16 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Gravitas is what makes bombs fall down, right?
LOL!
Episode VIII: The Last Jedi (Eventual Spoilers)
2 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:Your lack of response here is quite telling, Splad.
My lack of a response is my going and doing other things lol. You may leap to what ever conclusion in your perspective to what that means to the discussion /smh
Or how a non invested authority lays waste to the boxoffice bs.
The movie is on track to make over a billion dollars after two weeks. I don't think Disney is worried. Besides, these movies are more about the merchandising. That's where the real money is. https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/12/30/box-office-star-wars-the-last-jedi-has-2nd-best-3rd-friday-drop-ever-for-100m-opener/#2cad853477e2
4 minutes ago, splad said:My lack of a response is my going and doing other things lol. You may leap to what ever conclusion in your perspective to what that means to the discussion /smh
"Doing other things" like writing other responses here. No, it's blatantly obvious that you made a false accusation against me and when asked to back it up you couldn't.
This whole thread is getting really embarrassing for you.
6 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:Or how a non invested authority lays waste to the boxoffice bs.
" People who need their personal preferences to be considered facts, and who resent the existence of data contrary to their own preferences, are unfortunately common in society and especially among fandoms of all sorts. There are also a disturbing number of people who seem incapable of logical reasoning and critical thinking, who cannot reasonably apply data or understand the relationship between a variety of facts. The overlap between lack of ability to grasp implications of data or to think critically, and tendency to insist a personal preference is a fact to the point of ignoring or rejecting data contrary to that preference, is notable and suggests a cyclical relationship between the two conditions. "
BWAHAHAHA
It's like the writer is reading this thread.
2 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:"Doing other things" like writing other responses here. No, it's blatantly obvious that you made a false accusation against me and when asked to back it up you couldn't.
This whole thread is getting really embarrassing for you.
Listern sweetie this is obviously a revolutionary thought for you but i am on no time table to respond to you and am not obligated to respond to you in any shape or form. You are not the center of anyone's universe. Unless it is
Make up your own ending to this conversation, oh wait you already have /shrug. Now i'm off to do 'other things' Which may include, storming of the Bastille, the climbing of mount Everest and teaching Esperanto. But to amuse you in the meantime while you await for my return i leave you a kid playing all the instrumental parts of Master of Puppets, rather good actually imho.
2 minutes ago, splad said:i am on no time table to respond to you and am not obligated to respond to you in any shape or form
More deflection instead of dealing with the reality of your own lack of response.
20 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:" People who need their personal preferences to be considered facts, and who resent the existence of data contrary to their own preferences, are unfortunately common in society and especially among fandoms of all sorts. There are also a disturbing number of people who seem incapable of logical reasoning and critical thinking, who cannot reasonably apply data or understand the relationship between a variety of facts. The overlap between lack of ability to grasp implications of data or to think critically, and tendency to insist a personal preference is a fact to the point of ignoring or rejecting data contrary to that preference, is notable and suggests a cyclical relationship between the two conditions. "
BWAHAHAHA
It's like the writer is reading this thread.
It’s uncanny.
18 minutes ago, splad said:I leave you a kid playing all the instrumental parts of Master of Puppets, rather good actually imho.
He is pretty good.
11 hours ago, whafrog said:So it occurred to me that you might think the Clone Wars is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Clone_Wars_(2003_TV_series)
Rather than this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series)
I've never seen the former, but yeah, the animation looks poor, never heard anything good about it.
I've been referencing the latter, which is what most people think of. Nominated and won an Emmy for the animation work, so calling it "poor" is just...weird.
So you have one last chance to redeem yourself, sir, or I will take my toys and go home.
I've seen both series, so I knew which one you were talking about.
Almost every animated show these days uses cheap CG, and they have to give that Emmy to something. I do like the ship animations in Clone Wars, those look cool, but what matters most is the characters' faces because that is where the equivalent of acting can actually happen. (Think of the animated faces in Last Airbender or Korra, or Frozen.) And when it comes to expressive faces, Clone Wars is closer to Paw Patrol than than it is to anything made by Pixar.
