Hey all, I have a few questions about the rules of the game. While I may know the answers to some, I am mainly asking on behalf of my group. We've had some contention on the interpretation of some rules.

First, if a Mythos event says you suffer 2 horror and 2 damage, and the player rolls 3 saves, which remaining 1 does he receive?

Second, can Sister Mary convert her own rolls to successes?

If a player moves 1 space, and examines a clue, can he examine another clue on his space, or can he only continue to move 1 more space? Also, How does this effect Rita since she can move 3 spaces?

When starting a trade and swapping items, do both players involved lose an action?

Can push a willing player twice in one turn? (I've had players form Congo lines to push one player across a map.)

Hi

First, if a Mythos event says you suffer 2 horror and 2 damage, and the player rolls 3 saves, which remaining 1 does he receive?

The players choice.

Second, can Sister Mary convert her own rolls to successes?

Her ability specifies "another" so no.

If a player moves 1 space, and examines a clue, can he examine another clue on his space, or can he only continue to move 1 more space? Also, How does this effect Rita since she can move 3 spaces?

Short answer is no to the 2nd token. A player gets two actions. One action gives you two movement which you can interrupt in the middle to perform your second action. Since searching is also an action, and you already spent one action on movement, you have no other actions to spend. Rita can move, investigate a token and still has 2 moves left. Sometimes it best to think of using the action for move as adding move points to your move pool that you can then expend this turn.

When starting a trade and swapping items, do both players involved lose an action?

Just the one whose turn it is.

Can push a willing player twice in one turn? (I've had players form Congo lines to push one player across a map.)

Yes.

Thank you for the reply.

Another question, if I may.

When the app says,

"Suffer 2 Facedown Damage and 2 Horror."

In this statement, are the Horrors also facedown?

Thank you for the reply.

Another question, if I may.

When the app says,

"Suffer 2 Facedown Damage and 2 Horror."

In this statement, are the Horrors also facedown?

While I can certainly see how you would interpret the sentence to mean both are dealt face down, I am certain this is not the case.

The Horror are face up, as it did not specifically state that they are face down as well.

Thank you for the reply.

Another question, if I may.

When the app says,

"Suffer 2 Facedown Damage and 2 Horror."

In this statement, are the Horrors also facedown?

While I can certainly see how you would interpret the sentence to mean both are dealt face down, I am certain this is not the case.

The Horror are face up, as it did not specifically state that they are face down as well.

I believe this is correct also. Damage and Horror are always dealt face up (the worst case scenario) unless otherwise specified.

Indeed, Horror is dealt faceup in this case (othewise it'd be spelled out clearly; also, "facedown" comes after the first "2": had both been facedown, it'd have been "deal facedown 2 Damage and 2 Horror")

Thanks again. One more question.

How far does a monster move on its turn?

Sometimes the app will say "Monster moves 2 spaces toward the nearest investigate and attacks."

But if I click, "No investigators in range"

It then says "Monster moves 2 spaces..."

Does that mean a total of 4 spaces?

I ask because I have noticed that a Star Spawn will specifically state that if no one is in range it moves an ADDITIONAL space. While a Deep One may not receive any additional text after saying no one is in range.

It means that:

a) you check whether there is an investigator within 2 spaces. Then:

IF

a = YES, move the monster 2 spaces towards that investigator and attack (doesn't need to be on the same space of that investigator)

ELSE (i.e. a = NO)

move the monster 2 spaces

the two conditions are alternate conditions, either the monster moves and attacks, or the monster just moves.

Just follow the instructions on the app and you'll be fine

Hmmmm, I guess I've been doing it wrong. I would have moved the monster 2 spaces and, finding no investigator in range for a melee attack, would have moved it an additional 2 spaces.

interesting. Most of the threads on BGG came to the opposite conclusion.

Ya I've always been playing it that you would just move him in the first action, but if we look at this like I do RTL then Julia is right.. it is just a bit more tricky because you don't see all of the actions at once in MOM.

Depends, could also be the other one. Does the app ask you to check and do either A or B, or does the app tell you to move and then do either B or C? It's not clear in the original post (not clear to me, at least)

Depends, could also be the other one. Does the app ask you to check and do either A or B, or does the app tell you to move and then do either B or C? It's not clear in the original post (not clear to me, at least)

Thanks again. One more question.

How far does a monster move on its turn?

Sometimes the app will say "Monster moves 2 spaces toward the nearest investigate and attacks."

But if I click, "No investigators in range"

It then says "Monster moves 2 spaces..."

Does that mean a total of 4 spaces?

I ask because I have noticed that a Star Spawn will specifically state that if no one is in range it moves an ADDITIONAL space. While a Deep One may not receive any additional text after saying no one is in range.

I would say that if it says "moves 2 spaces towards the nearest investigator within range" the monster wouldn't move right away, but if it simply says "moves 2 spaces towards the nearest investigator" you would move the monster, then do what the app says after clicking.

It is hard to say definitively without the exact wording. I could have sworn that I had seen some cases where the app read such that they would move twice, but I played around in the app today and couldn't find any instances of this. Maybe they clarified the verbiage in an app update. As for the wording described by OP in this thread, I agree With Julia.

I noticed that there are now 3 options in the app on a monsters turn.

1. Monster Attacks

2. No investigators in range

3. No investors in the space

If I follow the suggestion here, it now makes a lot more sense.

The app is giving you the preferred method of attack first. And then you must tell the app if this attack is applicable.

The zombie rushes forward 2 spaces toward the nearest investigator IN RANGE. Then, it attacks dealing 2 points of damage. Agility:2 negates.

In this scenario, the app first wants to know if there is an investigator IN RANGE.

Yes? No?

If yes, can the monster get there with those 2 spaces of movement?

Yes? Then choose option 1. The monster attacks as described.

If the investigator is 3 spaces away (in range) but can't be reached, then you'd click option 3. No investigators in the space.

If the are simply no investigators in range of the monster, then you say option 2. No investigators in range. And the app will basically say "OK. Then, the monster just moves 2 spaces toward the NEAREST investigator.”

It is hard to say definitively without the exact wording. I could have sworn that I had seen some cases where the app read such that they would move twice, but I played around in the app today and couldn't find any instances of this. Maybe they clarified the verbiage in an app update. As for the wording described by OP in this thread, I agree With Julia.

I've also seen monsters moving twice. Mostly under circumstances like:

"the monster moves 2 spaces within the nearest investigator"

then

"if there's a investigator in the monster's space, the monster attacks" vs "no investigator in the monster's space"

with the latter triggering an extra movement (IIRC, it's the type of AI Zombies in Dearly Departed use).

I've also seen "monster moves towards the nearest investigator within range" vs "no investigators within range", with the second option triggering a different type of movement.

They really need to clear up the language used and be MUCH more direct.

We had this very discussion yesterday. I strongly agree with Julia's interpretation. Why would "no investigators in range" even be a separate option if it didn't mean something different than the standard "no investigators in space"?

There is a lot of variability in moving options and without precise wording its hard to tell what to do.

Just take your time, read ALL the words out loud and pay special attention to the "in Range" clauses. Also sometimes when you resolve a particular step correctly, nothing happens.