Fractalsponges work, (as incredible and detailed as they are) are in many cases his own interpretation and not accurate to the actual cannon material. His ISD while closer, is still off in all three categories mentioned above.

In the case of the "snub bow" I think at least part of the reason was, they didn't want something dangerously sharp and fragile.

Compare to Saxton's close-up of the Devastator bow:

It would be handy to see exact figures for the Avenger and Devastator models (length, width, width of bridge) and some conversion using all having the same "in-universe length" of 1600m, to tell us how long and wide and "bridge-width" they'd have in-universe.

Then do the same with the FFG Armada ISD model - and we'd know exactly how far out it is compared to the other two.

We know at least that the Devastator model was 91cm long and the Avenger model 259 cm long:

http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-mysteries-exacting-executor-measurements

And I've measured the ISD model and got 20.5 cm long, 13.5 cm wide, 3.5 cm bridge width.

Converting to "in-universe figures in metres" - that's 1600m long, 1054m wide, 273m Bridge Width.

In the case of the "snub bow" I think at least part of the reason was, they didn't want something dangerously sharp and fragile.

Damnit! Its no fun till someone pokes themselves in the eye with a star destroyer!

I can agree that the model's very wide (even the highest estimates for the Devastator's width I've seen, put it as 1016m in-universe - 58 cm wide for a 91cm long model) - but I don't know about the bridge being excessively small - some figures I've seen give the same 273m bridge diameter. Perhaps it only looks too small because the hull is so wide.

I can agree that the model's very wide (even the highest estimates for the Devastator's width I've seen, put it as 1016m) - but I don't know about the bridge being excessively small - some figures I've seen give the same bridge diameter. Perhaps it only looks too small because the hull is so wide.

I've thought that, because the bridge does match the superstructure width like its supposed to. However because one got thrown off, the others did too.

I would guess that when they designed the model - they started from that same image Saxton used - the one supporting a 1016m wide ISD.

The FFG ISD is definitely too 'stubby' but it doesn't bother me. It's a gaming piece first and foremost, after all, and appropriately conveys the majesty of the beast in my opinion.

Well here's hoping whatever we get next isn't designed using a faulty reference sheet.

On that note, really hoping its a rebelized (like the Arquitens) Venator Star Destroyer. I'd really like a mid range heavy medium carrier.

If all their models were as off as this, Armada would be as dead as the Wizards of the Coast game!

Suddenly Impstar model scale seems to be the new replacement for the old "capitol ship scale is bad versus other capitol ships!" outrage that we managed to (mostly) move past. Remember, that was supposed to kill the game, too.

Good! Good! As the rebel scum bicker over the proportions of the Imperial Fleet they will be unprepared for the overwhelming force of this armed and fully operational Imperial Star Destroyer.

And that's cool.

Some of us just don't care, either. I have precisely 0 OCD tendencies, and enjoy the game - and the models - for what they are.

Some people care about the Rules, for example - Like I do.

But there are some people out ther ewho just don't care for rules, either. The way they're written, or seemingly intended, or interpreted.

Its cool.

I'm just not a fan of someone going over and over and over on a point that's... already been gotten to.

I just don't understand it.

And that's cool, but I'm a Star Wars nerd, and to me, that type of thing matters, theme is ALL that ties me to this game. That's it. Nothing else. At all. Were it not Star Wars, I doubt it would have even gotten a glance on the shelf. And 0 cents or cares would have been spent.

I know from your previous posts, you are all about the game and rules, not the universe or theme it's tied to, and that's cool. It's kinda like that undeadguy or whatever his tag is who has openly stated he hates everything Star Wars. Different people, different interests, same game. There are bound to be conflicts.

Unfortunately for me, it seems FFG is more interested in rules than theme. Beneficial to your camp not mine, that's all. So when I complain just keep that in mind. Different people, different interests, same game. End result, we both have the same common goal, a successful game that will continue to see support.

Just a heads up, I will, at every opportunity, continue to complain and bring up the ISD issue I feel is a thing until an FFG representative contacts me about it or (and preferably) FFG releases a NEW and correct ISD model!

So if you feel the need, just block me so my posts no longer show for you. I will not be offended.

At least the pictures solves a lot of problems, scale is no longer an issue as a corvette is clearly the size of an ISD.

I have precisely 0 OCD tendencies,

Um, I've seen your rule thread posts so...

Skipray blastboats

Vindicators would be nice to see.

This I can see happening. Longer and thinner than the Gladiator, I can see it being a similar size, but with more emphasis on the broadside.

I'd also like to see Vindicators, but I think the Arq already has broadside focused cruiser covered. The Vindicator should have it's firepower concentrated forward like an ISD.