2 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:Or how a non invested authority lays waste to the boxoffice bs.
Very helpful article. Aside from the good points about the financial situation of the film (I hadn't thought about the snowstorm issue), this rang very true to me given the discussions I've seen:
QuoteIndeed, there is another loud contingent of Star Wars fans who are perpetuating the myth of major backlash against The Last Jedi, expressing anger at what they perceive as unreasonable and unfairly broad criticism of the film. Many of those fans also seem to have bought into certain press claims about box office trouble for the picture, increasing their hostility toward other viewers and/or press who dislike the film or even merely rank the film as anything less than perfect. Long debates on social media and fan sites are filled with insults and resentment over not just the sillier or transparently inconsistent and reactionary complaints about The Last Jedi, but also wrongly targeting the many valid and thoughtful critiques.
Splad should hopefully come to the realization that the blunt sledgehammer approach to using master suppression techniques on forums doesn't really work.
All it does is piss people off and show you as the ******* you are.
Now, if you're in a position of power (say, someones boss) then those techniques can be used effectively without having to take much care in how you use them.
But on a forum where everyone is more or less "equal" in hierarchy, it's just not going to fly. It won't win you any arguments.
(I'm not advocating the use of master suppression techniques, mind you. Just saying that people in power can get away with using them, a random forum peasant, can't.)
On 12/30/2017 at 4:18 PM, Stan Fresh said:I'm sad to report the Earth's still flat.
Don't be stupid. The Earth isn't flat. Where would the Illuminati Lizardmen at the Earth's core live then?
Master Suppression techniques my ***. A boss acting that way consistantly will go straight down to bankruptcy, we are in an economy of full employment. Skilled employees can choose their jobs rather easily and those techniques are literally opposing any best practise for leadership and middle-management. So that stuff does basically not work in any environment.
Here you go, everything you possibly needed to know about the four breasted titty monster!
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It was something that Rian wanted to shoot in the location, for real. We actually built that animatronic puppet, back at Pinewood, we transported it to ILM, and we flew it into that location with a helicopter. Once it was in the location, we locked two puppeteers inside there. The head opened a little bit, two puppeteers got inside, we put the head back up, and we sealed it with a prosthetic band that went around the side. And then, there were two puppeteers that operated the flippers on the outside, and a couple of other puppets in the background. We were set and ready for the arrival of the film crew, and we had a window that we knew we had to meet.
It was designed to be able to breathe and there was a milk delivery system, on the inside. The guys on the inside could see what was happening on the outside, through monitors and a walkie system that we had, and Mark literally walked up, bent down, and milked his sea-sow. It made a lovely tasting drink, by the way. It wasn’t as disgusting as it looked. They CG-ed a tint on it, in the end, to make it look even more disgusting. It was wonderful to be there and to do it for real, amongst the elements.
13 minutes ago, Desslok said:Don't be stupid. The Earth isn't flat. Where would the Illuminati Lizardmen at the Earth's core live then?
Typical inane Corist blather.
I'm not falling for that, MIB.
Nothing is set in stone with Rey's parents. It seems it's down to JJ to decide Rey's fate in more ways than one.
http://www.darkhorizons.com/last-jedi-director-reys-parents-not-yet-set/
I've finally seen the movie, and while I was in the cinema I was enjoying it, but then once I had some time to think about it I kind of started to absolutely hate it. There were so many things just totally wrong with it. The whole Finn and Rose plot went absolutely nowhere, and General Gender Studies was absolutely horrible, literally causing a mutiny by simply refusing to tell her soldiers the plan for no reason except the writers wanted to make Poe look stupid.
