How about a CC sub forum?

By TheToad, in Star Wars: Armada

So I'm not well versed in how exactly forums work or who to go to with this request so I decided just to put it out there. I think CC should really get its own sub forum. The types of builds and overall strategy differs so much from the standard game that I think it would benefit from having its own place for discussion. This would also keep confusion down on the standard fleet build sub forum and keep that page from getting too congested.

What do you guys think?

Eh...having "gotten into the game" playing the standard and tournament games, and then selling it all off because it wasn't actually that great...

...and now seriously loving the story and planning needed for the CC campaign...

...can't we just move off the people interested in playing the inferior version of the game, and leave the main forum for the CC players and questions? It's honestly what Armada should have been from Day 1 - it is the way the game should be played for maximum enjoyment! So much changes in how you plan for and then execute a battle, when the results of it have effects beyond that table...and those things that change make the game a LOT more enjoyable.

Xander I too am of the opinion that CC is the true way this game should be played. However, we shouldn't alienate our hyper aggressive death match playing brothers by trying to oust them. We just need to show them the way...

Edited by TheToad

Hmmm...I enjoy casual games with my friends...casual local tournaments...competitive tournaments...also loving the CC...playing both tabletop and vassal...why one or the other when I can have a piece of every cake and some extra icing too? :D

(and no, I'm not obese, I just hail from the boonies - people know how to eat cake where I come from)

Edited by Green Knight

Instead of insult ways of play why don't we turn our full attention the the fact this webpage, you know the offical FFG Armada site (for one of the biggest mini games) have decent forum moderation and sub threads for specific topics. This webpage is very frustrating. Nobody is actually satisfied with the Armada Forum. It should be better.

Edited by Trizzo2

I was trying to be funny not insulting I enjoy the standard game but prefer the campaign. Now back to the subject...

Trizzo you're right I really love this site but **** it is clunky. What do we gotta do to make some change?

I agree on the new subforum for the Corellian Conflict. IMO, it's really opening up a whole new way to enjoy the game, which is sufficiently different from the standard play, that it would be great to have a separate space.

Instead of insult ways of play...


There's a difference between insulting and ribbing.

...why don't we turn our full attention the the fact this webpage, you know the offical FFG Armada site (for one of the biggest mini games) have decent forum moderation and sub threads for specific topics. This webpage is very frustrating. Nobody is actually satisfied with the Armada Forum. It should be better.


I'm fairly satisfied.

Of course, there are sometimes trolls and sourpusses who wander in here, griping about stuff that really isn't worth the energy to read.

I also think that Armada is not dead.

I agree on the new subforum for the Corellian Conflict. IMO, it's really opening up a whole new way to enjoy the game, which is sufficiently different from the standard play, that it would be great to have a separate space.

Instead of insult ways of play...

There's a difference between insulting and ribbing.

...why don't we turn our full attention the the fact this webpage, you know the offical FFG Armada site (for one of the biggest mini games) have decent forum moderation and sub threads for specific topics. This webpage is very frustrating. Nobody is actually satisfied with the Armada Forum. It should be better.

I'm fairly satisfied.

Of course, there are sometimes trolls and sourpusses who wander in here, griping about stuff that really isn't worth the energy to read.

I also think that Armada is not dead.

Agree...about ribbing, misread.

The forum should be much better. Most of the content is posted into this main page. No sustained discussion can be had over a long peroid of time on a specific topic. No easy reference to old material. No primers. No sticked things. It's not good. Trolls I don't care for too much, they are an outlier compared to the overwhelming content but the forum doesn't have much depth for a game with this variety, scale, complexity and popularity imo.

Edited by Trizzo2

Considering how many more times I'm going to play CC and how many times CC threads come up, this is a good idea. Hoping they release more campaigns in the future.

I think it's a great idea.

Considering how many more times I'm going to play CC and how many times CC threads come up, this is a good idea. Hoping they release more campaigns in the future.

