It did happen! Scum Epic!

By RogueLeader42, in X-Wing

Scum are criminals and not to be trusted.

All criminals are scum (even presidents-elect). Not all scum are criminals.

*grumble grumble*

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Btw:

So awesome you can aöready find the cards in the black online squad builder. Thumbs up to the guy working on that. It never failed me

So this is the small Epic for Scum.

I'd be very sasd if the big Epics won't be the Wild Karrde :/

Also: Is there a Jabba card in the fan?

I would not cal Talon Kaarde "scum". Like Han, Lando, Dash and others he is a good guy.

S&V = dirty bad guys

Empire = clean bad guys

Rebels = good guys

Han and lando ARE rebels. They're both generals in return of the Jedi. Talon marred isnt actually part of the new republic, he just helps em out occasionally but is firmly his own organization

He isn't the same as Greedo. Or Boba Fett. Or Jabba.

He also isn't on Grand Admiral Thrawn's side.

A good scum from the same source: Niles Ferrier. Not Kaarde.

What about fenn rau? He may have been antagonistic to start, but he's been helping the rebels now. Still a scum card.

Or palob: "played a major role in the Tethan resistance against the Galactic Empire." And have the moldy crow to the rebellion.

Ndru was a hunt saboteur (so the exact opposite of a bounty hunter) and WAS a. Rebel at one point.

Emon azzameen assisted the rebels and I would argue is in a similar situation to talon karrde.

S&V is not just "dirty bad guys". Its just people that aren't part of the empire or rebellion

Nope. Just dirty bad guys.

The name comes from Obi Wan's warning to Luke, no doubt.

Scum are criminals and not to be trusted.

My guess:

New hard cannon with reload time (weapon disabled function)

Furthermore:

PS1 Scyk does not neccessarily have to be cheaper than 12 points. Sometimes PS1 is better than PS2. But I also thing the PS1 will be some unique pilot with interesting ability (useful with his PS1)

And:

Maybe new debris field with new rule

If the PS1 pilot has a blocking based ability, then he could be pretty good.

Not viper :(

The only Relevent crew spoiled seems EXCEPTIONALLY troll and hilarious for use in games

Unless he allows your stim large base take cloaking device im which case woe is us

Hopefully the restriction holds in his case too

Oh dear god, Vizago's going to be fantastic with the cloaking device unless they FAQ this.

1) Take cloak action.

2) At the start of the End phase, replace the Cloaking Device with a Feedback Array.

3) At the end of the round, you have no Cloaking Device card to discard when you roll an eyeball.

You'd never roll the eyeball if you swapped out the card. I'm pretty sure that only the HWK and the G1-A can pull this off as you need a small ship with a crew and illicit slot. With all of the awesome Scum crew available, it seems like a fair trade.

This would let you cloak a ship and then switch the illicit out for another Illicit if you just plan on leaving the ship cloaked the whole game.

Surely this isn't going to be the case - there's no cloaking device to keep you cloaked ... you're going to de-cloak when you remove the upgrade.

You never need to decloak Palob. Just keep him at agi 4 till the day he dies.

What are the two sets of 5 cards?

Maybe one is a cargo upgrade that grants an illicit slot.

Seems like they might be more Syck fixes, though. Five of them! Each!

What are the two sets of 5 cards?

Maybe one is a cargo upgrade that grants an illicit slot.

Seems like they might be more Syck fixes, though. Five of them! Each!

I'm thinking new mods or other upgrade for Epic ships. The average collector of epic ships probably only has one of each. With this being the 5th ship, it makes sense to have one of each of these upgrades for each epic ship.

What are the two sets of 5 cards?

Maybe one is a cargo upgrade that grants an illicit slot.

Seems like they might be more Syck fixes, though. Five of them! Each!

Other Scyk cards would be interesting, as they would pretty much have to work with either the naked Scyk, or they'd be made to work with the Heavy Scyk title. Or both?

The other thing to keep in mind: the previous Epic ship- the Gozanti- came with a bunch of "fix" cards for epic ships. To the point where I would literally tell anyone wanting to get into Epic to get a Gozanti first. The 3 Huge-only mods are a pretty good patch for the very real issues that each Huge ship faces. Likewise, Ordnance Experts is a nice buff to Ordnance in the Epic game. And "shield technician" makes "recover" work the way I think it should have from the beginning.

So those 2 sets of 5 cards could very well be more Epic ship fixes. Or maybe one Epic ship fix and one new option for the Scyk?

