I apologise if this has been asked before but a search turned up nothing.

SOT says to treat your new maneuver as red. If your new maneuver is red do you pick up two stress tokens? One from SOT and one for the maneuver itself?

Thanks for any help.

No.

You treat the manoeuvre as red, which means that if you switch to a red... you just execute it as normal, because it's already red.

Do what the card says. Don't do what it doesn't say. It doesn't say 'execute the manoeuvre then gain a stress'...

No. When you execute a red maneuver you assign a stress token to your ship.

If you SOT a red maneuver, it's still just red. It can't be more red than red

No.

You treat the manoeuvre as red, which means that if you switch to a red... you just execute it as normal, because it's already red.

Do what the card says. Don't do what it doesn't say. It doesn't say 'execute the manoeuvre then gain a stress'...

Red maneuvers cause you to receive stress and there are card combos that end up giving you multiple stress tokens in a phase so it's not much of a stretch to ask if you pick up two tokens for SOT and a red maneuver.

The mantra of "Doing what the card says..." is going to be questioned more often as new cards, abilities and conditions are added to the game. I can think of two for Epic where one can stack and the other doesn't even though the wording is very similar.

Stoneface, I can see how you got there, and there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

But DWTCSTT-DNDWTCDNSTD does apply here, because if I hand you a sandwich and say "Treat this sandwich as a sandwich," your response is probably going to be something like "Well, it was already a sandwich, so that should be easy."

Like I said, nothing wrong with asking the question. Some (not all) of those of us who look at this card and immediately arrive at the right interpretation are doing so because we learned to recognize the difference between "treat the maneuver as red" and "execute the maneuver and receive a stress" by getting it wrong.

No.

You treat the manoeuvre as red, which means that if you switch to a red... you just execute it as normal, because it's already red.

Do what the card says. Don't do what it doesn't say. It doesn't say 'execute the manoeuvre then gain a stress'...

Red maneuvers cause you to receive stress and there are card combos that end up giving you multiple stress tokens in a phase so it's not much of a stretch to ask if you pick up two tokens for SOT and a red maneuver.

The mantra of "Doing what the card says..." is going to be questioned more often as new cards, abilities and conditions are added to the game. I can think of two for Epic where one can stack and the other doesn't even though the wording is very similar.

The key point here with Stay on Target is it doesn't instruct you to assign a stress token when you're done like some other cards do. It's the actual manoeuvre that's going to do that for you, unless you've got some cunning way of preforming red manoeuvres and not getting a stress token from them. The mistake you've made here is melding the Check Pilot Stress rule into the card.

I think you over-thought this one just a little bit, buddy.

No.

You treat the manoeuvre as red, which means that if you switch to a red... you just execute it as normal, because it's already red.

Do what the card says. Don't do what it doesn't say. It doesn't say 'execute the manoeuvre then gain a stress'...

Red maneuvers cause you to receive stress and there are card combos that end up giving you multiple stress tokens in a phase so it's not much of a stretch to ask if you pick up two tokens for SOT and a red maneuver.

The mantra of "Doing what the card says..." is going to be questioned more often as new cards, abilities and conditions are added to the game. I can think of two for Epic where one can stack and the other doesn't even though the wording is very similar.

The key point here with Stay on Target is it doesn't instruct you to assign a stress token when you're done like some other cards do. It's the actual manoeuvre that's going to do that for you, unless you've got some cunning way of preforming red manoeuvres and not getting a stress token from them. The mistake you've made here is melding the Check Pilot Stress rule into the card.

I think you over-thought this one just a little bit, buddy.

Probably right about over-thinking it. I'm so use to getting a stress from red maneuvers and coupling that with getting stress even if you can't complete a red maneuver, like an aborted k turn, it got me thinking about picking up two reds from SOT and a red maneuver. Or not being able to turn to a red from SOT but that got squashed pretty quickly. Figured FFG would have mentioned not being able to take a red maneuver off of SOT.

Stoneface, I can see how you got there, and there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

But DWTCSTT-DNDWTCDNSTD does apply here, because if I hand you a sandwich and say "Treat this sandwich as a sandwich," your response is probably going to be something like "Well, it was already a sandwich, so that should be easy."

Like I said, nothing wrong with asking the question. Some (not all) of those of us who look at this card and immediately arrive at the right interpretation are doing so because we learned to recognize the difference between "treat the maneuver as red" and "execute the maneuver and receive a stress" by getting it wrong.

Official petition to change "Do what the card says, not what it doesn't say" to "Treat the sandwich as a sandwich".

Stoneface, I can see how you got there, and there's nothing wrong with asking the question.

But DWTCSTT-DNDWTCDNSTD does apply here, because if I hand you a sandwich and say "Treat this sandwich as a sandwich," your response is probably going to be something like "Well, it was already a sandwich, so that should be easy."

Like I said, nothing wrong with asking the question. Some (not all) of those of us who look at this card and immediately arrive at the right interpretation are doing so because we learned to recognize the difference between "treat the maneuver as red" and "execute the maneuver and receive a stress" by getting it wrong.

Official petition to change "Do what the card says, not what it doesn't say" to "Treat the sandwich as a sandwich".

Pastrami on Rye, yellow mustard and baby swiss! Two to go please!