Basic mathematics says you only round up at .5 and higher. This travesty is why the system is doomed to fail.

Basic math doesn't say that. Basic math says you can round to the nearest whatever you'd like.

And this is why common core is bad. Math is a universal language. Changing it doesn't fix it, it makes you dummmmmmer.

Oh cool, tell me how rounding to the nearest ".5" is working out for you when dealing with dollars? Or one of the many other times in your life you round to something other than a whole number.

Well, you used to just round to the nearest whole number, be it up or down. .4 and under went down, .5 and higher went up....but that was before the dark times. Before the Empire.

.... What The Hell is Common Core?

In the United States we recently reevaluated what basic proficiencies should be taught in k-12 and it included teaching math differently than parents grew up doing so they can't solve their kids homework anymore and everyone is a panic because Obama did it and Obama bad.

With good reason. Before the standard was initiated...

"American students rank 25th in math, 17th in science and 14th in reading compared to students in 27 industrialized countries.”

...IE., yes, it's different from "how you learned it growing up"...but apparently "how your generation learned it" was the wrong way and was causing our country to lag behind the entire rest of the industrialized world. We've since started catching up quite well, because while it seems obtuse to people who learned The Old Way, what it is really good at is getting kids to visualize the math problem - which helps A LOT when it's time to transition into higher mathematics.

For example, 100-99 is a tedious mess when you have to keep carrying the one, but much easier to solve when you say "99 plus what equals 100?" And now suddenly you've been taught subtraction in a way that both helps you in real life when making change and sets it up as an algebra problem without anyone noticing.

Basic mathematics says you only round up at .5 and higher. This travesty is why the system is doomed to fail.

Basic math doesn't say that. Basic math says you can round to the nearest whatever you'd like.

And this is why common core is bad. Math is a universal language. Changing it doesn't fix it, it makes you dummmmmmer.

Oh cool, tell me how rounding to the nearest ".5" is working out for you when dealing with dollars? Or one of the many other times in your life you round to something other than a whole number.

Well, you used to just round to the nearest whole number, be it up or down. .4 and under went down, .5 and higher went up....but that was before the dark times. Before the Empire.

Basic mathematics says you only round up at .5 and higher. This travesty is why the system is doomed to fail.

Basic math doesn't say that. Basic math says you can round to the nearest whatever you'd like.

And this is why common core is bad. Math is a universal language. Changing it doesn't fix it, it makes you dummmmmmer.

Oh cool, tell me how rounding to the nearest ".5" is working out for you when dealing with dollars? Or one of the many other times in your life you round to something other than a whole number.

Well, you used to just round to the nearest whole number, be it up or down. .4 and under went down, .5 and higher went up....but that was before the dark times. Before the Empire.

Superman 3 is your movie. It was made for you.

So do you always try and act like an elitist or only when talking about common core?

Hey, if I could delete this thread, I would. Save the triggering for Friday.

You're going to need it.

What's Friday?

Trump's inauguration.

Sygnetix I believe is tweaking us based on the assumption that those of us who aren't freaking out about Common Core must be some kind of easily-agitated trigger-warning-obsessed far lefties who cannot cope with the real world. I mean the alternative explanation is his joke wasn't very good. Or maybe that his opinion of a fairly basic educational reform is rather extreme and not widely shared. BUT IT CAN'T BE THOSE THINGS, RIGHT?

Basic mathematics says you only round up at .5 and higher. This travesty is why the system is doomed to fail.

Basic math doesn't say that. Basic math says you can round to the nearest whatever you'd like.

And this is why common core is bad. Math is a universal language. Changing it doesn't fix it, it makes you dummmmmmer.

Oh cool, tell me how rounding to the nearest ".5" is working out for you when dealing with dollars? Or one of the many other times in your life you round to something other than a whole number.

Well, you used to just round to the nearest whole number, be it up or down. .4 and under went down, .5 and higher went up....but that was before the dark times. Before the Empire.

Superman 3 is your movie. It was made for you.

So do you always try and act like an elitist or only when talking about common core?

I'm a teacher. I'm absolutely tired of hearing about how awful it is (from other teachers, parents, etc), when the kids I work with are clearly doing better with it

Hey, if I could delete this thread, I would. Save the triggering for Friday.

You're going to need it.

What's Friday?

Trump's inauguration.

Sygnetix I believe is tweaking us based on the assumption that those of us who aren't freaking out about Common Core must be some kind of easily-agitated trigger-warning-obsessed far lefties who cannot cope with the real world. I mean the alternative explanation is his joke wasn't very good. Or maybe that his opinion of a fairly basic educational reform is rather extreme and not widely shared. BUT IT CAN'T BE THOSE THINGS, RIGHT?

