Why WOULDN'T you compare it to other cards? That is exactly what you do every time you pick your deployment cards.

I don't mean "don't compare with other cards when choosing a list".

I mean "don't compare a single unit with two very unique abilities and 3 traits to two troopers".

They are completely different. You can certainly compare some cards, but this guy is incredibly different to anything we've seen so far.

He has good range, great damage and good health. Nice Pierce 2, blast (which there isn't much of) and recover (which there also isn't much of) and enough surges to use them.

His abilities are completely unique. Few other units can perform as many attacks as he can and no one can self focus as well as he can.

Comparing him to heavy troopers just because they are both 6 points is like comparing Elite HKs with Elite Wookies. They are completely different and you make zero useful comments when comparing them. Especially in a vacuum

If you want to compare him to an elite probe droid? Perhaps that's more useful (at least purely from a damage point of view) but again, the utility and use case is completely different.

That was my point. He's so unique that he doesn't really compare well with anything right now. Perhaps Vinto or Davith although he is melee.

With a droid based wave, the only thing I'm bummed by is there'a no K2-S0. It's a perfect opportunity for him.

Remember that the development time of an IA product is about a year from concept to production.

They got two Rogue One releases out for X-Wing already. If they can manage that turnaround, they could've done it for IA... if they'd wanted.

That's interesting... I wonder how they manage that. Maybe the level of thematic tie-in is less important for X-Wing ships/crew than it is for Imperial Assault figures and missions?

Much so, you may recall that Poe was a Pilot in X-wing months before TFA came out.

And they then had to release a new version of him a year later, because he clearly didn't fit his display of skill in the movie (plus: more plastic to sell).

I'm sure we will see Rogue One expansions within the year, though.

In a Team Covenant video report of 2015 GenCon one of X-Wing devs said that they have a limited access to new stuff of the movies (he was talking about TFA at the time) so I imagine that they dont (or didnt at the time) have access to story details (or characters tricks in the movie).

Maybe that changed and FFG chose to wait until a movie releases and they take the proper time needed now.

I'm not sure why everyone is comparing BT to other cards. He's very unique.

Cheap, good health, solid attack, great traits and pretty insane abilities. The usefulness of his missile strike remains to be seen, but a free focus every attack is amazing.

His lack of surge for damage is the only thing keeping his cost down, otherwise he'd have to be about 8 pts.

I was mainly doing to allay cries of power creep. Basically to show he's not out of line with the power curve - at least not automatically and without lots of testing to prove otherwise. He has many aspects that are priced comparably to other units and then has very different things too, that make him unique and different and fill different spots. I don't think he acts like any other units at all really. Just that his power is within range of similarly priced things. The whole baseline argument of elite storms and elite probe droids from the developer interview.

I don't know about comparing to other cards, but BT is a beast for the cost. Decent health, better speed than R2, and pretty good surges (which he'll be getting frequently). So we have a low cost unit that can roll a 4 dice attack that blasts AND pierces AND recovers.

He will average 5 damage from what, about 7 range, after moving 4 spaces, undoes pretty much any defense, hits any targets adjacent for one damage, and can recover his own damage. That's a lot better than most uniques, AND he doesn't need any support for the focus.

Time will tell, but he seems pretty OP compared to the other unique options.

I don't know about comparing to other cards, but BT is a beast for the cost. Decent health, better speed than R2, and pretty good surges (which he'll be getting frequently). So we have a low cost unit that can roll a 4 dice attack that blasts AND pierces AND recovers.

He will average 5 damage from what, about 7 range, after moving 4 spaces, undoes pretty much any defense, hits any targets adjacent for one damage, and can recover his own damage. That's a lot better than most uniques, AND he doesn't need any support for the focus.

Time will tell, but he seems pretty OP compared to the other unique options.

