Starting January 23rd we've got a new map! Let's discuss how you think it will effect the very raw meta after Jabba's Realm release and the new Points-For-Kills rule change.

What do you think? Will this help any particular lists?

Thanks to Ibsh for the map (this is a scaled down version) hosted elsewhere so we don't over-tax his server.

My thought on both scenarios is that they're interact heavy so if you want to score VPs you're going to want cheap units with quick movement speed. The Alliance Smuggler is probably the best for this while Obi is a great defense against it.

The Gaining Favor scenario is interesting because you get only a few VPs per interact until you get 3 and particularly 4 patrons with your token. Getting 1 or 2 patrons isn't going to be particularly worth it unless you have a spare action during a figures activation (eg they already attacked and don't want to move). It's also interesting that both player can gain favor on the same patrons, but you can prevent your opponent from interacting by preventing them from controlling a patron (because you're vying for control).

The Line of Fire scenario tasks you with brining crates from one side of the map to the other, but you can sacrifice HPs of the box for bonus defense while you're carying it at a cost of loosing VP if you turn it in. Since the crates are worth 10 points if undamaged and less as they take more damage, I think it's rare that you will score many points from completing this objective. However, it could be very useful to pick up a crate with a figure you want to have a defensive bonus as 5 defense spread over 2+ attacks is pretty meaningful assuming you weren't planning to attack anyway.

Both scenarios will likely feature lots of brawling in the center cross and two large plates (where the crates are placed) as the terminals are situated in the middle. The right hand terminal is 10 spaces from both starting areas while the left is 5 spaces but includes a door that must be opened (with an interact not shot). So it's likely most battles will end up as big brawls with many figures killed and figures with the Brawler type will probably be happy here.

Both deployment zones seem pretty equal in my first read, the blue one might be slightly better if you've got long ranged units as they can shoot down the hallway into your opponents deployment zone (assuming the doors are open) while the opposite is not true.

Both deployment zones also offer deep nooks where you can drop Jabba without worrying about any enemies getting line of sight to him, so he's likely to be a potent figure here.

That bend in the red deployment zone is in contention for Best Jabba Hiding Spot Ever.

Darn it, they're changing right before our regionals on the 28th ... and I had just picked up the Nelvannian War Zone map in November. Used it once.

They just changed the rotation right before Worlds in November ... rotating too fast.

Grrr.

Ugh two threads two minutes apart... Consolidate?

Are all of the tiles in this map from the core?

We're starting a league this weekend and some of our players are new and don't have all the tiles.

Are all of the tiles in this map from the core?

We're starting a league this weekend and some of our players are new and don't have all the tiles.

Looks like it. All I see is the little helmet.

Are all of the tiles in this map from the core?

The included skirmish map Anchorhead Bar only uses tiles from the core box.

Also Side note - why the name change from Bar to Cantina? all the cards say Bar... it's going to confuse people.

Also Side note - why the name change from Bar to Cantina? all the cards say Bar... it's going to confuse people.

I wondered about that too. Are bars too 'adult oriented' or is just a flavor thing that in Star Wars they don't have bars, they have Cantinas?

Guessing Disney/Lucas Films requested the change to align with the cannon.

Don't crates count for two vp per point of health left so a max of ten not five?

That being said, the crates are all between like 11-14 spaces from the extraction zone if I remember right. Which makes it awfully hard to turn them in. I'd say 3P0 might never make a box to the extraction zone.

On the other mission, would obi wan neutralize patrons that have been interacted with while he's within the limits of his ability? And I'd imagine that both teams can have favor with the same patrons. Assuming control at some point. But back and forth taking of the patrons would be more interesting in my opinion.

The crates are worth 10 points undamaged, which is decent, but I doubt people will even bother picking them up most of the time.

Maybe you could make a list specialized in delivering them, though.

The other scenario seems like a pretty standard all-out brawl for the points in the middle. Whoever tips the scales first will most likely jump ahead in points massively. If you do get your 20 points though, you're encouraged to then play defensively as soon as you're ahead on kill points.

Don't crates count for two vp per point of health left so a max of ten not five?

That being said, the crates are all between like 11-14 spaces from the extraction zone if I remember right. Which makes it awfully hard to turn them in. I'd say 3P0 might never make a box to the extraction zone.

On the other mission, would obi wan neutralize patrons that have been interacted with while he's within the limits of his ability? And I'd imagine that both teams can have favor with the same patrons. Assuming control at some point. But back and forth taking of the patrons would be more interesting in my opinion.

Agreed it's pretty hard to turn the Crates in.

