Poe: Pattern analyzer vs. Sensor cluster

By IG88E, in X-Wing

Both are really good on Poe. Maybe it depends on your play style (lot of koiograns or not), but what is more preferable?

Pattern analyzer:

After koiogran (or debris field) you still are able to take Poe´s live-saving focus token

Sensor cluster:

Possbile double evade with Poe´s ability after focus/blank roll

I have never played Poe (or any other T-70), how often do you koiogran? I think in a defender meta it is more than often?

I prefer R2-D2 over R5-P9, which is more suitable for both tech upgrades (green maneuver for Pattern analyzer or no focus token left when spent with Sensor Cluster)

Thx

R5p9 = pattern

R2d2 = clusters/primed

Easy

Pattern Analyzer is far, far superior. Using R2D2 on Poe is kinda wasteful as he is going to have a focus lying around, use it for regen and let someone else have R2D2. Plus, Autos > Clusters.

Poe with Autos, PA, Push, and R5P9 is insanely frustrating to take out.

Try it with cassian U

It is a joy to fly

Dpuble stress by ptling off a red move, give no ****

Edited by ficklegreendice

Try it with cassian U

It is a joy to fly

Dpuble stress by ptling off a red move, give no ****

Considering both upgrades are tech, I doubt cassian would get much use about it.

"It" being ptl r5p9 pa poe

R5p9 = pattern

R2d2 = clusters/primed

Easy

Pattern Analyzer is far, far superior. Using R2D2 on Poe is kinda wasteful as he is going to have a focus lying around, use it for regen and let someone else have R2D2. Plus, Autos > Clusters.

Poe with Autos, PA, Push, and R5P9 is insanely frustrating to take out.

R2-D2 doesn't get nerfed by Stress, blocking, Hot Shot Co-pilot, Wes Janson, Palob. You just need to dial in a green for a guaranteed shield. R5-P9 synergises quite nicely with Poe but if you want shear survivability then R2-D2 + Sensor Cluster takes some beating. What you don't want is R5-P9 + SC as both upgrades compete for the use of the Focus token.

I had allot of fun with Glass cannon poe : BB-8, Pattern analyzer, PTL

Reveal dial, BB-8 with pattern,

Execute green

Boost/PTL/Focus

????

Repeat.

You have to take something that will distract your opponent from him though, otherwise He will die in the first pass and not get to joust... in my case i took Rey.

He's also a bit expensive...

I had allot of fun with Glass cannon poe : BB-8, Pattern analyzer, PTL

Reveal dial, BB-8 with pattern,

Execute green

Boost/PTL/Focus

????

Repeat.

You have to take something that will distract your opponent from him though, otherwise He will die in the first pass and not get to joust... in my case i took Rey.

He's also a bit expensive...

Good combo

But Poe is definetively no glass cannon. If yes, then many other ships are made of popcorn

PTL, PA Poe with R2 and VT is insanely fun, but a bit squishy.

A hard 2 green and barrel roll/boost (or both) is very squirrelly best part is with PA, no stress gained!

I had allot of fun with Glass cannon poe : BB-8, Pattern analyzer, PTL

Reveal dial, BB-8 with pattern,

Execute green

Boost/PTL/Focus

????

Repeat.

You have to take something that will distract your opponent from him though, otherwise He will die in the first pass and not get to joust... in my case i took Rey.

He's also a bit expensive...

You realize pattern analyzer is redundant in this, right? Reveal dial, BB-8 Barrel Roll, PTL, Focus, Green maneuver, Boost/TL ... three actions, no stress.

I had allot of fun with Glass cannon poe : BB-8, Pattern analyzer, PTL

Reveal dial, BB-8 with pattern,

Execute green

Boost/PTL/Focus

????

Repeat.

You have to take something that will distract your opponent from him though, otherwise He will die in the first pass and not get to joust... in my case i took Rey.

He's also a bit expensive...

You realize pattern analyzer is redundant in this, right? Reveal dial, BB-8 Barrel Roll, PTL, Focus, Green maneuver, Boost/TL ... three actions, no stress.

