What do people want/expect from a promo-type release?

By talismanisland, in Talisman

Egh, yeah I too would HATE random booster packs or anything like that. I like the current system; one big box expansion with a corner board, then a smaller expansion, repeat. Once we get 4-5 corner boards maybe they could come up with other gimmicks for the big boxes like an overlay board for the Inner Region. Other than that I like the system the way it is. If they want to make some of the smaller expansions more like what TI said, aka a mix of like adventure cards, dungeon cards, etc I would LOVE that, as it would be sad if we never saw another Dungeon card.

I don't think people would complain either, even if they didn't have the Dungeon expansion, or whatever expansions they needed for other card types. I mean, if it was that much of a bother for people like that, then they can just avoid buying that expansion like they did with the Dungeon expansion. Or they can set aside the extra cards. For the rest of us, it would keep ALL the decks of the game growing which I think is important going forward.

im sick. i like to have it all,IF i can. lengua.gif

Once they've released four corner boards, a small box of cards with extras for all four corner boards and some spells and perchance teh odd adventure card, would be awesome.

However, what I'd really like to see, once they're done with boards and the like, is a "Collectors' Box". That is, a box sized to hold everything, all the boards, cards, figures, counters and such from all the expansions. It can include a combined rule book, with all the errata, printed versions of the web-released endings, and anything similar that hasn't been released, and other such goodies.

I know that those who own the FFG version have less need of this than those of us who own the BI version, but once you have four expansion board and all those cards and figures, it's going to be messy.

I am already happy if we get a card collector box for holding all the cards ( or at least a lot) for talisman.

I am sure, that we don't have room anymore for cards if the next expansion will come.

And the inlay will probably be the same as the dungeon.. sad.gif

This troubles me a lot..

A card collector box with some nice artwork on it, will fix the problem. I think that most people will buy it gran_risa.gif

Mattr0polis said:

Egh, yeah I too would HATE random booster packs or anything like that. I like the current system; one big box expansion with a corner board, then a smaller expansion, repeat. Once we get 4-5 corner boards maybe they could come up with other gimmicks for the big boxes like an overlay board for the Inner Region. Other than that I like the system the way it is. If they want to make some of the smaller expansions more like what TI said, aka a mix of like adventure cards, dungeon cards, etc I would LOVE that, as it would be sad if we never saw another Dungeon card.

Hi Matt,

I would love too, to see some more dungeon cards.

Or cards such as Dark Denizens, because the main deck will grow bigger and bigger gran_risa.gif

Then they can add the 3th edition trapdoors too ! gran_risa.gif

Or maybe some goblin scouts. If you draw them them on the mainboard, then they will shout, and you must draw another dungeon card to see what will come lengua.gif .. Just a idea..

The goblin march..

Velhart said:

I am already happy if we get a card collector box for holding all the cards ( or at least a lot) for talisman.

I am sure, that we don't have room anymore for cards if the next expansion will come.

And the inlay will probably be the same as the dungeon.. sad.gif

This troubles me a lot..

A card collector box with some nice artwork on it, will fix the problem. I think that most people will buy it gran_risa.gif

I dunno, personally I would be happy having it too... however now I'm using a big box and I'm not sure if I would put inside all meh homebrew stuff inside of the official collector box. But would be nice, if they would include in it printed versions of all the promo cards released until releasing the collector box (both original only and internet only) as well as some additional collectors-only cards, few characters (like always they never gave us more Characters than few...) and completely new cards.

Velhart said:

Mattr0polis said:

Egh, yeah I too would HATE random booster packs or anything like that. I like the current system; one big box expansion with a corner board, then a smaller expansion, repeat. Once we get 4-5 corner boards maybe they could come up with other gimmicks for the big boxes like an overlay board for the Inner Region. Other than that I like the system the way it is. If they want to make some of the smaller expansions more like what TI said, aka a mix of like adventure cards, dungeon cards, etc I would LOVE that, as it would be sad if we never saw another Dungeon card.

