2 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

In before more conspiracy theories or am I already to late for that?

I'm sad to report the Earth's still flat.

5 hours ago, DaverWattra said:

Sort of. They do take the bridge.

I think a good commander would decide it was worth it to try diplomacy with Poe. His heart was clearly in the right place, although he was being an idiot, and fighting him risked dividing the Resistance in a time of crisis.

Also, the whole Holdo plotline depends on the assumption that one person is sufficient crew to control a cruiser... In which case, why have a crew of thousands in the first place?

A crew in the hundreds. Those ships were much more automated than cruisers from 30 years ago. iirc the whole resistance fleet had a head count of just 750 people at some point in the movie and this included some corvettes, a frigate and the cruiser.
Even the home one was already 10 times more automated than the imperial class star destroyers and the raddus seems to be about 10 times more automated than the home one.

Now you still need at least 150 guys for the fighters, better 300 and some people on the guns seems like a good plan too, plus medical, repairs, etc .... I would guess that in general the ship was understaffed right from the beginning. °_^

27 minutes ago, splad said:

Report me all you want you're the one who called me insane for having a differing opinion than you. So check your conceit at the door. If you don't want to see my posts put me on block or don't respond. If this cry baby routine is how you respond to people face to face I feel sorry for you. Grow up. And also check your arrogance that you are the trend setter and guardian of what is discussed and what is not. You are just another person and petty one to boot.

Yeah, the thing is yo were riling people up ever since you came to this topic and apparently you are itching for more.

I called you insane?! Is that another conspiracy? Because all I said was that the thing you are pushing is not reality and that there is no reasoning with conspiracy thinkers. And like clockwork you continued onward even in the face of Hamill explicitly stating the thing you are pushing is a fallacy.

Your whole schpiel about whether I would act like this face to face is a bit contrived because you wouldn’t have the balls to talk to me like that face to face. You trolls never do. And it is probably a good thing because I wouldn’t stand for the consequences and I don’t even enjoy being that guy.

Telling me to grow up... at least you got a laugh there.

13 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Yeah, the thing is yo were riling people up ever since you came to this topic and apparently you are itching for more.

I called you insane?! Is that another conspiracy? Because all I said was that the thing you are pushing is not reality and that there is no reasoning with conspiracy thinkers. And like clockwork you continued onward even in the face of Hamill explicitly stating the thing you are pushing is a fallacy.

Your whole schpiel about whether I would act like this face to face is a bit contrived because you wouldn’t have the balls to talk to me like that face to face. You trolls never do. And it is probably a good thing because I wouldn’t stand for the consequences and I don’t even enjoy being that guy.

Telling me to grow up... at least you got a laugh there.

You know, he still has made one good point. Block is a reasonable thing to do, because you are starting to lose your cool here. Just block him and call it a day, because the whole discussion is supposed to be entertaining mainly and little else.

Truth! And done.

It is true I got pissed off too much with that troll but as I am struggling with depression it just pushes my buttons when I get called insane by some ahole online. Which of course makes no sense.

1 hour ago, splad said:

And also check your arrogance that you are the trend setter and guardian of what is discussed and what is not. You are just another person and petty one to boot.

The irony is strong with this one.

Just now, Nytwyng said:

The irony is strong with this one.

Not really, i've never told anyone that this conversation is over haha. I say what i say like or disliked, attended to or dismissed.

3 minutes ago, splad said:

Not really, i've never told anyone that this conversation is over haha. I say what i say like or disliked, attended to or dismissed.

My mistake. How on earth could I possibly have mistaken calling people who enjoyed a movie you didn’t “lesser fans” and other of your Gatekeeper behavior as “arrogance?”

2 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

My mistake. How on earth could I possibly have mistaken calling people who enjoyed a movie you didn’t “lesser fans” and other of your Gatekeeper behavior as “arrogance?”

