First, How did Armada break? I seem to have missed that.

Second, where the heck is the updated Battlescribe file for wave 5! It only has a few things and it is making my random list building suffer.

(1) Depending on who you ask: Flotillas

(2) Not out yet

1. Ben did it.

2. Dunno.

First, How did Armada break? I seem to have missed that.

Second, where the heck is the updated Battlescribe file for wave 5! It only has a few things and it is making my random list building suffer.

First, dont, just dont go there.

Second, who knows.

It didn't. Some people just think it didn't. The game is still awesome, you just have to play by the rules and not believe that you automatically win because you plopped down 2 ISDs.

Armada breaking was basically another Nelson type troll. I mean the guy had some points, but articulated them... horrifically wrong. I'm sure if you want to weed through posts, feel free to look at ones by Blade Wing.

First, How did Armada break? I seem to have missed that.

Second, where the heck is the updated Battlescribe file for wave 5! It only has a few things and it is making my random list building suffer.

First, dont, just dont go there.

Second, who knows.

Armada is in a better place than it ever has Ben.

Completely agree with egg, my only concern is we are at the peak of the games balance

Completely agree with egg, my only concern is we are at the peak of the games balance

Warranted. I kind of hope we get a good 8 months on this wave before anything else comes out. One thing I appreciate as a gamer is the chance to really play a wave well out before something new arrives, and from Wave 4 to December when Wave 5 dropped was really short in gaming terms.

There's a lot to love about the game, now.

I kind of hope we get a good 8 months on this wave before anything else comes out. One thing I appreciate as a gamer is the chance to really play a wave well out before something new arrives, and from Wave 4 to December when Wave 5 dropped was really short in gaming terms.

Totally agree. For me the ideal would be a tournament season (store championships/regionals etc) per wave with a potential minor update (like new squadrons of Corellian Conflict) in the middle.

Wow last time I was on here seriously, Dras made a thread that now eclipses most all threads I have seen since my days on Dakkadakka about how we did not get things fast enough

The big gripe was more the lack of articles, rather than a lack of new waves. It just kind of morphed as the normal delays struck the releases.

It was really the assumption that CC would be here sooner that got to people on top of the lack of love

Armada isn't broken old chap. It's a bit to squadrony for some (me included), but still in a great place. Tons of viable lists. I would say Rebel Admirals have a slightly easier time on list ramp right now, but once Imp Admirals know their lists the game is still all about skill in all phases.

Welcome back btw :-)

I think we're still trying to figure out exactly what happened now that CC and Wave 5 dropped.

If anything, the skill disparity in players is even more exaggerated given the tools now available, since there are legion ways of piling on reliable damage to the poorly maneuvering player.

Armada isn't broken old chap. It's a bit to squadrony for some (me included), but still in a great place. Tons of viable lists. I would say Rebel Admirals have a slightly easier time on list ramp right now, but once Imp Admirals know their lists the game is still all about skill in all phases.

Welcome back btw :-)

Not enough squadrons. . . too many squadrons. . . no one is ever happy

I think we're still trying to figure out exactly what happened now that CC and Wave 5 dropped.

If anything, the skill disparity in players is even more exaggerated given the tools now available, since there are legion ways of piling on reliable damage to the poorly maneuvering player.

Yea, it has been a thing that I have seen a lot of.

I think we're still trying to figure out exactly what happened now that CC and Wave 5 dropped.

If anything, the skill disparity in players is even more exaggerated given the tools now available, since there are legion ways of piling on reliable damage to the poorly maneuvering player.

Lol. Or squadrons piling damage on anything you want.

134 Squadrons is still name of the game. More and more squadrons have exacerbated themselves with very ways to fight against it without an equal point value of squadrons. And.. why even bother anymore.

Also, its all too many squadrons now.

It hasn't been "not enough squadrons" since Core and wave1.

How you figure since the CK of clone's list in wave two. No squadrons fleets were still a thing

How you figure since the CK of clone's list in wave two. No squadrons fleets were still a thing

Oh true, I forgot that one.

However, caveat: He had 2 squadrons, either aggressors or Tie Fighters (almost nothing).

Second, I believe in the first iteration, he did not have to go up against mass bomber lists.

And the counter that arose was Rieekan mass bomber squadrons correctly activated.

Remember all those wave2 Rieekan mass bomber Yavaris threads? THIS IS WHAT SPAWNED IT.

There you go: Wave2's bomber problems.

Also, Clon's list in modern iterations go up to 4 good squadrons or more.

Also, Clon's list in modern iterations go up to 4 good squadrons or more.

Derivatives of Clon's list.

Clon has yet to return from the african wilds to grace us with the one, true, modernised version of his list.

...

However, when he does, I will tell him this:

I'm still of the belief it never worked actually. People played it but who had success? He himself said and proved that vassal is not the same as actually playing the game. And it never had real success outside of vassal. And if we're talking about iterations, his last is just the gencon special. That is were the love for that list should go.

Also, Clon's list in modern iterations go up to 4 good squadrons or more.

Derivatives of Clon's list.

Clon has yet to return from the african wilds to grace us with the one, true, modernised version of his list.

...

However, when he does, I will tell him this:

Again, why does it have to be Clon's modern iteration. It could be anyone's. Meaning also ones we see in local tournaments now. By random people.

Why are you singling me out for nitpicking on my English? Also, nitpicking English is kind of rude, and White-Anglo Saxon Western-centric.

Also, Clon's list in modern iterations go up to 4 good squadrons or more.

Derivatives of Clon's list.

Clon has yet to return from the african wilds to grace us with the one, true, modernised version of his list.

...

However, when he does, I will tell him this:

Again, why does it have to be Clon's modern iteration. It could be anyone's. Meaning also ones we see in local tournaments now. By random people.

Why are you singling me out for nitpicking on my English? Also, nitpicking English is kind of rude, and White-Anglo Saxon Western-centric.

I'm not at all, I was making (and further perpetuating) a Joke, that ClonTroper5 made. Himself. That he had the one True Clonisher List. To the point that he had me paint up the One True Clonisher Gladiator Model, again, as a Big Joke.

So I'm sorry you didn't get the Joke.

Good job racially profiling me though. That was relevant.