1 hour ago, Undeadguy said:

Ok but let's see the Yaris push the tank into another one and see what happens

I think these physics questions should be directed at the engineers who play Armada since they have a greater understanding of what's going on.

The Yaris hit part of the tank which has a high rigidity in.the horizontal direction. Aka the tank is designed to withstand impact at ground level.

Now throw the Yaris at 30mph 1m above ground level at the tank. The photo would look very different as the tank isnt designed for this impact.

An ISD is not designed with bracing for horizontal impact at midship. Adding bracing for a low risk event is a waste of material, adds weight and subsequently reduces performance.

Hit an ISD head on at it wont crumple. Hit the rear and it wont crumple because this area has to withstand the thrusters anyway. Hit at midship.....

space. "almost zero gravity or other forces". the weight of an ISD? surely thousands of tons in atmosphere, maybe 5 lbs in space. exert force and an object ACCELERATES AND MOVES FOREVER until another force(collision or atmosphere) stops it.

just like in mass effect, firing dreadnought weapons in space without a PERFECT targeting resolution was a war crime because the shot would accelerate forever and if it missed, "it would have hit someone, somewhere".

i understand the physics isnt perfect and i am no engineer. but if "some" enginering schools of thought embrace it, and it(space having no friction or gravity etc) has cost US lots of dollars as research, its "good enough for a fantasy series."

IF YOU WANT REALISM, lets talk about x-wing pilots having tons of sideffects due to being exposed to lots of zero-G conditions.

3 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

The Yaris hit part of the tank which has a high rigidity in.the horizontal direction. Aka the tank is designed to withstand impact at ground level.

Now throw the Yaris at 30mph 1m above ground level at the tank. The photo would look very different as the tank isnt designed for this impact.

An ISD is not designed with bracing for horizontal impact at midship. Adding bracing for a low risk event is a waste of material, adds weight and subsequently reduces performance.

Hit an ISD head on at it wont crumple. Hit the rear and it wont crumple because this area has to withstand the thrusters anyway. Hit at midship.....

As an engineer(ing student), my money says the Yaris is even more screwed. You're hitting the main armor plate of the turret and the forward sloped armor, which on a Western tank is one of the most heavily armored parts since the turret will be the only part exposed when the tank attempts to fire its gun in a fixed, pre-made position, and forward sloped section is the only part that s hould be exposed to the enemy in manuever combat. If you're discussing hitting it from the rear, you're hitting thinner armor, but still trying to hurt the structure holding the armor, whereas the Yaris as a modern car is designed to safely crumple on impact to reduce energy transfer to passengers, which is exactly what it did in the above example (even if the forces were way above designed loads). I will further point out that while the Yaris is a distributed load quite different from stopping a high velocity armor-piercing anti-tank munition, whether a missile or another tank's gunshot, the energies involved in a Yaris collision are still way below the impact of a projectile, and a distributed load to boot. TL:DR, I still have my money on a Challenger whose paint is only scuffed.

1 hour ago, Kikaze said:

space. "almost zero gravity or other forces". the weight of an ISD? surely thousands of tons in atmosphere, maybe 5 lbs in space. exert force and an object ACCELERATES AND MOVES FOREVER until another force(collision or atmosphere) stops it.

just like in mass effect, firing dreadnought weapons in space without a PERFECT targeting resolution was a war crime because the shot would accelerate forever and if it missed, "it would have hit someone, somewhere".

i understand the physics isnt perfect and i am no engineer. but if "some" enginering schools of thought embrace it, and it(space having no friction or gravity etc) has cost US lots of dollars as research, its "good enough for a fantasy series."

IF YOU WANT REALISM, lets talk about x-wing pilots having tons of sideffects due to being exposed to lots of zero-G conditions.

Regarding the Star Destroyer, mostly this. It's certainly a little ridiculous that the Hammerhead was able to impart that much energy to the disabled Star Destroyer, but both had been immobilized by the Y-wing bombing runs, and as Kikaze points out, in space there are no frictional forces worth considering. All forces are conserved, mostly because there is nowhere to bleed the energy to. Ginkapo also makes the point that this is not the part of the Star Destroyer intended to withstand impact, let alone with the plate of another Star Destroyer. All in all, I rate it "Close Enough for Suspension of Disbelief" (mostly because, as has been pointed out in previous threads, in order for the Star Destroyers to maintain that low an orbit, it's highly implausible that the ships would not have immediately plummeted planetward, as the combination of that low and that slow relatively speaking would require active station-keeping from their engines, so I won't do proper physics calculations with coefficients and variables I definitely don't have).

Boo! Take your Hammerhead Corvette/Rogue One/space physics discussion elsewhere! Boo! Boo!

"I was saying boo-urns!"

4 minutes ago, Snipafist said:

Boo! Take your Hammerhead Corvette/Rogue One/space physics discussion elsewhere! Boo! Boo!

"I was saying boo-urns!"

On that note, has anyone compared the VASSAL Freshman Tournament fleets to the Regional fleets?

@GiledPallaeon something to learn when you get a job. Dont always tell the truth to the client. If we did that here we would have to point out that the analogy of Yaris vs Tank is entirely inappropriate.

26 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

@GiledPallaeon something to learn when you get a job. Dont always tell the truth to the client. If we did that here we would have to point out that the analogy of Yaris vs Tank is entirely inappropriate.

I learned that already working for the government. The difference is whether or not you tell the truth, the contract still requires the impossible. And of course it's hilariously inappropriate. It's also hilarious.