Hi Matt,

I would love too, to see some more dungeon cards.

Or cards such as Dark Denizens, because the main deck will grow bigger and bigger gran_risa.gif

Then they can add the 3th edition trapdoors too ! gran_risa.gif

Or maybe some goblin scouts. If you draw them them on the mainboard, then they will shout, and you must draw another dungeon card to see what will come lengua.gif .. Just a idea..

The goblin march..

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

I would love to see a collector's box to hold my talisman.

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Velhart,

Thanks for the info, great news, I believe they include both cards in Dungeon eventually. There will be a big regret if no new Dungeon cards be included in future expansions.

Croonos said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Velhart,

Thanks for the info, great news, I believe they include both cards in Dungeon eventually. There will be a big regret if no new Dungeon cards be included in future expansions.

If some cards will be added to the dungeon expansion, then i like to see more traps (events) for the dungeon. We have already plenty of enemies, and it's not actually a adventure there..(+ gong should be added) ( +3th edition trapdoor for mainboard)

At this moment, i like to see all the retro cards back gran_risa.gif

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Velhart,

Thanks for the info, great news, I believe they include both cards in Dungeon eventually. There will be a big regret if no new Dungeon cards be included in future expansions.

If some cards will be added to the dungeon expansion, then i like to see more traps (events) for the dungeon. We have already plenty of enemies, and it's not actually a adventure there..(+ gong should be added) ( +3th edition trapdoor for mainboard)

At this moment, i like to see all the retro cards back gran_risa.gif

Even that very dangerous from The Cave? ;>

Nemomon said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Velhart,

Thanks for the info, great news, I believe they include both cards in Dungeon eventually. There will be a big regret if no new Dungeon cards be included in future expansions.

If some cards will be added to the dungeon expansion, then i like to see more traps (events) for the dungeon. We have already plenty of enemies, and it's not actually a adventure there..(+ gong should be added) ( +3th edition trapdoor for mainboard)

At this moment, i like to see all the retro cards back gran_risa.gif

Even that very dangerous from The Cave? ;>

Exactly those from The Cave are very necassary aplauso.gif I hope that FFG know this stuff.

Nemomon said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

Velhart said:

Croonos said:

I also think that Dungeon cards should appear in next expansions. I still miss Gong and Altar - for the moment there is no place to pray in Dungeon. Does the Altar art in Frostmarch have something from the underground vibe like Cave Troll, Lesser Demon or Miser Dragon which was released in Reaper before Dungeon? If so, maybe there is a chance to add it to Dungeon cards in future expansions…

Hi Croonos,

The Altar fits perfect for the dungeon region.

It has a underground as background.

I also hope that the Gong and Altar will appear in the dungeon.

But i am already happy that we have the Altar for the mainboard gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Velhart,

Thanks for the info, great news, I believe they include both cards in Dungeon eventually. There will be a big regret if no new Dungeon cards be included in future expansions.

If some cards will be added to the dungeon expansion, then i like to see more traps (events) for the dungeon. We have already plenty of enemies, and it's not actually a adventure there..(+ gong should be added) ( +3th edition trapdoor for mainboard)

At this moment, i like to see all the retro cards back gran_risa.gif

Even that very dangerous from The Cave? ;>

Some cards may be added.

( for mainboard ) bandits treasure, draft, dungeon map, ghostly venguance, lantern, mace, meteor shower, penance, pict, Poison arrows (+bow from third), retinue

for dungeon:

Blinding flash, depression, Hallucination, hidden trap, lizard men,

spell cards:

betrayal, debauchery(nasty), providence, vitality

From Adv my first pick up would be Hydra, then Sleeping Potion. Then, Mumakil (even more annoying card than Ekor), Ghostly Vengeance, Meteor Shower, Heavy Armor, Gold Mine (I don't recall situations, when someone was leaving this card without taking the last 10th gold piece) and of course last but not least - Legionnaire (but not that one "fixed" by translator).