Awww lol

I’m not sure why its necessary to argue minutiae. I went into the theater with great anticipatiion and left disappointed with the experience. No amount of explanation will lift that feeling. I just didn’t enjoy it.

50 minutes ago, splad said:

Not really, i've never told anyone that this conversation is over haha. I say what i say like or disliked, attended to or dismissed.

Can confirm. Have to repeat the same things over and over. Conversation never over, points just get ignored in a "lalala can't hear your fashion"
So let's continue to debate

41 minutes ago, robus said:

I’m not sure why its necessary to argue minutiae. I went into the theater with great anticipatiion and left disappointed with the experience. No amount of explanation will lift that feeling. I just didn’t enjoy it.

Now that is totally cool. It gets problematic when you explain why this is so, and that why is not based on what is in the movie, but instead of some headcanon. Now people will get mad, because someone on the internet is wrong, while others keep telling everyone that the feelings are more important than facts and that the movie is objectively bad, etc ... internet drama erupts.

Not liking the movie is cool and indeed no amount of explanation will remove the memory of disappointment. To bad for you, I am sorry that you did not like the movie which for me is at the very least in the same league as empire.

2 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

Can confirm. Have to repeat the same things over and over. Conversation never over, points just get ignored and a "lalala can't hear your fashion"
So let's continue to debate

You can choose not to respond if you don't want to talk about it. And ty for throwing up the MH Twitter:)

5 hours ago, splad said:

So we will see more irreverent humour and less of the gravitas the original trilogy.

Gravitas! That's the word. Ewoks, playing stormtrooper helmets like steel drums...gravitas. Burping toads...gravitas. Spinning a droid upside-down to sear his feet with a red-hot bar while he emits screaming sounds from his vocabulator...gravitas. Fat dudes in lederhosen crying over a dead Rancor...gravitas. Womp-rats...gravitas! Space slugs...GRAVITAS! Meeting Yoda...GRAVITAS!!!

Yeah, you've certainly nailed the OT there...lol.

None of the humorous bits from TLJ are any worse than anything in the previous 7 movies, and most of them are better. It's hilarious to me that some fans want to feel like a kid again, but they aren't kids now, so the same humour doesn't land in the same way. But they sure complain like the little kids they were...

On 2017-12-29 at 10:12 AM, DaverWattra said:

actually enjoy a lot of episodes of Clone Wars, it had good ideas, but it suffers from poor animation, low quality voice acting and stereotypical kid's show characterization and dialogue-level writing.

So it occurred to me that you might think the Clone Wars is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Clone_Wars_(2003_TV_series)

Rather than this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series)

I've never seen the former, but yeah, the animation looks poor, never heard anything good about it.

I've been referencing the latter, which is what most people think of. Nominated and won an Emmy for the animation work, so calling it "poor" is just...weird.

So you have one last chance to redeem yourself, sir, or I will take my toys and go home.

8 minutes ago, whafrog said:

So it occurred to me that you might think the Clone Wars is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Clone_Wars_(2003_TV_series)

Rather than this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Clone_Wars_(2008_TV_series)

I've never seen the former, but yeah, the animation looks poor, never heard anything good about it.

I've been referencing the latter, which is what most people think of. Nominated and won an Emmy for the animation work, so calling it "poor" is just...weird.

So you have one last chance to redeem yourself, sir, or I will take my toys and go home.

I like both of these. The animation for the former mirrored Samurai Jack (which I like also). Give it a watch if you can stand the animation, it has some interesting ideas to dig through. At one time you could watch it on YouTube.

25 minutes ago, whafrog said:

Gravitas! That's the word. Ewoks, playing stormtrooper helmets like steel drums...gravitas. Burping toads...gravitas. Spinning a droid upside-down to sear his feet with a red-hot bar while he emits screaming sounds from his vocabulator...gravitas. Fat dudes in lederhosen crying over a dead Rancor...gravitas. Womp-rats...gravitas! Space slugs...GRAVITAS! Meeting Yoda...GRAVITAS!!!