This is what I was saying - he's really good. I don't know if you need sorin really in an Imperial Droid list

6 BT-1

4 0-0-0

5 eProbe

5 eProbe

3 rProbe x4

2 rOff x3

1 Zillo

1 Rule by Fear

Comparing him to other cards IS tricky because of different roles and all, but consider:

BT- cost 6, 10 health, 4 dice attack (can switch to attack multiple units as his schtick)

Lando - cost 6, 8 health, two dice attack (has rerolls as his schtick)

Davith - cost 6, 10 health, two dice attack (has speed/hide as his schtick)

Dengar - cost 7, 8 health, two dice attack (has conditions as his schtick)

Bossk - cost 8, 10 health, two dice attack, regenerates, area attack (as a second action, rather than blast)

In short, compared to single figure costs for other uniques, he has much more damage output, and can regenerate. He's pretty strong in comparison.

Comparing him to other cards IS tricky because of different roles and all, but consider:

BT- cost 6, 10 health, 4 dice attack (can switch to attack multiple units as his schtick)

Lando - cost 6, 8 health, two dice attack (has rerolls as his schtick)

Davith - cost 6, 10 health, two dice attack (has speed/hide as his schtick)

Dengar - cost 7, 8 health, two dice attack (has conditions as his schtick)

Bossk - cost 8, 10 health, two dice attack, regenerates, area attack (as a second action, rather than blast)

In short, compared to single figure costs for other uniques, he has much more damage output, and can regenerate. He's pretty strong in comparison.

Dengar is badly costed. He should be left off this example.

Comparing him to other cards IS tricky because of different roles and all, but consider:

BT- cost 6, 10 health, 4 dice attack (can switch to attack multiple units as his schtick)

Lando - cost 6, 8 health, two dice attack (has rerolls as his schtick)

Davith - cost 6, 10 health, two dice attack (has speed/hide as his schtick)

Dengar - cost 7, 8 health, two dice attack (has conditions as his schtick)

Bossk - cost 8, 10 health, two dice attack, regenerates, area attack (as a second action, rather than blast)

In short, compared to single figure costs for other uniques, he has much more damage output, and can regenerate. He's pretty strong in comparison.

Dengar is badly costed. He should be left off this example.

And with rebels you have to worry a lot about their easy access to focus. Dont know that that still doesn't mean lando and davith shouldn't have a third die (maybe they should but it's hard to know for sure balance wise).

Bossk has a lot packed into his extra two points cost. Regen. Plus one block. White die. Auto two damage (is like another dice in there - essentially a 3 die attack.)

Not saying they're bad comparisons at all. Just pointing out things for their costs.

Comparing him to other cards IS tricky because of different roles and all, but consider:

BT- cost 6, 10 health, 4 dice attack (can switch to attack multiple units as his schtick)

Lando - cost 6, 8 health, two dice attack (has rerolls as his schtick)

Davith - cost 6, 10 health, two dice attack (has speed/hide as his schtick)

Dengar - cost 7, 8 health, two dice attack (has conditions as his schtick)

Bossk - cost 8, 10 health, two dice attack, regenerates, area attack (as a second action, rather than blast)

In short, compared to single figure costs for other uniques, he has much more damage output, and can regenerate. He's pretty strong in comparison.

Lando has better surges and consistency, Davith starts with hide and frequently attacks twice while dealing a free damage, and Bossk has high health and defense and built in damage/accuracy. Dengar is highly overcosted (by at least 2 points).

The point is, you're selling the 3 viable comparisons short. BT-1 does a lot of things, but he isn't specialized for any one role. He can be a squad killer and spread damage, or he can focus on a single target. Without built in rerolls or a +2 damage surge, he has to roll damage consistently, which any IA player will tell you can't always be counted on. He's in line with the current power curve.

Seems prudent to note you can snap a Targeting Computer attachment on BT for 1 point. Would get you a reroll on 3 attacks of the Salvo. Seems worth consideration

Seems prudent to note you can snap a Targeting Computer attachment on BT for 1 point. Would get you a reroll on 3 attacks of the Salvo. Seems worth consideration

Was thinking that or Scavenged Weaponry myself

While the Jawa does fit thematically (and is a character that's likely hard to fit into anything other than a Tatooine-centric product which are well behind us), am I the only one thinking FFG missed the mark since this was the perfect opportunity to give us 4-LOM and Zuckuss?

