I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.
I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.
RAPID LAUNCH BAYS!
WOOOOOOO!
I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
Great. Now I like the stupid things even more.
I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.
RAPID LAUNCH BAYS!
WOOOOOOO!
Doesn't that just mean moving your capital ship into position where it can be blown up before letting those BWings loose? I'm guessing the correct choice here would be an Assault Frigate?
I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.
RAPID LAUNCH BAYS!
WOOOOOOO!
Doesn't that just mean moving your capital ship into position where it can be blown up before letting those BWings loose? I'm guessing the correct choice here would be an Assault Frigate?
Or Rieekan.
I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.
RAPID LAUNCH BAYS!
WOOOOOOO!
Doesn't that just mean moving your capital ship into position where it can be blown up before letting those BWings loose? I'm guessing the correct choice here would be an Assault Frigate?
Or an MC80 with Engine Techs.
And Flight Commander.
Or an MC80 with Engine Techs.
And Flight Commander.
I think this would almost have to be the combination.
Thanks Eggzavier for having my nerd back.
Loving the modern day aircraft references. In the UK until a few years ago though, every role would have been taken up by some form of Tornado. Super power my a$$...
E-Wings are to X-Wings what F-22s are to F-15s.
Think of the Y-Wings as a F-111. A slower, older, fighter/bomber (but mostly bomber).
A-Wings are your F-16. Fast and up in your face.
F-15s are the old air superiority fighter (along with the Navy's F14). That's the X-Wing role - fight to the target while escorting the slower Y-Wings (F111s)
The E-Wings are all about speed and hitting your target from a distance. They don't want you to even get off a shot. That's the F22.
Personally I think this is a fantastic analogy. If I may continue it,
Z-95 - F-5
- Swarmy, kind of inconsistent
A-wing - F-16
- Fast, light, but still capable
TIE Fighter - MiG-21
- Eighty gazillion of these things will ruin anyone's day, ask the Romanians
TIE Interceptor - MiG-29
- Superior version of the TIE Fighter, but still pretty reliant on numbers to gain the upper hand
TIE Advanced - Su-27
- The Flanker is deadlier than this suggests, but I figured the lagging electronics made this appropriate
TIE Bomber - F-105/A-7/Su-24
- No good modern tactical bombers besides the A-10, and this is no BUFF or other strategic bomber
TIE Defender - Su-34/35 (Strong case either way, depends if you value superfighter or multi-role more)
- Extremely powerful conventional superfighter that wants to mix it up with you (contrast E-wing/F-22 you're dead before you get a shot)
TIE Phantom - MiG-35 (All the stealths are already taken)
- Another deadly superfighter, but less raw brawler than the high-end Sukhoi
HWK-290 - EA-6
- EW all the way to the target
Jumpmaster 5000 - EF-111
- Same as the HWK, but faster
And I haven't got the faintest clue how to handle the other R & V and Strategic squadrons. Most are close to heavy bombers (e.g. YV-666 is B-52, YT-2400 is a B-1R), but that doesn't fit the plethora of anti-squad armament (or its presence at all in most cases). Maybe tomorrow I'll rehash this in WW2 terms, depends if I remember to get around to it.
For me, Corran Horn is worth every penny in my Rieekan Aces list. He just sits back next to Jan and Ketsu Onyo and snipes whoever he wants with impunity as they can't run away due to Ketsu. Once the squads are farmed, he then gets to go on bombing runs with the Trench Boys and have some fun!
Which is why I consider E-wings to be a Low Investment Bomber and Shadow Caster to be a low investment escort. They do the role quite well without duping as many points into Y-wings YT-1300 and Jan Ors.
I was making a joke at how it was designed to replace the other fighters but never did anything well. So hard to get a B-Wing onto its target, though.I see the B-wing as the A-10 Warthog.
Slow, tough, and when it finally sees it's ground target BZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTT!
RAPID LAUNCH BAYS!
WOOOOOOO!
I saw the b-wing as the armageddon. Now I see them as an imminent armageddon.
Edited by ovinomanc3rBaha. F-111s were only "Fighters" for Australians. For the US, they were just Strategic Bombers.
But I miss the ol' Pig. A lot.
Was what I trained to fly, after all... Seeing them finally retired broke my heart.