Dungeon Map is pretty useless, no one ever used it. Penance had very unclear wording, and usually was banned from the game (as a Character in Outer Region was not able to move to Middle Region due to some interpretations). Mace is useless. Really. Also, there is a translation mistake in Herb Garden - we are recovering all our Life, not Strength.

For Dungeon - Nameless One. It is a true ruler of Dungeon, not LoD.

For Spells, almost all but Metamorphosis and pretty useless Leash.

I also would like to see some cards from Magiczny Miecz (Magical Sword). I'll translate few of them:

Spell of Malicious

Cast at the start of a character’s turn, before he moves. Teleport him to any other space in the same Region. This Spell cannot be cast in the Inner Region, you also cannot teleport him to the Treasure Chamber.

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Lord of Gifts

Cast at the start of your turn. Every Character in this Region must give you something due to their choice (1 gold, 1 Craft or 1 Strength, a Follower, Spell &c). If you cannot take something, discard it (do not give it back to the Character).

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Gift of Might and Magic

Cast on any Enemy another Character is about to engage in battle or psychic combat. During this battle or psychic combat, Strength/Craft of the Enemy is increased by your Strength/Craft.

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Lord of Destiny

Cast as required on another Character. He loses of your choice 1 Follower, 1 Object, 1 gold, 1 Strength, 1 Craft, 1 Life or 1 Spell. All that points &c must be discarded.

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Crown of Space

Cast on another Character after you completed your move. That Character must encounter the space you land on instead of you. Both Characters stays on their spaces.

Magiczny Miecz generally was a lot harder than original Talisman / Magia i Miecz. It even had 3 "You Are Dead" Spells, not just 1 like MiM had. Later I might translate few funny Adventure cards from Magiczny Miecz.

Frog said:

talismanisland said:

Another idea could be player aids with exclusive content, like a set of Toad or Reaper dice along with some "bonus" cards in a small expansion.

I'd love to have a set of TOAD dice with a pair of TOADIFY spell cards packed in for good measure! I would by that (probably multiple) in a second!

Yeah, now that sounds great. A Toad Expansion, with multiple spells that can turn characters into toads in different ways (according to alignment, strangth, fate, craft, region etc), additional adventure cards with the danger of being turned into a toad, toad quests, and a toad that moves along the game with a toad infection (like Reaper).

redsimon said:

Frog said:

talismanisland said:

Another idea could be player aids with exclusive content, like a set of Toad or Reaper dice along with some "bonus" cards in a small expansion.

I'd love to have a set of TOAD dice with a pair of TOADIFY spell cards packed in for good measure! I would by that (probably multiple) in a second!

Yeah, now that sounds great. A Toad Expansion, with multiple spells that can turn characters into toads in different ways (according to alignment, strangth, fate, craft, region etc), additional adventure cards with the danger of being turned into a toad, toad quests, and a toad that moves along the game with a toad infection (like Reaper).

If a Toad expansion would be made, then they can include the different Toad characters (Warrior Toad, Ranger Toad etc

I see already a Toad King figure marching as a NPC on the mainboard gran_risa.gif

If he lands on you, then he will turn you into a Toad. But if you are a Toad already, then he will give you a gift..

I'd buy anything FFG would put out for Talisman. For a promo-type release, I'd love a new box to hold everything. I'd like more characters and endings as well (like the 2 so far FFG has released online).

With the amount of cards coming with each release (especially small-box expansions), I wouldn't really care if MORE of those came out. Mainly characters and fun things like special dice for Toads, or even death.

