I'd have thought Ahsoka alone might be enough to help Rebels out, though in all honesty I don't believe they as a faction need to be 'helped' - since the death of the Torpedo Boats Rebels have been doing just fine, from what I can tell.

As in every wave, the things that seem scary and game-changing now probably won't be by the time we get them on the table - theorising in advance will never replicate the tabletop. Boba Fett crew is a good example, as is Quickdraw (firing in the Activation phase whaaaa?).

I'd worry about it when Wave 10 hits, and not before.

Bombing K-Wings and laught when the blinded pilots can still kill them with mines. Especially the large base Decimators that can't help but eat all of the tokens!

Good God. Then you have to own and play with three K-Wings...

Bombing K-Wings and laught when the blinded pilots can still kill them with mines. Especially the large base Decimators that can't help but eat all of the tokens!

Good God. Then you have to own and play with three K-Wings...

IT'S FUN TO PLAY WITH THE

THREE
BOMB
ING Ks

There is in Rouge 2

I don't know if you are doing this on purpose to troll people like me, or if you genuinly don't realize, BUT DEAR GOD MAN IT'S ROGUE NOT ROUGE.

The word is also 'genuinely', not genuinly.

Spelling can get off when you're on pain meds that induce drowsiness . Rogue vs. Rouge really stands out and bothers me though .

Stress bot and blocking. The real question is how will the other factions deal with it.

Rebels have it easy.

Stressbot doesn't work sadly. Round 1 engagement happens as follows:

Stressbot moves, takes action

RAC Moves, takes Kylo action on stressbot, selects blinded pilot

RAC shoots, pushes blinded pilot onto stressbot

Stressbot skips attack due to blinded pilot

Stressbot cannot double stress RAC to prevent further actions

(and then you repeat the next turn, and on the 3rd turn he dies before he can shoot)

I suppose it "works" in that your 26 point Gold Squadron is getting the attention of Kylo instead of your 40pt ace, but a 26pt meat shield to counteract a 3pt upgrade + action doesn't seem like a good trade.

Actually, they have first to kill biggs then to kill your stress but, most likely stramm and then ... well then your ace is already in the endgame. If people want to be concerned about Kylo Ren, they should be concerned about a highly mobile Palp shuttle which will force aces to target something else because Kylo Ren is just the shuttle boy for Palpatine. This ability gets not shut down by stress, nor by blocking and the ship attacking the shuttle first will get a first hand dark side experience. .

I still think Captain Rex pilot is going to be the dark horse of the wave.

Rex with the title and Hotshot Blaster.

Biggs

Kanan with Fire Control System Rey and maybe Recon Specialist

Fill out to taste. Fly Biggs and Rex together at all times, have Kanan flank or join the others as needed. Drop an attack on Biggs by two dice and have Kannan take other shots as he can. Use the 4 dice primary on the Ghost and some sort of offensive crew on Rex to deal the damage.

Against two ships it would be incredible, 3 or 4 ships you start to lose your effectiveness, and swarms would be the death of it. But the prevailing though at the moment is that no one plays swarms, so you should be good.

I would like to point out to all of the K-Wing/Biggs advisors (while these are valid amswers to the Kylo problem) they do not answer the OPs problem about Rebel Aces.

I would like to point out to all of the K-Wing/Biggs advisors (while these are valid amswers to the Kylo problem) they do not answer the OPs problem about Rebel Aces.

actually, Biggs is the answer about Kylo v Rebel Aces

because Kylo's hitting Biggs first

that's kinda the whole point

I would like to point out to all of the K-Wing/Biggs advisors (while these are valid amswers to the Kylo problem) they do not answer the OPs problem about Rebel Aces.

actually, Biggs is the answer about Kylo v Rebel Aces

because Kylo's hitting Biggs first

that's kinda the whole point

Fair enough as long as you don't loathe that non-ace 26 point tax.

I would like to point out to all of the K-Wing/Biggs advisors (while these are valid amswers to the Kylo problem) they do not answer the OPs problem about Rebel Aces.

actually, Biggs is the answer about Kylo v Rebel Aces

because Kylo's hitting Biggs first

that's kinda the whole point

Fair enough as long as you don't loathe that non-ace 26 point tax.

just means you love Kylo Ren

I would like to point out to all of the K-Wing/Biggs advisors (while these are valid amswers to the Kylo problem) they do not answer the OPs problem about Rebel Aces.

actually, Biggs is the answer about Kylo v Rebel Aces

because Kylo's hitting Biggs first

that's kinda the whole point

Fair enough as long as you don't loathe that non-ace 26 point tax.

just means you love Kylo Ren

I suppose. I'm not a fan of the semi-mandatory Biggs. But it's better than nothing.

hey, that's what we get for not dealing with the great game design that is the PWT

else you could've just aced your way around kylo

alternatively, just bring spare aces

I think the Space Tractor tug thing will be much worse than Kylo. Yes Kylo can deal out some nasty crits but like others have said at least there is counter play. The space tractor just rolls up and BOOM you are now landing on that rock you were supposed to be flying around and you can't attack. Plus you have -1 defense. This is definitely shaping up to be my least favorite wave though. Unblockable crits and getting to move an opponents ship before they do...Not fun.

hey, that's what we get for not dealing with the great game design that is the PWT

else you could've just aced your way around kylo

alternatively, just bring spare aces

That's how I do it Fickle, that's how I do it. Is Kylo's shuttle a PWT?