Indeed.

I was perusing the X-Wing forum earlier today. I saw this thread, which suggests that some of them may be having campaign envy.

However, in a way by giving us a set of rules, it means that we effectively have all we need to create new maps, and thus new campaigns.

I don;t want a "Corellian Conflict" Sub-Forum.

That would set a precedent as the only Campaign we get...

Because its ludicrous to expect to get a Campaign every year, and thus, a new campaign forum, every year....

Battle Reports works in the Meantime.

Advocate to Create one Specific Sub-Forum for "Campaigns" if you wish... But Battle Reports is still essentially under-used as it is... The few who do report do so with some regularity, but there's certainly room for more... Add a [Corellia] tag if you wish...

Yep!

I don;t want a "Corellian Conflict" Sub-Forum.

...

Battle Reports works in the Meantime.

Advocate to Create one Specific Sub-Forum for "Campaigns" if you wish... But Battle Reports is still essentially under-used as it is... The few who do report do so with some regularity, but there's certainly room for more... Add a [Corellia] tag if you wish...

I agree with you on the naming.

I don't agree with you on using the Battle Reports subforum. I just never go there. I think other people might just also not wander in there, and so their contributions would be missed.

I feel your second point can be put both ways.

Having the sub-forum won't make poeple post there anyway.

"be the change you want to see" and all.

Besides, the Battle Report sub-forum is the newest of the lot. And personally, I see most of the Corellian Conflict discussion is either:

a) rules questions
b) battle / turn reports, which are basically just written battle reports

So what's wrong with using what we have as provided - at least in the meantime?

I mean, if you don't go to Battle Reports, that's all well and fine - but is that a failure of the Battle Reports Sub-Forum?

I do spend a lot of time in all of the Forum lines. I just don't post in most of them, as I feel my own contributions are missed and ignored... (Most times, especially recently, for the better... But that's a whole other Flotilla of Commanders...)

I don't agree with you on using the Battle Reports subforum. I just never go there. I think other people might just also not wander in there, and so their contributions would be missed.

People not using sub forums is a massive issue.

USE THEM

I'd like a Campaign Sub forum page. As of right now it is hard to actually go through the front page and actually find the type of threads I want to be a part of. I didn't hop on over the weekend and what was on the front page Friday was 3 pages down on Monday. Definitely a lot of people here and it is a bit overwhelming when 50+ threads are made each day.

At least the rules forums is organized with people posting CC in front of every question. Now I know what to avoid and what not to.

Wouldn't CC be under "organized play?"

Wouldn't CC be under "organized play?"

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Only if you don't consider "Organized Play" as a Trademark (of sorts) referring to "FFG's Organized Play of Tournaments, Prizes and Incentive Systems."

Plus the Subtitle to the forum is about sharing your tournament experiences, essentially - of which a campaign is not :D

HOWEVER

It gets Murkier when we add in those FFG:OP Corellian Conflict Kits... Whenever they're Delivered....

Edited by Drasnighta

I feel your second point can be put both ways.

Having the sub-forum won't make poeple post there anyway.

"be the change you want to see" and all.

Besides, the Battle Report sub-forum is the newest of the lot. And personally, I see most of the Corellian Conflict discussion is either:

a) rules questions

b) battle / turn reports, which are basically just written battle reports

So what's wrong with using what we have as provided...

Sure, barring a 'Campaigns' subforum, reports on how your campaigns are going are fine for the Battle Reports subforum. It can be the forgotten filing cabinet for that sort of thing. Personally, that's what I have my blog for.

The thing is, I see the notion of a campaign as an entirely different experience: one that unlocks more (or different) imaginative/creative energy than the standard Armada experience does.

I'm not sure that your characterization of the sorts of posts CC is generating is accurate. There are also a lot about the game map, and how to display it (physically or digitally). Some are sharing spreadsheets to track their progress. Some of us are going quite beyond even that.