Much like psychologists aren't mathematicians, I am not a comedian.

Hey, if I could delete this thread, I would. Save the triggering for Friday.

You're going to need it.

What's Friday?

Trump's inauguration.

Sygnetix I believe is tweaking us based on the assumption that those of us who aren't freaking out about Common Core must be some kind of easily-agitated trigger-warning-obsessed far lefties who cannot cope with the real world. I mean the alternative explanation is his joke wasn't very good. Or maybe that his opinion of a fairly basic educational reform is rather extreme and not widely shared. BUT IT CAN'T BE THOSE THINGS, RIGHT?

"dummmmmmer"

So....where was the Armada under all of this? I seem to have lost it...

"rounding to the nearest whole number" - <0.5 round down, whilst = or >0.5 round up.

"rounding up" - ANY FRACTION IS THE NEXT WHOLE NUMBER.

On a side note, as someone in the UK - I feel your pain over Friday. Theresa May is almost as terrifying.

guys you're WAY over compleicating and thinking it. The phrase "rounded up" means any remainder round up.......

Super simple, original game size was 300 points, 1/3 is 100. I think FFGs decision to bump the game to 400 points was indicative of their general business strategy "make **** up as we go, the player base can adapt."

"rounding to the nearest whole number" - <0.5 round down, whilst = or >0.5 round up.

"rounding up" - ANY FRACTION IS THE NEXT WHOLE NUMBER.

On a side note, as someone in the UK - I feel your pain over Friday. Theresa May is almost as terrifying.

thank God someone else who knows Math.

The rules state, Round Up, people need to remeber there is three versions of Rounding:

Round Up (all fractions go UP to the next highest Whole Number or 3.1 and 3.9 both round to 4)

Round Down (all fractions/decimals go DOWN the next Lowest whole number or 3.1 and 3.9 both round to 3)

and

Round nearest or 3.1 - 3.4 rounds DOWN and 3.5 - 3.9 rounds UP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding

Please please please just let this misbegotten thread die. It was uninformed from the beginning about the only relevant issue, and OP awkwardly jammed in a poorly thought out political opinion into the question. Now it's about to become about the US presidential inauguration and we're about to have our third straight week of a troll thread dominating the forum.

Common Core's math is about framing math equations in such a way that you can apply them better to every day life and to higher math. What you're talking about is called rounding up and I don't know how you got the two confused.

His ignorant and smug dismissal of Common Core without having any ^#%ing clue of what it entails is really a pretty clear indicator that he's basically math illiterate and just another proud anti-intellectual.

My experiences so far have led me to realize that the people who are most upset about Common Core educational curricula are also those least informed about what it is and what it accomplishes.

Common Core's math is about framing math equations in such a way that you can apply them better to every day life and to higher math. What you're talking about is called rounding up and I don't know how you got the two confused.

His ignorant and smug dismissal of Common Core without having any ^#%ing clue of what it entails is really a pretty clear indicator that he's basically math illiterate and just another proud anti-intellectual.

My experiences so far have led me to realize that the people who are most upset about Common Core educational curricula are also those least informed about what it is and what it accomplishes.

Cant be any worse than the attempt to use the Chinese method of teaching math that they're trialling at a few schools in the UK.

Lots of By Rote repetition of tables.

Kinda like memorising your times tables, but applied to fricking everything.

.... What The Hell is Common Core?

A standardized set of... standards for teachers nationwide in the US.

Or, on the internet:

SCARY​ Communist Math.

Lol 'commie' kids can do AP calculus in grade 10

Source: That's what they are studying in the grade 10 classroom behind me.

One of the problems I find with the teaching profession is that so many people believe that because they went to school, they have the right to tell you how to do your job. I don't know about common core as I'm from the UK but I'm sure it is a perfectly fine curriculum, and I would ignore the opinions of anyone who isn't an educator on the matter.

Let's just stop being hostile to one another and talk about plastic spaceships! No matter if you disagree with someone we don't need to be throwing personal jabs at each other. We are all here with common interests after all!

I read this article which seemed pretty biased to me.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2016/03/24/is-common-cores-effect-on-achievement-fading.html

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but a government-approved system that discourages fiction which is important for discussing literature and themes (thinking), and geometry (logic) doesn't sound like such a good idea to me!

Edit: Forgot the importance of that Oxford Comma!

I read this article which seemed pretty biased to me.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2016/03/24/is-common-cores-effect-on-achievement-fading.html

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but a government-approved system that discourages fiction which is important for discussing literature and themes (thinking) and geometry (logic) doesn't sound like such a good idea to me!

Fiction has a place in literature classes but where else?

Who said anything about fiction in geometry class?

Who said anything about fiction in geometry class?

You? You said literature, themes, and geometry?

This whole thread is WTF?