It's past time. Our favorite princess deserves a pilot card.

By Stone37, in X-Wing

We have the source cannon material for her (and the introduction of the Naboo Starfighter). In light of the galaxy's recent loss, it is time that FFG honors our favorite princess. Because (as Mark Hamill put it) "she was our princess dammit!"

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Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I would love a better crew card based on Ep7 or whatever happens in Ep8. I feel like that would make more sense.

I would love a better crew card based on Ep7 or whatever happens in Ep8. I feel like that would make more sense.

I'd guess that there'll be one in Wave 12 if not before, depending on whether they issue the Resistance Transport in Wave 11.

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

The good thing is that after a short spike of attention limited to those platforms, nobody will care about those complaints anymore. I'd say that, in the grand scheme of things, they are pretty much a non-factor when it comes to sales.

Would love to see the Naboo N1 in game, and Princess Leia would be a nice bonus.

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

Why not, we already got the ARC.

Do you think they will add prequel (sub)factions?

Edited by Marinealver

Why not, we already got the ARC.

Do you think they will add prequel (sub)factions?

No.

Era correct Republic material fits into both Rebel and Empire and CIS doesn't fit anywhere.

An N1 would be great, and as per canon we would get Shara, Leia and the Naboo queen as pilots.

I think a Droid Starfighter would be real interesting as an illicit upgrade that gets added to an existing ship, but has its own model. Think of it as the droid control brain as an illicit upgrade that lets you control a droid fighter(s)

I think you could more easily add her as crew. I am not sure about adding the naboo fighter to the game.

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG, but I think the reverse might be true of what you've stated above (and I agree with Vineheart). I'm playing Destiny right now and my wife was pretty pissed that the teaser for the next wave showed Jyn as a rare and Director Krennic as an legendary. She has also voiced a displeasure in the fact that Luke and Han are Legendary and Leia is only a Rare. It would same the females are getting a biased treatment in FFG games.

Does FFG think we Star Wars/X-wing fan do not want to field Leia as a pilot? It just looks bad that we're 10 waves in and Fin (who hasn't flowing anything on screen) has a pilot card but not the most important female character of the franchise.

Edited by Stone37

I would like a General Organa crew card.

General Organa

Crew

Discard this card to assign two stress to every ship.

I think you could more easily add her as crew. I am not sure about adding the naboo fighter to the game.

Why not? While it was built in the time before the Galatic War, canonically it has appeared far more recent "in canon" than other ships requested; The fact that she was a pilot is a bonus "Shattered Empire" whether you like it or not helped show and develop the backstory to Poe Dameron & Leia Organa; it introduced Shara Bey and her exploits in the ARC; it also showed Leia is an exceptional leader and fearless pilot.

The N-1 is not only a "prequel" ship but also a "OT" ship and a ship used to support the efforts of the Rebellion against the last remnants of the Galatic Empire.

I would like a General Organa crew card.

General Organa

Crew

Discard this card to assign two stress to every ship.

I would accept this card as well (basically an updated R3-A2) and unless it had a receive a stress as well would be OP (especially if Rebel Only)

So

(unique) General Organa - 3 points

" after you perform this attack assign 2 stress tokens to the defnder, after you do assign 1 to your ship"

Edited by Cgriffith

The Yellow Tadpole is lame, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye isn't canon.

Sorry, no room for a Leia pilot.

Sucks that her crew card isn't that great, but there are plenty of important pilots from the movies and the EU that don't see use. Heck, nobody uses Luke Skywalker anymore either, and he's the protagonist of the OT, lol. Turns out some ships, pilots and cards have been rendered irrelevant by power creep and the game's evolution.

Look guys, it's a game. It's not a way to recreate the movies. Biggs has now died approximately 4,353, 729 times, which I am fairy sure is 4, 353, 728 more times that he can possibly die in the Star Wars universe. Pretty sure he's been killed by ships that don't even exist in the timeline when he perishes at the battle of Yavin. So maybe we're not simulating Star Wars and it doesn't matter how frequently these characters "show up", and their card names are just a placeholder for a set of game statistics. I'm fairly certain nobody actually thinks Palpatine just spends all of his time in the back of a Lambda shuttle helping TIE Defender pilots win dogfights.

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG
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Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG, but I think the reverse might be true of what you've stated above (and I agree with Vineheart). I'm playing Destiny right now and my wife was pretty pissed that the teaser for the next wave showed Jyn as a rare and Director Krennic as an legendary. She has also voiced a displeasure in the fact that Luke and Han are Legendary and Leia is only a Rare. It would same the females are getting a biased treatment in FFG games.

Does FFG think we Star Wars/X-wing fan do not want to field Leia as a pilot? It just looks bad that we're 10 waves in and Fin (who hasn't flowing anything on screen) has a pilot card but not the most important female character of the franchise.