Pretty sure only the Us flew the f-111. And it was nothing but a bomber, only was given the F to fool russia
Baha. F-111s were only "Fighters" for Australians. For the US, they were just Strategic Bombers.
But I miss the ol' Pig. A lot.
Was what I trained to fly, after all... Seeing them finally retired broke my heart.
Pretty sure only the Us flew the f-111. And it was nothing but a bomber, only was given the F to fool russia
You, my friend, are very, very Incorrect.
It was originally designed as a Tactical Nuclear Bomber.
However, after selling surplus stock to Australia (who used it for many years, including outfitting it with new Avionics to allow it to utilise AIM-7, AIM-9, and in Testing 42(!) AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles as a "Missiler" Variant slaved to a Hawkeye AWAC) it had a very distinguished Service... Unfortunately, it was retired a few years ago, breaking the 2-Frame (F-111, F/A-18) System that Australia had since about the 70s.... At the moment, we're still running F/A018 Superhornets in the Dual Role, until (eventually) the JSF is delivered in appropriate numbers.
It was never really "Suitable" for an Air-Combat Role, but it was at the very least, minimally capable under the Avionics upgrades.
There are even "Legends" passed around Red-Flag games where an Australian F-111 scored a kill-shot on an American F-16 pilot, who was given a choice of engagement between the '111 and a British Tornado, and decided to go for the Tornado because the '111 was not a Threat.
But again, its a Pilots Legend, rather than something that's verifyable fact.
Edited by Drasnighta
*cough*
So, about E-wings though.
If you're going to take at least one E-Wing, should you make space to take Corran?
Depends.
Corran is great as a one-off Ewing, both because of Rogue to not require squad activation (or hera) and the 4die Snipe is usually the deciding factor in 1shotting a squadron. First game i used him i faced the Interceptor snipers and i sniped it dead first try lol. If youre not going to dedicate Hera to a pair of Ewings or someone using Squad Dials to activate them so they can move + shoot (really hard to get their shots off otherwise), get Corran and thats it. I dont think hes worth it though if youre going to dedicate yourself to the Ewing strat since hes rather pricy.
I have some in the list i'm playing tonight. Two stands plus Corran and the Ghost. And some Z-95s to run interference.
Worked decently, considering how inept I am. My opponent only had 4 Interceptors and Fett. The Ghost had to peel of to finish off an ISD leaving the generic E-wings to finish killing Interceptors. Corran took care of Fett over two turns (with minor AA help from the Torpedo Frigate). I brought some stuff to make the bomber portion better late game...and that didn't work so well. I think they managed one bomber hit in several turns of trying. Still, I'd try it again. The E-Wings did make short work of the Interceptors and the Z-95s were great at tying them up.
Got to play a match on Sunday with the new E-Wings. I was pretty impressed with them. Dash Rendar and a generic E-Wing squadron went point-blank with an ISD with fighter support, not only bloodied the ISD's nose but managed to survive for over 2 rounds while the rest of my fleet took care of a Victory battle-line. Corran Horn with rogue makes for all sort of sneaky fun 
They feel like an unexceptional 15 points. Which is exactly bow everything non-unique should feel.
I've had one game with them, but have 2 in my CC fleet. I used snipe more than I thought. The initial contact was underwhelming because my opponent kept his squads in range but on obstacles. So Snipe 2 was underwhelming. Once in combat, I cleared out the squads touching them first and was able to use Snipe 3 effectively. I have Hera too and she really only helped the Ewings in the first round of combat. They didnt move much after that.
"What's going on in this thread?"
I have Corran, Hera, 3x e wings, 2 hwks and an x wing in my cc fleet right now. My thoughts were to use hera to make two of the e wings rogue so I had three rogue snipers every activation, and use the hwk's to pull them out of battle to snipe whom I needed. With a little practice, I think it might work. I managed to kill a Jendon shuttle last night before it got to use any Mareke duble shot shenanigans, or any relay tactics.
Hera compliments Ewings wonderfully. Like i said earlier, Ewings w/o Rogue or Squad Activate are really hard to use.
HWK or Jan around is also great so they can back off to snipe rather than stay engaged.
Have anyone used Corran and Talon as a combo?
Activate in ships phase, boom four shots at distance 2. Deactivate.
Activate in squad phase, boom another four shots at distance 2.
And to tie down the other sqds, with A-wings.