FFG, Players & Collectors:

I think it would be awesome, fun and uber-profitable if FFG came out with a "Build an Epic Ship" series. Much like sister company Hasbro does with the Marvel Legends line . . . Oh yeah, Disney owns Marvel too so I don't think that would be a stretch.

See Groot? . . . for those of you that don't know you buy the rest of the Guardians of the Galaxy figs & each comes with a [head, arm, torso, leg, etc] to build Groot.

Imagine for example the EF76 Medical Frigate in all it's 1/270th scale glory in X-Wing Miniatures?! Too expensive? Too big? Too much retail space? I say to you, you think too small!

You can make a Blue Squadron/ Medical Frigate series & it would be . . . "EPIC"!

The fore Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron General Merrick X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The shaft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The aft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Paril Ritta Y-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The communication tower Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Laren Joma U-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

Scale out this logic to build a 2-piece Hammerhead with alternate painted ships . . . just use your imagination to other epic ship possibilities plus an alternate painted small or large ship.

I think it would be fantastic.

That... would be terrible. It's bad enough when you have to buy one massive expensive epic ships for 100 point cards. Now you want us to buy four packs, including two X Wings, a Y Wing and a U Wing? Even if the Nebulon parts cost nothing, that's $100+ AUD worth of ships that most people already have.

I have no problem with an appropriately scaled Nebulon in Epic, though I don't think we're likely to get it. I have no problem with X, Y and U wing pilots. But four packs? Bugger that.

That... would be terrible. It's bad enough when you have to buy one massive expensive epic ships for 100 point cards. Now you want us to buy four packs, including two X Wings, a Y Wing and a U Wing? Even if the Nebulon parts cost nothing, that's $100+ AUD worth of ships that most people already have.

I have no problem with an appropriately scaled Nebulon in Epic, though I don't think we're likely to get it. I have no problem with X, Y and U wing pilots. But four packs? Bugger that.

ok . . . keep it coming folks.

I don't think you are the target demographic, respectfully.

When I play Epic I honestly don't play by the point rules/ by-the-book . . . but that's another story for another post.

I think it could work.

I wouldnt mind a Nebula B Frigate either, But if we get that, I also want an Imperial Victory II Frigate from the Battlefront II game. (I dont wanna hear who doesnt like the Victory II either, i know its not the most popular ship, but i think it would look good next to the Imperial VT-49 and Tie Strikers

The victory II could be paired with a Tie Bomber and the Nebula B could be paired with Y-wing.

The Nebula B can dock ships similar to the Imperial Assault Carrier, up to 2 small ships or 1 large ship. similar to how it was in the movie, but the Victory II can be a full on attack ship

I say they can include something to improve the Y-Wing in the set but nothing for the x-wing, as I, and prob tons of fans, rather have it come in the form of a Rogue Squadron set.

The Victory II can be released with Epic ship improvements, such as Missile Launchers, and Torpedo Bays, thus allowing you to use them on any epic ship as an alternative to the standard blasters and stuff.

I think it'd be a good idea.

The kind of people who think "Why would I ever want more X Wings? I already have four and can't field any more in a 100 point game" are not the kinds of people who this would be aimed at.

I mean in an ideal world I'd want 12 Red Squadron X Wings and 12 Blue Squadron X Wings!

I don't think you are the target demographic, respectfully.

When I play Epic I honestly don't play by the point rules/ by-the-book . .

Your casual, kitchen table players are not going to lay down that kind of money for an epic expansion given how rarely most people get a chance to play epic - no matter how much you choose bot to play "by the book" an epic game still takes hours upon hours, and the average casual player just doesn't have that kind of time available on anything like a regular basis. I've been playing since just before wave 5 came out, and only played my first ever epic game a week ago.

On the other hand, your tournament crowd won't buy epic expansions unless there are cards they need for the 100 point game, and scattering good rebel cards into four separate epic expansions would be a real **** move by FFG, since they'd be forcing players to spend hundreds of dollars to stay competitive.