Yeah, you've certainly nailed the OT there...lol.

None of the humorous bits from TLJ are any worse than anything in the previous 7 movies, and most of them are better. It's hilarious to me that some fans want to feel like a kid again, but they aren't kids now, so the same humour doesn't land in the same way. But they sure complain like the little kids they were...

Take for instance and compare the original fare of the original Thor movie to the current Thor Ragnorok movie. The tonal theme of the humor changed dramatically. It was that type of change I saw embellished heavily into tlj

Of course their was silliness of Ewoks and rancor guards but overall a serious fantasy was laid out. Take for example Rey is confronted with a serious situation of being linked to Kylo and she asks him to put in a robe or something. It was a detractor. The humor to me was off beat for most of the episode.

35 minutes ago, whafrog said:

Gravitas! That's the word.

What everyone did not know, the medical frigate had a name and it's name was … Gravitas... Gravitas... No, Don't Help Me, I'll Get It In A Moment... and one of the corvettes was the Low Gravitas Warning Signal

And now, I have to get my river class super lifter. Bye Bye

50 minutes ago, splad said:

Take for instance and compare the original fare of the original Thor movie to the current Thor Ragnorok movie. The tonal theme of the humor changed dramatically. It was that type of change I saw embellished heavily into tlj

The oroginal Thor movie sucked though, and it’s attempts at humor felt awkward, and the character development felt rushed so as to be not apparent.

The new Thor movie had none of these issues.

Well, I just got home from seeing it a second time, and loved it even more.

If anyone thinks I'm somehow less of a valid Star Wars fan because of this, feel free to block me. In fact, I'd ask you to.

Just seen clips of this on YouTube.

The Luke confronting the First Order and Kylo looks awesome even if no audio to avoid copyright.

Nothing improves the Carrie Fisher in space sequence unfortunately.

The death of Snoke and his guard was a much better fight than I expected, now looking forward to finally watch this properly hopefully the movie won't be anywhere near that bad!

Keep up the chat I'm hoping you might address what you hope this means for episode 9 and beyond!

6 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:

What everyone did not know, the medical frigate had a name and it's name was … Gravitas... Gravitas... No, Don't Help Me, I'll Get It In A Moment... and one of the corvettes was the Low Gravitas Warning Signal

And now, I have to get my river class super lifter. Bye Bye

Now I want a ship called "No, Don't Help Me, I'll Get It In A Moment..."

On 12/28/2017 at 8:14 AM, OddballE8 said:

For those of you who liked this, here's what he has to say about the Prequels.

13 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

Specify where what I'm saying contradicts the facts.

Your lack of response here is quite telling, Splad.

7 hours ago, whafrog said:

Gravitas! That's the word. Ewoks, playing stormtrooper helmets like steel drums...gravitas. Burping toads...gravitas. Spinning a droid upside-down to sear his feet with a red-hot bar while he emits screaming sounds from his vocabulator...gravitas. Fat dudes in lederhosen crying over a dead Rancor...gravitas. Womp-rats...gravitas! Space slugs...GRAVITAS! Meeting Yoda...GRAVITAS!!!

Yeah, you've certainly nailed the OT there...lol.

None of the humorous bits from TLJ are any worse than anything in the previous 7 movies, and most of them are better. It's hilarious to me that some fans want to feel like a kid again, but they aren't kids now, so the same humour doesn't land in the same way. But they sure complain like the little kids they were...

I don't agree with whafrog...

Usually...

But he's completely right here.

There were quite a lot of childish (and poor) attempts at humor in the OT.
These new movies are not much worse in that aspect, with the possible exception that there's a bit more of it.

As for a lack of gravitas in the new movies, I disagree. There's quite a lot of gravitas. It's just that people are largely ignoring it because they don't like the fact that the movies aren't made the exact way they want them to be made.

Gravitas is what makes bombs fall down, right?