I think 'Bribed' Patrons continue to count even if Obi is around later since they have your token on them still. Both teams can bribe the same patrons.

Well, maybe if you have some 5 speed guys, you can grab one and position yourself within 10 spaces to just zoom it on in next turn. Unsure if that will be viable or not though.

Don't crates count for two vp per point of health left so a max of ten not five?

That being said, the crates are all between like 11-14 spaces from the extraction zone if I remember right. Which makes it awfully hard to turn them in. I'd say 3P0 might never make a box to the extraction zone.

On the other mission, would obi wan neutralize patrons that have been interacted with while he's within the limits of his ability? And I'd imagine that both teams can have favor with the same patrons. Assuming control at some point. But back and forth taking of the patrons would be more interesting in my opinion.

I only suggest C3P0 because he can't attack... he'll never turn it in with his slow movement but it's just a pure defensive tactic for him (or Gideon). I wasn't suggesting C3PO should do the delivery.

As for Obi-wan. He would stop you control and interacting but he won't stop the points if it's already happened.

What's amazing here is that Obi-wan stops people controlling the Patrons, which means an opponent can be controlling it, then you walk up and interact even though the opponent is still adjacent (assuming it's a low cost figure of course).

There is one square where Obi-wan can stand where he blocks control to 3 of the Patrons at once.

He can also stand in the to room with all the crates and stop any low cost figures picking them up at all. And you'll never want high cost figures to pick them up because they can't attack. Again, except for dewbacks and Banthas (and I guess a tamed rancor).

Don't crates count for two vp per point of health left so a max of ten not five?

That being said, the crates are all between like 11-14 spaces from the extraction zone if I remember right. Which makes it awfully hard to turn them in. I'd say 3P0 might never make a box to the extraction zone.

On the other mission, would obi wan neutralize patrons that have been interacted with while he's within the limits of his ability? And I'd imagine that both teams can have favor with the same patrons. Assuming control at some point. But back and forth taking of the patrons would be more interesting in my opinion.

I only suggest C3P0 because he can't attack... he'll never turn it in with his slow movement but it's just a pure defensive tactic for him (or Gideon). I wasn't suggesting C3PO should do the delivery.

As for Obi-wan. He would stop you control and interacting but he won't stop the points if it's already happened.

What's amazing here is that Obi-wan stops people controlling the Patrons, which means an opponent can be controlling it, then you walk up and interact even though the opponent is still adjacent (assuming it's a low cost figure of course).

There is one square where Obi-wan can stand where he blocks control to 3 of the Patrons at once.

He can also stand in the to room with all the crates and stop any low cost figures picking them up at all. And you'll never want high cost figures to pick them up because they can't attack. Again, except for dewbacks and Banthas (and I guess a tamed rancor).

3P0 control! Now he's really hard to kill no ones gonna score that crate. I like it. Good potential

And Obi just sounds ridiculously annoying on this map.

This map seems like it will need a lot of testing. Right before regionals :-/

Not sorry to see Leia's map go though. I'm intrigued by this one, but it certainly will play differently. Not a lot of hanging back and sniping, methinks. Rancor and Jedi Luke should cause some wreckage here, both going down in a blaze of glory.

-ryanjamal

Darn it, they're changing right before our regionals on the 28th ... and I had just picked up the Nelvannian War Zone map in November. Used it once.

They just changed the rotation right before Worlds in November ... rotating too fast.

Grrr.

Granted it is probably old text in the document from when that happened, but people do realize that it says STARTING november 1st anchorhead will be in the rotation right? AKA the beginning of next regional season. Now that seems like a long time out to be announcing it, and they very well could have forgotten to change the date, but until they do the intention has to be interpreted as not changing this until the next season.

The date is the exact date of the last update. It's definitely a typo.

Elite Alliance Smugglers might be interesting for crate pick up with their extra movement.

They confirmed it was a typo on Twitter.

-ryanjamal

On a side note, anyone else think that this is the oddest cantina/bar they have ever seen? Rock conveyor belts, droid repair, furnaces, etc... Apparently none of the cantinas in the Star Wars universe can afford doors as well.

Are all of the tiles in this map from the core?

We're starting a league this weekend and some of our players are new and don't have all the tiles.

Yes, but the piece numbers are wrong. Add 31B and remove the second 32B and 34B.

Are all of the tiles in this map from the core?

Yes. This is the map from Obi-Wan's pack. All content from his pack is playable with just the core set.

That bend in the red deployment zone is in contention for Best Jabba Hiding Spot Ever.

Exactly my first thought!