Make eight Z-95s feel like one hundred.

Rebel Captured Tie

"No previous signs of nonconformity..."

Bombing K-Wings and laught when the blinded pilots can still kill them with mines. Especially the large base Decimators that can't help but eat all of the tokens!

Good God. Then you have to own and play with three K-Wings...

Did so from day 1 I believe (having only played one game with the list, though) that replacing one K with a U-Wing can work as well to at least create an adequate list.

Make eight Z-95s feel like one hundred.

Like ...

2x Bandit Squadron + concussion missiles + guidance chip

4x Tala squadron + concussion missiles + guidance chip

That's how I do it Fickle, that's how I do it. Is Kylo's shuttle a PWT?

No, but a decimator with him on board is.

Ultimately, he's an issue if you want to use a list built on 2 aces - because losing a shot with one of them is catastrophic. But there are ways around it.

Play Rebel swarms or Chewbacca until they notice that the usage of Rebel lists haven fallen to 10% at competitive tournaments?

Rebel Swarms aren't necessarily bad - and are about to get a nice shot in the arm at the same time with Sabine's TIE - you can do a rather nice analogue to the old TIE all-stars with the named rebel TIE and Z-95 pilots.

Chewbacca is hardly a bad pilot, and his immunity to criticals helps against a lot more than just I'll show you the dark side.

Determination Elite doesn't seem to be a valid solution, because it literally blocks your eliteskill, which would be important to use something like Predator, Push the Limit or Veteran Instincts.

Not for an A-wing Test Pilot, it doesn't. With only 2 hull, they're probably the most vulnerable to nasty tricks like this - Rage/Determination Tycho, for example, won't break the bank and can point and laugh at Kylo.

Ultimately, R3-A2 is going to remain a key tool for rebels. Kylo's crew card, as noted, is an action, so stress, or collisions, can shut it down.

If Kylo becomes a thing, then I'd be hesitant to use arc dodgers without determination, unless you think you can reliably avoid a gunner/rear admiral chiraneau shot, and unmanouvrable 'big guns' like the lothal rebel are a bit vulnerable too.

That's how I do it Fickle, that's how I do it. Is Kylo's shuttle a PWT?

No, but a decimator with him on board is.

Ultimately, he's an issue if you want to use a list built on 2 aces - because losing a shot with one of them is catastrophic. But there are ways around it.

Play Rebel swarms or Chewbacca until they notice that the usage of Rebel lists haven fallen to 10% at competitive tournaments?

Rebel Swarms aren't necessarily bad - and are about to get a nice shot in the arm at the same time with Sabine's TIE - you can do a rather nice analogue to the old TIE all-stars with the named rebel TIE and Z-95 pilots.

Chewbacca is hardly a bad pilot, and his immunity to criticals helps against a lot more than just I'll show you the dark side.

Determination Elite doesn't seem to be a valid solution, because it literally blocks your eliteskill, which would be important to use something like Predator, Push the Limit or Veteran Instincts.

Not for an A-wing Test Pilot, it doesn't. With only 2 hull, they're probably the most vulnerable to nasty tricks like this - Rage/Determination Tycho, for example, won't break the bank and can point and laugh at Kylo.

Ultimately, R3-A2 is going to remain a key tool for rebels. Kylo's crew card, as noted, is an action, so stress, or collisions, can shut it down.

If Kylo becomes a thing, then I'd be hesitant to use arc dodgers without determination, unless you think you can reliably avoid a gunner/rear admiral chiraneau shot, and unmanouvrable 'big guns' like the lothal rebel are a bit vulnerable too.

As always I am impressed Fickle. Yeah he really would mess with a pair of aces, Corran/Dash is one I can think ofboff the top of my head. Still he certainly doesn't seem like an unbeatable monster, even on a deacimator. One thing rebels have going for them is stress attacks, between R3-A2, Flechettes, Tactician, and the classic stress hog, they do well at stressing or even double stressing Kylo's ship. Combine that with their big guns to hel chew through low agility high hull ships, and I think they can take him.

As always I am impressed Fickle.

I really need to change my Avatar or something...

As always I am impressed Fickle.

I really need to change my Avatar or something...

At least now there is only the two of you left and the other option for confusion would have been a bit worse, wouldn't it? FFG really need to at least add new X-Wing avatars even if they don't want to reenable the old ones.

Some TIE/fo avatars would be nice.

Arc avatars plz