But if FFG made an ISD-I I'd buy a couple of those too. And if they made a special ISD with Thrawn's "Rebels" paint scheme I'd get that for my flagship.

I'd be interested in an imp ship that has equal firepower for forward and broadsides.

I'd be interested in an imp ship that has equal firepower for forward and broadsides.

You mean the interdictor?

I'd be interested in an imp ship that has equal firepower for forward and broadsides.

You mean the interdictor?

Apologies, I should have clarified, Corvette sized.

Skipray blastboats

I so want this.

Apologies, I should have clarified, Corvette sized.

3s in all 3 primary arcs (so, "better Arquitens") or 2s in all 3 primary arcs (so, "worse Raider")?

Apologies, I should have clarified, Corvette sized.

3s in all 3 primary arcs (so, "better Arquitens") or 2s in all 3 primary arcs (so, "worse Raider")?

What ships to use, not sure.

Edit: I'm just a fan of general purpose, not a dedicated broadside, not a dedicated bulldozer.

I never see anyone talk about the resurgent class battle cruisers.

At twice the length of an ISD the model can be scaled back further than that. Keep it a little bigger but not much. I doubt many would care.

It's so different from the look of an ISD whilst maintaining the space wedge shape that it would make an excellent addition, including kylo ren and/or general hux commanders!

Far better and more viable than a SSD.

For the rebels it's a no brainer. Profundity!!!! Adding admiral raddus!

Yep it's time to include rogue one and force awakens. Why wait?

I never see anyone talk about the resurgent class battle cruisers.

At twice the length of an ISD the model can be scaled back further than that. Keep it a little bigger but not much. I doubt many would care.

It's so different from the look of an ISD whilst maintaining the space wedge shape that it would make an excellent addition, including kylo ren and/or general hux commanders!

Far better and more viable than a SSD.

For the rebels it's a no brainer. Profundity!!!! Adding admiral raddus!

Yep it's time to include rogue one and force awakens. Why wait?

Edit: And with the rumors of new first order bombers and Kylo Rens personal fighter coming out, the first order would already be a pretty solid squadron release.

I never see anyone talk about the resurgent class battle cruisers.

At twice the length of an ISD the model can be scaled back further than that. Keep it a little bigger but not much. I doubt many would care.

It's so different from the look of an ISD whilst maintaining the space wedge shape that it would make an excellent addition, including kylo ren and/or general hux commanders!

Far better and more viable than a SSD.

For the rebels it's a no brainer. Profundity!!!! Adding admiral raddus!

Yep it's time to include rogue one and force awakens. Why wait?

At the size of the xwing raider, the resurgent would be appropriately sized. Toss in first order ties and s/f ties, got yourself a nice little release!

Edit: And with the rumors of new first order bombers and Kylo Rens personal fighter coming out, the first order would already be a pretty solid squadron release.

It's certainly a possibility - heck, wouldn't surprise me if it was SWM20 (only other thing I'd really think SWM20 might have been is the Executor).

Only point against that is that I don't know if FFG wants 'Armada' to jump into the Force Awakens era without having a matching 'capital ship' for the Rebels. And that isn't going to happen until Episode VIII (at the earliest). Then, yeah, a 'Force Awakens' squadron set that brings us TIE/fo, T-70, Special Forces TIE, etc...

Would make a solid wave. Which is *probably* what FFG is waiting for before that ship comes out...

I never see anyone talk about the resurgent class battle cruisers.

At twice the length of an ISD the model can be scaled back further than that. Keep it a little bigger but not much. I doubt many would care.

It's so different from the look of an ISD whilst maintaining the space wedge shape that it would make an excellent addition, including kylo ren and/or general hux commanders!

Far better and more viable than a SSD.

For the rebels it's a no brainer. Profundity!!!! Adding admiral raddus!

Yep it's time to include rogue one and force awakens. Why wait?

At the size of the xwing raider, the resurgent would be appropriately sized. Toss in first order ties and s/f ties, got yourself a nice little release!

Edit: And with the rumors of new first order bombers and Kylo Rens personal fighter coming out, the first order would already be a pretty solid squadron release.

It's certainly a possibility - heck, wouldn't surprise me if it was SWM20 (only other thing I'd really think SWM20 might have been is the Executor).

Only point against that is that I don't know if FFG wants 'Armada' to jump into the Force Awakens era without having a matching 'capital ship' for the Rebels. And that isn't going to happen until Episode VIII (at the earliest). Then, yeah, a 'Force Awakens' squadron set that brings us TIE/fo, T-70, Special Forces TIE, etc...

Would make a solid wave. Which is *probably* what FFG is waiting for before that ship comes out...

Rebels had capital ships in TFA. We'll just give them an extra two or three asteroid fields to deploy...