The absolute worst thing was the hyperdrive ramming though, because that just full on invalidates every single space battle we've ever seen in Star Wars. There would be absolutely no reason anyone would fight capital ship battles with lasers when you can pulverize an entire enemy fleet with a hyperdrive-missile from outside of the effective range of laser weapons. The Rebellion would have easily smashed the entire Empire by simply buying a few thousand old junk ships, putting a droid at the controls and setting them to collide with Star Destroyers. There is no reason why hyperdrive torpedoes wouldn't be the go to attack against enemy capital ships and planetary installations pretty much ever since the invention of hyperdrive if this is how it works now. I mean in Force Awakens we already established that a hyperdrive can get you past any shield.
I mean, Star Wars isn't exactly realistic when it comes to space combat, it's incredibly silly in fact, but I can handle silly as long as the rules are consistent. At this point they have been bent beyond my suspension of disbelief. Once you establish that you can destroy capital ships by ramming into them at hyperspeed, and that there is no defense against this because it can be initiated from beyond the effective range of all other weapons there is simply no reason why ships in Star Wars wage war the way they do anymore. This would simply be the primary mode of attack for all warring factions, chucking huge hyperdrive missiles at each other from extreme distance.
Edited by AetrionSounds like you actually missed the point of many of those scenes then. Here’s a very interesting breakdown of the movie I just found:
16 minutes ago, Aetrion said:General Gender Studies
Sorry, but people who aren't white men get to be in these movies as well. I know, the horror, but you might feel better if you accept that now.
23 minutes ago, Aetrion said:and General Gender Studies was absolutely horrible, literally causing a mutiny by simply refusing to tell her soldiers the plan for no reason except the writers wanted to make Poe look stupid.
Your boss demotes Bob, who had been a supervisor, then is incapacitated. Tasked with taking over for your boss, you’re in a meeting with department managers, and Bob barges into the meeting, demanding to be told what your strategy is.
Do you...
A) Tell Bob your strategy
B) Ask Bob what the frak he’s doing, interrupting a meeting he wasn’t asked to join to demand information that he has no reason to be privy to at that time?
14 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:Your boss demotes Bob, who had been a supervisor, then is incapacitated. Tasked with taking over for your boss, you’re in a meeting with department managers, and Bob barges into the meeting, demanding to be told what your strategy is.
Do you...
A) Tell Bob your strategy
B) Ask Bob what the frak he’s doing, interrupting a meeting he wasn’t asked to join to demand information that he has no reason to be privy to at that time?
Whoa, whoa. Hold on there. You left out important information!
Am I normal person, or a (shudder) female in that scenario? How am I supposed to make a decision without knowing that!?!
1 hour ago, Aetrion said:General Gender Studies was absolutely horrible
Why must everything about this movie be criticized through the lens of politics? Holdo was a horrible character, a blight on a movie I otherwise mostly liked. But that had nothing to do with her being a purple-haired woman in authority. Critics of the movie just make themselves look bad when they gratuitously bring in politics like this.
Edited by DaverWattra46 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:Your boss demotes Bob, who had been a supervisor, then is incapacitated. Tasked with taking over for your boss, you’re in a meeting with department managers, and Bob barges into the meeting, demanding to be told what your strategy is.
Do you...
A) Tell Bob your strategy
B) Ask Bob what the frak he’s doing, interrupting a meeting he wasn’t asked to join to demand information that he has no reason to be privy to at that time?
There are actually some important things left out of this description of the situation, namely: Morale on the ship is so bad that people are mobbing the escape pods and guards with stunners are necessary just to keep crew from deserting.
Why didn't Holdo just tell the whole crew about her plan, or at least tell the whole crew that there was a plan that would get them all out of this alive (as opposed to just saying "We must have hope" in a way that strongly suggested to anyone listening that there was no plan)?
An answer that's been floated in this thread before is: She didn't tell the crew because First Order spies might be planted in the Resistance, and these spies might communicate her plan to the FO ships.
But this answer has a serious problem: Any such spies would also be able to signal the FO once everyone started piling into transports and abandoning the cruiser. The plan could hardly be kept secret from spies once it was actually set in motion. So if there were any FO spies on board, the whole Resistance was dead anyway.