Seems prudent to note you can snap a Targeting Computer attachment on BT for 1 point. Would get you a reroll on 3 attacks of the Salvo. Seems worth consideration

Was thinking that or Scavenged Weaponry myself

I'm with nickv2002 here, I would take Targeting Computer over Scavenged Weaponry. Scavenged weaponry only applies for one attack each round, and has to be used when the attack is declared, before you know the attack/defense results. While it is cool that it can be moved after BT-1 is defeated, it doesn't offer the same consistency that a Targeting Computer can bring. I'm also a sucker for rerolls, and I tend to stuff a Targeting Computer on anything that can use it if they don't already have rerolls built in.

Uggggh. I dont watch rebels so these expansions do not interest me much. Wish it would come to Netflix one day and then I can see if the show is any good.

If Xwing miniatures is any guide- Sabine Sabine Sabine everywhere- in a Tie, In a Pie, Up a tree, dont you agree?

Uggggh. I dont watch rebels so these expansions do not interest me much. Wish it would come to Netflix one day and then I can see if the show is any good.

If Xwing miniatures is any guide- Sabine Sabine Sabine everywhere- in a Tie, In a Pie, Up a tree, dont you agree?

Yeah, someone in FFG has a crush on her. I'm surprised she isn't in Imperial Assault yet, but I guess Shyla is a passable substitute for that person for now.

Regarding the show, it's good enough to have running in the background when doing chores or something. Not really good enough to warrant one's full attention IMO.

I put it on when painting and it's decent to make the time pass.

Yeah, someone in FFG has a crush on her. I'm surprised she isn't in Imperial Assault yet

Regarding the show, it's good enough to have running in the background when doing chores or something. Not really good enough to warrant one's full attention IMO.

I put it on when painting and it's decent to make the time pass.

I expect 4-LOM and Zuckuss will be in the next box expansion (although I'm very surprised they weren't connected to Jabba's Realm at all. Seemed a prime expansion to have some bounty hunters in really...)

I expect 4-LOM and Zuckuss will be in the next box expansion (although I'm very surprised they weren't connected to Jabba's Realm at all. Seemed a prime expansion to have some bounty hunters in really...)

Most of the expansion was merc already, and an Endor/DSII expansion can be expected to be light on Mercs.

In all seriousness: 4-LOM and Zuckass are a MUST!

I can't figure out why they haven't been released yet? I was thinking maybe a licensing issue somewhere, someone must own a piece of the two likenesses or something like that.

But now that we have the two 'killer droids' I think we're getting closer to Gary the Stormtrooper.

I'd rather they get 4Lom and zuckuss right then end up with another Dengar or Boba fett

If they did go Zuckass, would that force them to include Ghand Hunters as a generic? (Akin to how we have Trandoshans and Bossk).

Come on people. The reason we don't have Zuckuss/4LOM in this wave should be pretty obvious. They've released one of the ESB bounty hunters as the Scum villain with every expansion. The exception being Jabba's Realm, where well, duh, the villain is Jabba. Why would you expect to get them in the filler waves that have always been primarily for skirmish?

Now, if we get the presumed Endor/DSII/whatever box and they aren't there, complain away. But *****ing about it with this wave is just silly.

Uggggh. I dont watch rebels so these expansions do not interest me much. Wish it would come to Netflix one day and then I can see if the show is any good.

If Xwing miniatures is any guide- Sabine Sabine Sabine everywhere- in a Tie, In a Pie, Up a tree, dont you agree?

Worst character on the show as well. It's like portraying a hundred pound waif as a DEVGRU SEAL who likes to paint her equipment with pretty colors.

Come on people. The reason we don't have Zuckuss/4LOM in this wave should be pretty obvious. They've released one of the ESB bounty hunters as the Scum villain with every expansion. The exception being Jabba's Realm, where well, duh, the villain is Jabba. Why would you expect to get them in the filler waves that have always been primarily for skirmish?

Now, if we get the presumed Endor/DSII/whatever box and they aren't there, complain away. But *****ing about it with this wave is just silly.

4-LOM would have been a lot better than 0-0-0 And Zuckuss is a much better decision than a Jawa. I would have liked to have seen Zuckuss 4-LOM, and maybe BT-1 alone, and then Hera.... oh, alright, with Chopper.