (0)

this leaves two points. Some suggestions:

Poe to PS11

Push the Limit on Poe

Vectored Thrusters in Braylen ( but prob only good early on for that firat shot)

Title on Poe

Initiative build

15 hours ago, Rolotamasi said:

After a poor showing in a tourney I came to sad reality. Although I love list building, I don't have what it takes. My lists are fun but aren't the bet. Plus with my lack of practice time, it is hard to fine tune a non-meta list. So with that being said I have one more list (or two) I would like to bounce of the forum. Give it a look and make suggestions. If it is utter hopeless I will know my place and just practice tried and true lists. And trust me, I am not one of those anti net-list people. Those lists are copied for a reason, they are good. Plus I just look at all those regionals as friends playtesting for me. So here were go:

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Elusiveness (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Autothrusters (2)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3 Astromech (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Tarn Mison (23)
R7 Astromech (2)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

and

Poe Dameron (31)
Elusiveness (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Sensor Cluster (2)
Autothrusters (2)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3 Astromech (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Blue Squadron Pathfinder (23)
Fire-Control System (2)
Inspiring Recruit (1)
Hera Syndulla (1)
Pivot Wing (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

As you can see I want to try and make the StressMule work. I know Defenders don't necessarily care about it, but that token can still be missed if denied. Also I like the tanky Poe build. My theory is that the only ships that do consistent damage are the ones still on the table.

Thoughts?

I get what you mean about trying new and interesting lists and coming up short in tournaments. I've been looking into what lists are good and which out of them I would want to run before thinking stuff it, i'll just run some a-wings.

It's unlikely I'll be able to run a 'netlist' better than most of the other people there and they will know how to counter it but if your list is unique you may sneak a couple of wins just because people don't really know how to counter it.

Just think what list you would enjoy flying most and follow your heart

6 hours ago, Rolotamasi said:

Really digging the inputs, thanks guys. Here is my roll up of the best advice that I think keeps the list what it was intended:

(98)

Braylen Stramm (32) - ARC-170
Gunner (5), R3-A2 (2), Alliance Overhaul (0)

Poe Dameron (40) - T-70 X-Wing
Veteran Instincts (1), R2-D2 (4), Sensor Cluster (2), Autothrusters (2)

Tarn Mison (26) - X-Wing
M9-G8 (3), Integrated Astromech (0)

this leaves two points. Some suggestions:

Poe to PS11

Push the Limit on Poe

Vectored Thrusters in Braylen ( but prob only good early on for that firat shot)

Title on Poe

Initiative build

If you were to go with PtL on Poe, then you'd want to replace Sensor Cluster with Pattern Analyzer. That removes some of his tankiness, though. With a PtL/PA Poe, you can treat him sort of like an A-wing for engagements...get your one shot, then get out. A 3-forward, which will regen a shield, followed by a forward Boost is the same as a 5 forward, then you'd get your second action and come out stress free. Plus you could end up boosting left or right for even better positioning.

good list inputs! These will hold their own. Unless you want to run an anti-meta list like this one.

Biggs Darklighter (25)
R4-D6 (1)
Integrated Astromech (0)

Braylen Stramm (25)
Gunner (5)
R3-A2 (2)
Alliance Overhaul (0)

Ten Numb (31)
Veteran Instincts (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Ion Cannon (3)
Bistan (2)
B-Wing/E2 (1)

Total: 98

Trying to keep it pretty close to your first list, I personally would fly this instead. I love the idea of pattern analyzer on poe, it really can open up those red moves, and with lone wolf you are ridiculously tanky. Then you have the stress mule and tarn with m9-g8, neither of which your opponent will want to leave for last. THe other option would be to replace tarn with biggs+r4d6 for the same price.

38 minutes ago, Toph said:

Trying to keep it pretty close to your first list, I personally would fly this instead. I love the idea of pattern analyzer on poe, it really can open up those red moves, and with lone wolf you are ridiculously tanky. Then you have the stress mule and tarn with m9-g8, neither of which your opponent will want to leave for last. THe other option would be to replace tarn with biggs+r4d6 for the same price.

I am now worried about the token stripping HotShot CoPilot. Is R5P9 a liability? What about going back down to PS 8 Poe and R2D2. There it can be a 1 point initiative or add the Black One title (which I think is not as good) for an even 100.