So who does that leave? Hardcore completionists who want one of every card is the only group I can imagine buying this in its entirety? The very wealthy, or people who have no other hobbies/family obligations/anything better to spend their money on? So, generously, maybe maximum 20-30% of the player base would buy this in its entirety. It's just not a commercially viable decision when compared to just selling four separate epic ships or aces packs, which would sell to a much higher percentage of the community.

Again, no issue with a Nebulon B epic ship. Pair it up with a B Wing and release a Battle of Endor themed epic release. That'd be sweet, scale be damned. But do it as one expansion.

an epic game still takes hours upon hours, and the average casual player just doesn't have that kind of time available on anything like a regular basis.

Average length for a game of 40K is about 3 hours, including set up and tear down. That's about the same as an Epic game.

There's loads of people who manage to find time for 3hr plus games.

You can make a Blue Squadron/ Medical Frigate series & it would be . . . "EPIC"!

The fore Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron General Merrick X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The shaft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The aft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Paril Ritta Y-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The communication tower Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Laren Joma U-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

I bought both a CR-90 and a Raider. I don't get to play with them as often as I would like, but I pull them out all the time to show friends how _awesome_ X-Wing is.

So let's say I buy the "Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards" pack. What on earth would I do with the central section of the Nebulon B? It doesn't function as a toy, as a show piece, or anything else interesting.

To me, that's the central problem with the idea. I can get behind the idea of buying several kits to get one awesome big kit, but each of them have to be interesting in their own right.

As one example: I can have fun with each of the Constructicons without having enough to form Devestator.

As one example: I can have fun with each of the Constructicons without having enough to form Devestator.

Oh stop lying to yourself, we all know the only reason we ever got the Constructions was in order to FORM Devastator....

Something like the hammerhead (which could be split into fore, aft, and upgrades (weapons pods transmitter and escape pods) I can see working.

The fore and aft could each come with a different XWing (partizan and blue squadron) and rules to use the individual part as part of a cinematic game. (Protect the fore section of a crippled hammerhead till rescue ships can arrive or such).

The final set essentially provide optional upgrades to the model (changing it from the rebels version to the up armed bulked out rogue one version, and comes with upgrade cards for the ship as a whole, a campaign focused on upgrading the hammerhead, and a Y wing.

The hammerhead being smaller than the corvette (though bulkier when upgraded) makes this much more viable than the nebulon, which as others have pointed out is several massive packs which are of little use till you have them all. (I would love a nebulon, just not like this)

3 or 4 packs is a little much, but I could get behind 2 with a smaller ship like the hammerhead. Anything with blue squadron has my attention. Though for me I'd leave out the partisan X-Wing, all we saw was it crashed and because of personal aesthetic taste. Lol

I just remembered a cool add-on pack I wanted for the Rebel Blockade Runner, would be a model attachment that you remove the Radar Dish from near the rear, and the front Duel blaster, and the bottom duel blaster, and attach in those slots a entire molding that would fit over the rest of the ship an attachment that transforms the CR-90 into the Night Caller Pocket Carrier. Then you just reattach the Radar and lasers over the new mold to lock it all in place.

For those who have no idea what the night caller is.... or Far Star.....

The fore Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron General Merrick X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The shaft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The aft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Paril Ritta Y-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The communication tower Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Laren Joma U-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

$16+$16+$16+$16+$130 = $194

$25+$25+$25+$25 = $100

If you are saying this might save me ~ $94,

as long as the packs came with a new paint scheme and new pilots,

then I would agree it's a good idea.

Like seriously, why is that NOT available from FFG!!

an epic game still takes hours upon hours, and the average casual player just doesn't have that kind of time available on anything like a regular basis.

Average length for a game of 40K is about 3 hours, including set up and tear down. That's about the same as an Epic game.

There's loads of people who manage to find time for 3hr plus games.

Yeah, I don't get this mindset. I mean, for me, gaming was BORN with the advent of D&D and nobody whined that it took all day. You can't roleplay in 1 hour, and even a game of monopoly could take all night. I know lots of guys that have a boardgame night at least once a month. What happened to gamers that all they can spare is a 60-minute time slot for their favorite hobby?

an epic game still takes hours upon hours, and the average casual player just doesn't have that kind of time available on anything like a regular basis.