I feel your second point can be put both ways.

Having the sub-forum won't make poeple post there anyway.

"be the change you want to see" and all.

Besides, the Battle Report sub-forum is the newest of the lot. And personally, I see most of the Corellian Conflict discussion is either:

a) rules questions

b) battle / turn reports, which are basically just written battle reports

So what's wrong with using what we have as provided...

Sure, barring a 'Campaigns' subforum, reports on how your campaigns are going are fine for the Battle Reports subforum. It can be the forgotten filing cabinet for that sort of thing. Personally, that's what I have my blog for.

The thing is, I see the notion of a campaign as an entirely different experience: one that unlocks more (or different) imaginative/creative energy than the standard Armada experience does.

I'm not sure that your characterization of the sorts of posts CC is generating is accurate. There are also a lot about the game map, and how to display it (physically or digitally). Some are sharing spreadsheets to track their progress. Some of us are going quite beyond even that.

Indeed, indeed. And I don't want to belittle the effort at all... Perhaps I'm short sighted in seeing "Gaming Experience" as "Battle reports and More"

I feel your second point can be put both ways.

Having the sub-forum won't make poeple post there anyway.

"be the change you want to see" and all.

Besides, the Battle Report sub-forum is the newest of the lot. And personally, I see most of the Corellian Conflict discussion is either:

a) rules questions

b) battle / turn reports, which are basically just written battle reports

So what's wrong with using what we have as provided...

Sure, barring a 'Campaigns' subforum, reports on how your campaigns are going are fine for the Battle Reports subforum. It can be the forgotten filing cabinet for that sort of thing. Personally, that's what I have my blog for.

The thing is, I see the notion of a campaign as an entirely different experience: one that unlocks more (or different) imaginative/creative energy than the standard Armada experience does.

I'm not sure that your characterization of the sorts of posts CC is generating is accurate. There are also a lot about the game map, and how to display it (physically or digitally). Some are sharing spreadsheets to track their progress. Some of us are going quite beyond even that.

Yes we are seeing campaign specific modifications, campaign fleet lists, campaign rule questions, and very specific help wanted posts for certain campaign match ups. These posts are being made in several different sub forums and are hard to follow. Giving the campaign its own sub forum would not only make it easier to follow these posts, it will also decongest some of the other forums and make this whole forum easier to use.

@Drasnighta, If I could switch the title to "How about a campaign sub forum?" I totally would because there definitely needs to be more of these.

Cause let's be honest after me and my boys are done liberating the Corellian sector we've got a few more targets in mind...

Edited by TheToad

I'd like a Campaign Sub forum page. As of right now it is hard to actually go through the front page and actually find the type of threads I want to be a part of. I didn't hop on over the weekend and what was on the front page Friday was 3 pages down on Monday. Definitely a lot of people here and it is a bit overwhelming when 50+ threads are made each day.

At least the rules forums is organized with people posting CC in front of every question. Now I know what to avoid and what not to.

Part of the issue there is people constantly making new threads for things, even when there is already basically the same thread on the first page. Tons of people want to propose Armada rules changes, for instance, but can't just contribute to one of the threads already in existence on the topic. They just have to create a new one.

I don;t want a "Corellian Conflict" Sub-Forum.

That would set a precedent as the only Campaign we get...

Because its ludicrous to expect to get a Campaign every year, and thus, a new campaign forum, every year....

Battle Reports works in the Meantime.

Advocate to Create one Specific Sub-Forum for "Campaigns" if you wish... But Battle Reports is still essentially under-used as it is... The few who do report do so with some regularity, but there's certainly room for more... Add a [Corellia] tag if you wish...

While I agree they probably won't release a new campaign every year, with how well it seems to have been received, it might be worth considering. One ship/squadron wave and one campaign a year. It would probably be fairly simple to tie the campaigns in together as well.

Edited by benskywalker