With the wording in the closing section about dealing in illicit goods, contraband and moving same, really hope the new campaign introduces some 'freighting' scenarios and procedures, that can maybe be extended into user-defined scenarios in Mission Control... :rolleyes:

...since the implication is that the campaign can be played against either of the other two factions, seems it's gotta be fairly flexible...although might have thought they would set it up so you could also play scum vs scum ? :unsure:

With all of the title card stat line changes, I almost wonder if FFG is trying to get even with the Squad Builder app developers...

Edited by balindamood

I was really hoping they were going to kind of let Epic ships fade into nothingness. At least its just the M-3 ship and not the Starviper so I don;t have to feel compelled to even pay attention to it.

What? Why?!

I SEE JABBA!!!

With all of the title card stat line changes, I almost wonder if FFG is trying to get even with the Squad Builder app developers...

Eh, they're pretty easy fixes so far. Heavy scyk was a 1-line change in the data files to make it add the 1 hull when you equip it. Though I don't think I ever got around to updating the text to reflect the change...I should go check that.

I was really hoping they were going to kind of let Epic ships fade into nothingness. At least its just the M-3 ship and not the Starviper so I don;t have to feel compelled to even pay attention to it.

What? Why?!

Because he's anti-fun and doesn't want us to have nice things, obviously.

I was really hoping they were going to kind of let Epic ships fade into nothingness. At least its just the M-3 ship and not the Starviper so I don;t have to feel compelled to even pay attention to it.

What? Why?!

Still bitter about the Emperor and Advanced Targeting Computer coming in the raider, I presume.

"Additionally, the expansion includes a new campaign for Cinematic Play in which your C-ROC draws the ire of either the Galactic Empire or Rebel Alliance."

Finally! X-Wing campaign hype!

As has been noted, the other huge ships also featured campaigns (though they're really just series of three loosely-connected games).

Which is still a far cry from a proper campaign like Armada gets with the Corellian Conflict pack: a sector map with twenty locations of differing resources, six campgaign-specific objectives, rules for multi-player coordinated fleet actions, campaign-specific strategic resources (like spynets and diplomats), and rules for ships/sqauadrons attaining veteran or scarred status.

Interested to see what those upgrades with five copies of each are. Could be more scum buffs.

The title cards (old and new)

There is 1 Heavy Scyk card there. Hopefully, it is with the new text.

But why just one?

And it looks like Jabba The Hutt will finally arrive to the game.

There is 1 Heavy Scyk card there. Hopefully, it is with the new text.

Yeah, it has the updated text. I'm guessing as an update of an existing card it wasn't as high a priority as adding new options.

So the real question is:

What have they in mind to keep people from putting Zuckuss on this thing?

Unless something insane pops up i fully expect Dengar + Zuckuss on this thing (no 4LOM since you'd hurt your energy gen)

4die turret with a donut and no range3 benefit thats immune to stress. The fact that huge ships have a history of mod problems i expect at least Zuckuss so at least your defense isnt as good

Edited by Vineheart01

I don't play Scum, but this looks so awesome for that faction. I wonder what those new pilots will do? And Wampa will have fun with the 'light Scyk' title. This giant ship looks like a mix between the Gozanti and Jabba's barge.

... so Scum Aces will be Khiraxz & Starviper then ... due sometime soontm.

Edited by Vordyn

More than likely if we get Scum Aces it would be the Viper/Kfighter yea i'd agree.

Probably in third quarter if we get it at all this year.

So this is the small Epic for Scum.

I'd be very sasd if the big Epics won't be the Wild Karrde :/

I'd be kind of surprised if Scum gets another 'Epic' anytime soon, if at all. My understanding is that sales of the Huge ships have always been weak, so not a priority for FFG. But Scum needed at least one, so...

They're get another, I'm sure of it. All factions should have an Epic Support and Epic Attack ship. (2 and 3 pointers). Scum's got their Epic Support now, so they're get their Epic Attack next. It would be unfair otherwise!

There is 1 Heavy Scyk card there. Hopefully, it is with the new text.

But why just one?

Just one, because if you're playing in a tournament, your old title card is considered to have the new text. If you're buying a brand new M3-A expansion, they're all going to have the new title text. And if you are getting your first M3-A in the C-ROC pack, it's got enough copies of the old title to fill your new ship.

The assumption is that you've already got a few M3-As, however, so they're giving you a few copies of the new title to give you enough to hopefully cover what you need.

So the real question is:

What have they in mind to keep people from putting Zuckuss on this thing?

Unless something insane pops up i fully expect Dengar + Zuckuss on this thing (no 4LOM since you'd hurt your energy gen)

4die turret with a donut and no range3 benefit thats immune to stress. The fact that huge ships have a history of mod problems i expect at least Zuckuss so at least your defense isnt as good

Well, basically what they're going to do is errata the Zuckuss card to read "Huge Ship Only, Scum Only"...