I also like some special dice's for toads (with a toad figure on it)

Then we can use the die, if we roll at the Enchantress or Witch etc

Another idea i have in my mind now is, that if they include the different toad characters(Warrior toad , Ranger toad etc), then they can maybe create a special die, with markings of different toads on it. If you are a toad, then you may try out your luck. If you roll the same image as the toad that you are, then the Toad King will visit you, and you get a gift lengua.gif sounds funny

Velhart said:

I also like some special dice's for toads (with a toad figure on it)

Then we can use the die, if we roll at the Enchantress or Witch etc

Another idea i have in my mind now is, that if they include the different toad characters(Warrior toad , Ranger toad etc), then they can maybe create a special die, with markings of different toads on it. If you are a toad, then you may try out your luck. If you roll the same image as the toad that you are, then the Toad King will visit you, and you get a gift lengua.gif sounds funny

i like the dice idea. and the collectors box thing. so,sounds good...when do we see them? gran_risa.gif

just kiddin'! partido_risa.gif

1. BLANK CARDS - at least 25 of each type + maybe a few new types for our own creations. Nothing like the feel of real cards even when you've drawn on one side.

2. Mega Card Storage - inside "tin" perhaps metal - desined specifically for card storage capable of storing ALL cards (existing cards AND cards predicted from ALL future expansions)

3. unique dice (i really like the dice in 4rth ed revised) perhaps Black Reaper dice for sure (but i dont get TOAD dice - unless theres 1's on each side and theyre green - maybe a pair that permits you to change back to your original form faster if you roll doubles) Heck they could have 5 ones and a toad on each dice. You always move 1 but if you roll 2 toads you can convert back immediately).

4. Collector Talisman Coins - gold colored MeTaL - (see dreadpirate coins from front porch classics) - nothing like the clank of metal on metal coins.

5. GEMS - ok i understand that the next expansion will have gem cards. When you draw a bag of gold you trade for coins. When you draw a gem card, replace with Gems. You could spend the gems just like money depending on gem value. But its always nice to have a cool looking gem sitting in front of you.

6. Plastic structures - ok im drinking a bit, but 3 demensions is cool too. Heck the board is just so large its hard to see whats where way over there. And its only going to get larger. I could more easily see a 3d tavern/city/crypt/etc. I know this is prob too much.

7. Metal Figures? Brass figures@! Ok enough for now lol.

Oh yea, and Talisman TALISMANS. Replace your talisman card with the legendary, mythical, METAL, ultra cool, ACTUAL, TALISMAN!!!

I only look like a civilised person from the outside. In fact I'm still hunter-gatherer at heart gui%C3%B1o.gif .

As the advent of convenience stores rendered most of my skills obsolete I hunt and gather books, games, miniatures, coins, tarot decks, dice and pretty much anything else I can put my hands on... It's an instinct and I can't really help it.

Therefore I will be compelled to buy anything that will be released for Talisman even if it would be "Talisman - Hello Kitty" partido_risa.gif .

But seriously. I don't really like an idea of promo (i.e. limited edition) stuff. I bought Talisman some year too late to get Doppleganger and Instructor. And I didn't liked it at all. OK, so I got lucky and found them on ebay for a moderate price, but... What if I had to pay few hundred bucks for them? Not an easy choice for obsesive collector, eh?

Special (not limited, mind you) edition is something different. As many before me said, I would love to get my hands on a collector's box to hold all my cards and dice and boards. I would love it to contain printed versions of exclusive online cards (not many so far but let's hope there will be more). Real metal coins with Talisman logo and metal figures also sounds delicious babeo.gif .

Booster packs between smaller and larger box expansions would be an excellent way to hold the attention of less dedicated players and ease the wait periods for maniacs like myself. Themed boosters - yes. Random boosters - NO! It works for Magic the Gathering because it has different gameplay. For one it's a valid strategy to have doubles or quintuples of some cards in your deck. If you don't need some cards from a booster you can trade or sell them because everyone has different decks, different strategies and different styles of playing. In Talisman you don't really need ten Wild Boars or 40 Bags of Gold (unless you play insane, 25 people games like we used to in the club lengua.gif ).

So, themed and named boosters with 20-30 cards - all exactly the same in each pack. Titles - so you can easily identify which pack you already have. "The Dungeon - Level 2" or "The Frostmarch - Frostbites" or similar gui%C3%B1o.gif . You could buy one or more if you're planning bigger games or just like this particular theme.

Still awake? Good. I just finished gui%C3%B1o.gif .