Average length for a game of 40K is about 3 hours, including set up and tear down. That's about the same as an Epic game.

There's loads of people who manage to find time for 3hr plus games.

Yeah, I don't get this mindset. I mean, for me, gaming was BORN with the advent of D&D and nobody whined that it took all day. You can't roleplay in 1 hour, and even a game of monopoly could take all night. I know lots of guys that have a boardgame night at least once a month. What happened to gamers that all they can spare is a 60-minute time slot for their favorite hobby?

Wife, kids...

You can make a Blue Squadron/ Medical Frigate series & it would be . . . "EPIC"!

The fore Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron General Merrick X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The shaft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The aft Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Paril Ritta Y-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

The communication tower Frigate piece can come with a Blue Squadron Laren Joma U-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards.

So let's say I buy the "Blue Squadron Calum Gram X-Wing ship, plus exclusive cards" pack. What on earth would I do with the central section of the Nebulon B? It doesn't function as a toy, as a show piece, or anything else interesting.

If you don't want to build the complete ship .... eBay the modular piece (in this case the shaft) ... Friend you will have a buyer and you can out that money to use elsewhere.

an epic game still takes hours upon hours, and the average casual player just doesn't have that kind of time available on anything like a regular basis.

Average length for a game of 40K is about 3 hours, including set up and tear down. That's about the same as an Epic game.

There's loads of people who manage to find time for 3hr plus games.

Yeah, I don't get this mindset. I mean, for me, gaming was BORN with the advent of D&D and nobody whined that it took all day. You can't roleplay in 1 hour, and even a game of monopoly could take all night. I know lots of guys that have a boardgame night at least once a month. What happened to gamers that all they can spare is a 60-minute time slot for their favorite hobby?

Wife, kids...

I have a wife and kids too, and can still make between two or four 3+ hour gaming sessions a month plus a 9 hour weekend gaming day once or twice a month.

I mean, I get that there's time pressures on a lot of people, but do people REALLY only go down to the game store for precisely 75 minutes before running home? There's SO MANY games out there where 2.5 hours is just standard, and 3-4 hours isn't unusual. Is it because X Wing players have become used to the short play times and forgotten how long more traditional table top games take to play? There's a large chunk of X Wing players who've never played another table top game, so maybe they've just never been exposed to those play times?

I mean, if games only took an hour then that would be cool, I could duck down to the store after dinner and be home before the bathtime/bedtime shitfight, but at the same time if games only took an hour, I'd still be going to the store for the same amount of time, I'd just be playing three games instead of one. Or more realistically two games. But the point is I'd be committing the same amount of time to play games either way. And I much prefer to play larger games, so given the choice of two small, quick games or one bigger game I'll always prefer the bigger game when it comes to X Wing. Can't remember the last time I played a 100 point game.

EDIT: I see this in discussions about tournaments as well. Two day events are just standard for a lot of games, but mentioning it for X Wing events makes people lose their minds.

Like seriously, why is that NOT available from FFG!!

DAT MARDA...

A mere $20 Bucks stands betwixt you and glory... GLORY!!!

A mere $20 Bucks stands betwixt you and glory... GLORY!!!

What is this???? Honey, I Shrunk the Nebulon!?

A mere $20 Bucks stands betwixt you and glory... GLORY!!!

What is this???? Honey, I Shrunk the Nebulon!?

If you don't want to build the complete ship .... eBay the modular piece (in this case the shaft) ... Friend you will have a buyer and you can out that money to use elsewhere.

But I don't want a second job as a used toy salesman.

I'm saying this in a funny way, but the sentiment is serious. eBaying unwanted stuff is more work than I want out of my hobby. As is painting minis. I don't want to deal with it. I just want my toys and I want to play.

A mere $20 Bucks stands betwixt you and glory... GLORY!!!

What is this???? Honey, I Shrunk the Nebulon!?

Must be an extremely underrated (Nebulon) B movie....