So, having seen the movie three times, the most recent viewing being just 10 or so hours ago, I'm fairly certain that I can safely say Countdown is the TIE Striker that shoots down Gen. Antoc Merrik. Not really a whole lot else to say on the matter, this just looks very much like the moment in the movie where he gets show down. The trailing engine smoke, the impending crash on the beach, etc.
Anyone else able to figure out the other named pilots role in the Battle of Skarif?
The art is terrible.
One day artists will check reference material on how engines work on tie fighters before they just guess and completely screw up what could have otherwise been a perfectly mediocre piece of card art.
he is also the only pilot to have survived the deathstar blast
but he did take a facedown damage
The art is terrible.
One day artists will check reference material on how engines work on tie fighters before they just guess and completely screw up what could have otherwise been a perfectly mediocre piece of card art.
Yeah, I mean to hell with action, composition, implied line and color choice, they put a blue glow there. Terrible, just terrible.
The art is terrible.
One day artists will check reference material on how engines work on tie fighters before they just guess and completely screw up what could have otherwise been a perfectly mediocre piece of card art.
Yeah, I mean to hell with action, composition, implied line and color choice, they put a blue glow there. Terrible, just terrible.
It wouldn't look good even if the engines were where they were supposed to be.
And I think in a miniature game in which detailed, accuracte models are heavily advertised feature it's reasonable to expect the cart art would be accurate at least when it comes to such elementary details.
So maybe I'm just dumb, or the image quality on my phone isn't great, but what's the issue? Genuinely interested!
The blue glow in the image for the engine is in the wrong place. That big circle-y thing in the center of the tie at the back is not the engine. The engines are the two little dots to the sides.
See here for a better explanation:
So the reactor was a little hot...
Left the bathroom light on?
It's the glow from the optics array for the bombardier-oh wait...
So the reactor was a little hot...
It's like ground effect lighting.
All the hip TIE ace pilots are adding them. And spoilers.
its like drawing someones nose where the ear should be.
lets get the nose in the right place then we can worry about the advanced things like composition and implied lines.
The blue glow in the image for the engine is in the wrong place. That big circle-y thing in the center of the tie at the back is not the engine. The engines are the two little dots to the sides.
See here for a better explanation:
It happens a LOT. See also the TIE Mk2 art.
It happens a LOT. See also the TIE Mk2 art.
To be fair there isn't a consensus on the TIE defender. I ran into this issue a lot before. some models place the triple engines inside that ring. (Ie. the thruster arrays over the solar ionization reactor)
for example:
outside:
http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/11/10611/tiedefender_2_2.png
https://nicholassagan.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tiedef43.jpg
inside
http://www.starwarsmodels.com/images/models/tiedf002.jpg
The Mk II engine art, which is here:
http://img06.deviantart.net/99a5/i/2016/068/8/3/twin_ion_engine_mkii_by_ameeeeba-d9ugqvb.jpg
used the old star wars model for reference, you can see from the camber of the wings, I'm guessing ameeeba used this photo for positioning, it's a pretty close match and clearly was a model with the thruster arrays inside the ring of the ionization reactor:
http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/pics/td2.jpg
None of this of course excuses the oversight on the current model for the striker, but you can see how this would propagate, especially if the TIE striker artist knew of the MK.II engine card art to begin with and assumed the positioning was the same. As far as I'm aware there is not another TIE with an elongated cockpit in the same manner as the Defender that has been depicted in canon, so it seems to be the unique case. The TIE advanced, phantom, various regular TIEs and interceptors all have pretty logical places to place the engines and have been shown in canon. It's the defender that's the weird one.
I've clearly thought about this a little too much.
Edited by citruscannon
To be fair there isn't a consensus on the TIE defender. I ran into this issue a lot before. some models place the triple engines inside that ring. (Ie. the thruster arrays over the solar ionization reactor)It happens a LOT. See also the TIE Mk2 art.
for example:
outside: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/11/10611/tiedefender_2_2.png https://nicholassagan.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/tiedef43.jpg
inside http://www.starwarsmodels.com/images/models/tiedf002.jpg
The Mk II engine art, which is here: http://img06.deviantart.net/99a5/i/2016/068/8/3/twin_ion_engine_mkii_by_ameeeeba-d9ugqvb.jpg
used the old star wars model for reference, you can see from the camber of the wings, I'm guessing ameeeba used this photo for positioning, it's a pretty close match and clearly was a model with the thruster arrays inside the ring of the ionization reactor: http://www.alfredsmind.ca/commissions/pics/td2.jpg
None of this of course excuses the oversight on the current model for the striker, but you can see how this would propagate, especially if the TIE striker artist knew of the MK.II engine card art to begin with and assumed the positioning was the same. As far as I'm aware there is not another TIE with an elongated cockpit in the same manner as the Defender that has been depicted in canon, so it seems to be the unique case. The TIE advanced, phantom, various regular TIEs and interceptors all have pretty logical places to place the engines and have been shown in canon. It's the defender that's the weird one.
I've clearly thought about this a little too much.
Maybe we will see the engines on the TIE Defender in Rebels... It's in the trailer for season three and is considered canon now.
As for the artwork, yeah, I've already complained about this particular card. I'm also pretty sure that any similarities between artwork and movie are pretty coincidental, given how the artists are generally fed information like this... I've been following one of the artist that sometimes does artwork for FFG on Deviantart and he was explaining some of the behind the scenes stuff for his artwork for the Striker.
Example: http://www.deviantart.com/art/STAR-WARS-Rogue-One-TIE-Striker-650068933
Oh no...for shame...a blue glow where a reactor supposedly is. Jaysus Christ stuff like this reminds me why I hate diehards who take things a little too far. Mistake aside it's a decent piece of art, not the best but nowhere near the worst.
Oh no...for shame...a blue glow where a reactor supposedly is. Jaysus Christ stuff like this reminds me why I hate diehards who take things a little too far. Mistake aside it's a decent piece of art, not the best but nowhere near the worst.
Yeah, that title goes to the E-Wing expansion's generics.
Yeah, that title goes to the E-Wing expansion's generics.Oh no...for shame...a blue glow where a reactor supposedly is. Jaysus Christ stuff like this reminds me why I hate diehards who take things a little too far. Mistake aside it's a decent piece of art, not the best but nowhere near the worst.
Gold Sqdn Ywings...
Binayre pirate 3d barf model gets my vote
The reactor is glowing hotel as he forceshus ship to the limit.
"I refuse to use any imagination to explain anything in the fictional space wizards world!!!!"
It's not important. It's only the reason it's called a TIE in the first place.
Twin Ion Engine
The art is terrible.
One day artists will check reference material on how engines work on tie fighters before they just guess and completely screw up what could have otherwise been a perfectly mediocre piece of card art.
Oh yeah, it's SOOOO terrible because the glowy bits aren't where the glowy bits are supposed to be. Look at all that terrible perspective, the lack of motion, the horrible color selections. This artist is garbage and should die, poor and unemployed in a ditch.
Guh.
If only I could do my job as poorly and still keep myself employed.
Only card drawers and government workers are so mercifully free of the need to actually produce decent results.
Ok... The artist screwed up on a very noticeable bit. Does it make it a bad piece? While technically inaccurate, it does look cool. I dislike it for the mistake, but recognize it as well done art. This does not make the artist bad, so let's get that straight. Also, it takes more than one person to allow a mistake like this to pass. FFG saw this before they accepted it. Go after the piece, not the person here.
