I just want to be sure about that:

Yesterday my opponent got the Stunned Pilot crit on his 2 hull aggressor and on the next move he got blocked by one on my ships and ended his move on a debris.

Did he have to take one or two damages from the crit (beside the debris roll, of course?)

Thanks for answering!

L.

He suffers one damage from the Stunned Pilot damage card and any crit result he might roll for the debris. The Stunned Pilot card says when you overlap either another ship or an obstacle, not both.

I've sent a rules question about this, because I don't think it's as clear cut as that.

Put it this way:

It's illegal to either do more than 30 miles per hour or to drive through a red light. If you do both at once, would you get a ticket for just one of them?

Stunned Pilot: After you execute a maneuver, if you are touching another ship or overlapping an obstacle token, suffer 1 damage.

That's the text of the TFA card.

In my game it would not have changed the final outcome (my opp still had to roll for debris and if he survived had to face a 3 vs 2 shot from a TL+F shot from Norra's back, being tokenless target too) but the same situation may happen under more pregnant circumstances

Basically is it an exclusive or or not?

That's not remotely clear just from the text.

Basically is it an exclusive or or not?

That's not remotely clear just from the text.

I would suggest that the card is 100% clear.

The trigger on both versions of the card is 'after you execute a maneuver'. One trigger, one effect. It's a yes/no question: "Did I overlap a ship and/or obstacle?"

If the trigger was 'after you overlap a ship or obstacle' then both would definitely trigger, as is consistent with other rules for multiple sources.

I don't think there is any gray area here.

It doesn't say and/or.

It just says or.

And since English doesn't have different terms for the inclusive or versus the exclusive or, it's not clear.

It doesn't say and/or.

It just says or.

And since English doesn't have different terms for the inclusive or versus the exclusive or, it's not clear.

This is not a language issue. This is a logic issue:

N + N = N

N + Y = Y

Y + N = Y

Y + Y = Y

There are no alternatives.

1 trigger and a yes no question. Anything beyond that is you being willfully obstructive.

It doesn't say and/or.

It just says or.

And since English doesn't have different terms for the inclusive or versus the exclusive or, it's not clear.

This is not a language issue. This is a logic issue:

N + N = N

N + Y = Y

Y + N = Y

Y + Y = Y

There are no alternatives.

1 trigger and a yes no question. Anything beyond that is you being willfully obstructive.

It doesn't say and/or.

It just says or.

And since English doesn't have different terms for the inclusive or versus the exclusive or, it's not clear.

This is not a language issue. This is a logic issue:

N + N = N

N + Y = Y

Y + N = Y

Y + Y = Y

There are no alternatives.

1 trigger and a yes no question. Anything beyond that is you being willfully obstructive.

Actually there's an alternative. It's how FFG will rule. At one time you could hit multiple asteroids and only roll for damage once. That's been changed.

While I tend to agree with you, logically, FFG may rule differently. They have the final say and not rule 'logically'.

It seems binary to me.

Neither version of the crit is worded in a way that it can reasonably cause two damage from one move.

If it said, "... suffer 1 damage for each obstacle or ship you overlap," then it would do what you're arguing.

it also doesnt proc off hitting multiple rocks, while the rules do make you suffer multiple effects.

The "or" clause is the kicker here. As stated earlier, its simple binary. When writing rules its best to write it in simple yes/no flowchart patterns and leave opinion or "makes sense" out of it except for friendly game houseruling.

Two triggers non-independent triggers for a single output. We call it an OR-Gate. One, or the other, or both, dont care long as one is true.