What happens when you K turn or T-Roll?

PA is not redundant. Maybe not as cleanly efficient, but even with BB-8 still very useful.

What happens when you K turn or T-Roll?

PA is not redundant. Maybe not as cleanly efficient, but even with BB-8 still very useful.

Oh absolutely. It's just that in the example given, PA did nothing you couldn't already do without it.

PA is definitely my go-to tech choice for Poe. Maybe primed thrusters for StressNien or Snap, but definitely PA for Poe.

I had allot of fun with Glass cannon poe : BB-8, Pattern analyzer, PTL

Reveal dial, BB-8 with pattern,

Execute green

Boost/PTL/Focus

????

Repeat.

You have to take something that will distract your opponent from him though, otherwise He will die in the first pass and not get to joust... in my case i took Rey.

He's also a bit expensive...

You realize pattern analyzer is redundant in this, right? Reveal dial, BB-8 Barrel Roll, PTL, Focus, Green maneuver, Boost/TL ... three actions, no stress.

What happens when you K turn or T-Roll?

PA is not redundant. Maybe not as cleanly efficient, but even with BB-8 still very useful.

I think that I prefer Primed Thrusters with BB-8 because it allows you to barrel-roll with BB-8 even while stressed.

I've played with both and settled on PA. Sensor cluster makes for a tanky Poe but it can become hard to keep him pointed in the right direction. PA opens up your TRs and K-turns while keeping that crucial focus token for his ability and regen with r5-p9 (and its doubly nice when you have Kanan crew somewhere in the list).

Also worth mentioning the PTL PA combo can help give Poe a bit of action economy.

R5p9 = pattern

R2d2 = clusters/primed

Easy

Agree on this.

If you have the point or are in a stress-filled meta, no reason not to use R2-D2.

And if you have the point PA over PT all day everyday.

Edited by BlodVargarna

Can anyone explain how you can get two evades with sensor cluster?

I'm a fan of pattern analyzer on Poe with r5p9. If you're using that droid then PA is definitely a great option, and doesn't compete for the focus like cluster does.

Assuming Poe has a focus token, With SC if Poe rolls focus blank he can use his Poe pilot ability to turn the eyeball to an evade, then he can spend his token to turn the blank to an evade.

If he rolls evade blank, he can spend the token to get two evades.

If he rolls blank blank, he can use his token to get one evade.

Basically he will always get at least 1 evade if not two.

Assuming Poe has a focus token, With SC if Poe rolls focus blank he can use his Poe pilot ability to turn the eyeball to an evade, then he can spend his token to turn the blank to an evade.

If he rolls evade blank, he can spend the token to get two evades.

If he rolls blank blank, he can use his token to get one evade.

Basically he will always get at least 1 evade if not two.

Right. And don't forget the autothrusters. So often he can make 2 evades out of 2 blanks (once per round if not coupled with Jyn Erso)

There are several pretty decent Poe builds out there. What you have to decide is what balance you want between cost, action economy, tricks and pure tankiness.

My go to Poe build:

Veteran Insticts

Black One title

R2D2

Sensor Clusters

Autothrusters

Shield Regen w/R2, and always trying to stay ahead with the evades; accompanied with Rey Poe is pretty elusive and powerful. In fact everyone wants Rey gone first so Poe just does his magic for me while (Rey + C3PO/Finn, the Old title, and Expertise do what there meant to do)

Edited by Cgriffith

Pattern Analyzer is far, far superior. Using R2D2 on Poe is kinda wasteful as he is going to have a focus lying around, use it for regen and let someone else have R2D2. Plus, Autos > Clusters.

Poe with Autos, PA, Push, and R5P9 is insanely frustrating to take out.

Uh, you realize autothrusters doesn't compete with sensor cluster, right? Poe + R2-D2 + Sensor Cluster + Autothrusters is a full on tank.

And I'm not the biggest fan of R5-P9 Poe right now, just because my local meta is swimming in Asajj's. At least this way, I can still regen.

Edited by Zefirus

cassian, man

Cassian's got poe's back