Finn has a crew card, not a pilot card. There is no "special status" associated with crew cards. The discussion is pointless here and derails the thread. Never the less I can't restrain myself and answer anyways:

FFG knows the source material is kind of a sausage party - thats why many of the generic crew cards feature females (Fleet Officer, Recon Specialist...). And of course the Phantom pilots!

Can't say anything about Destiny, not interested in that game and I think it is a stretch to equate rarity with the 'worth' of a character. To be honest I'd rather have my favourite character be readily availiable than some elusive item I probably won't ever own.

Or we could bring her in a Y-wing aces pack, and not have to bring that dumb ship into the game.

And of course the Phantom pilots!

As you said, not the place to debate this, but only Whisper is confirmed female. Echo has been referred to as he in multiple articles.

Edited by YwingAce

"How dare your gender be more rare than mine!"

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG, but I think the reverse might be true of what you've stated above (and I agree with Vineheart). I'm playing Destiny right now and my wife was pretty pissed that the teaser for the next wave showed Jyn as a rare and Director Krennic as an legendary. She has also voiced a displeasure in the fact that Luke and Han are Legendary and Leia is only a Rare. It would same the females are getting a biased treatment in FFG games.

Does FFG think we Star Wars/X-wing fan do not want to field Leia as a pilot? It just looks bad that we're 10 waves in and Fin (who hasn't flowing anything on screen) has a pilot card but not the most important female character of the franchise.

Wow... thats some deep digging for sexism there.

But what about Phasma? she is a nothing character and is a legendary....

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG, but I think the reverse might be true of what you've stated above (and I agree with Vineheart). I'm playing Destiny right now and my wife was pretty pissed that the teaser for the next wave showed Jyn as a rare and Director Krennic as an legendary. She has also voiced a displeasure in the fact that Luke and Han are Legendary and Leia is only a Rare. It would same the females are getting a biased treatment in FFG games.

Does FFG think we Star Wars/X-wing fan do not want to field Leia as a pilot? It just looks bad that we're 10 waves in and Fin (who hasn't flowing anything on screen) has a pilot card but not the most important female character of the franchise.

Wow... thats some deep digging for sexism there.

But what about Phasma? she is a nothing character and is a legendary....

It's hard to avoid these days and Disney is riding the bandwagon without remorse. I got my hands of the Visual Dictionary for TFA the other day and Phasma's page has one of the most cringeworthy lines: "She pays no heed to outdated notions of inequality between genders, an idea common on undeveloped worlds."

Edited by CaptainNippon

The Yellow Tadpole is lame, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye isn't canon.

Sorry, no room for a Leia pilot.

Can I get the canon reference to Soontir Fel, please? How about Carnor Jax? Miranda Doni? Corran Horn? Manaroo?

My understanding is that X-Wing is firmly in Legends.

Well, you keep on waiting for them to reintroduce SotME. :lol:

The Yellow Tadpole is lame, and Splinter of the Mind's Eye isn't canon.

Sorry, no room for a Leia pilot.

Splinter of the Mind's Eye isn't, but Shattered Empire is. That's plenty of reason for both the N-1 and a Leia pilot card. :)

First, they used Carrie FIsher's image a lot before she died and they will continue to do so afterward. There will be no difference other than the fact she won't be appearing in future films, at least for some time. :unsure:

One of Fisher's favorite jokes was that she had to pay Lucas money every time she looked in the mirror.

Much as i'd love to both have Leia as a pilot and the Naboo fighter, im also afraid the group of ingrates that live to cause hate will just flame the hell out of FFG for "capitalizing on a celebrity's death" - lord knows Imgur and Youtube posts get flamed like hell for it, even though its usually exactly what theyre doing in those cases lol.

I seriously hope nobody would speak against the inclusion of Princess Leia in a Star Wars game...I mean the crew card we have is a joke and basicaly nonexistent!

I don't want to turn this into a threat about how the sexes are treated by FFG, but I think the reverse might be true of what you've stated above (and I agree with Vineheart). I'm playing Destiny right now and my wife was pretty pissed that the teaser for the next wave showed Jyn as a rare and Director Krennic as an legendary. She has also voiced a displeasure in the fact that Luke and Han are Legendary and Leia is only a Rare. It would same the females are getting a biased treatment in FFG games.

Does FFG think we Star Wars/X-wing fan do not want to field Leia as a pilot? It just looks bad that we're 10 waves in and Fin (who hasn't flowing anything on screen) has a pilot card but not the most important female character of the franchise.

Ultra rare doesn't necessarily mean it is better than a rare. They like some of their really good cards to just be rares to make the game more accessible. Ultra rares can sometimes be in there just for collectors. I wouldn't get too upset about rarity. Also look at how they market it. Rey is the one selling destiny right now, Jyn sill be selling the next set and Sabine and Hera will probably be selling the 3rd set before Rey comes back to sell the 4th set. So the marketing department knows what they are doing.

Now the developers on the other hand, well it is a sausage fest in there and the power of the cards effects for women can be a little behind the curve at times. That is what I am not happy about.