Today I played 5 games against 4x U-wing with FCS and I terribly lost all of them. 4 large ship bases are coming to you with possibilites to make stop maneuvers avoiding you to pass their line. These are 32 hull behind 2 agility (compare 2 vcx with same hull but no evade dice). And with fire control system they can use their focus token for defense. It is so hard (and annoying) to get through these shields and hull).

Replacing one FCS with rebel crew such as Jan, Jyn which can buff the injured ship is also just ridiculous. When they come in blocks and FCS, blocking or asteroids are senseless too.

Experiences? Tips?

My only tip would be to play games with people who actually like you and are your mates

Play socially with mates and you dont get hit with spam lists that are a boring or walkover game because they dont want to piss you off and they are more interested in a good game than the 'win'

Honestly its why i dont play tournaments, we've tried things like TLT spam to see how they play (boring for all of us) but if you're not enjoying games because people you play against take dull and gimmicky lists then change who you play against.

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Place rocks where they don't like 'em and then this multiplied by 3:

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Indeed. Even though I did buy two more Us after this thread in order to have four, what I'm really wondering about is whether those people who are now that annoyed with four Us would be as annoyed with four Bs. Equal health, ±1 shield, similar dial, small instead of large base. Not that much of a difference.

Place rocks where they don't like 'em and then this multiplied by 3:

That's what I was getting at but my kindle is a pain to type fancy posts on.

I was just thinking of upping it to 2xOnyx and the Inquisitor because you have the PS lead as well

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Indeed. Even though I did buy two more Us after this thread in order to have four, what I'm really wondering about is whether those people who are now that annoyed with four Us would be as annoyed with four Bs. Equal health, ±1 shield, similar dial, small instead of large base. Not that much of a difference.

It's more about the large base than the stats. It clogs the lanes and creates a mess. Almost like fortressing.

Not Fun:

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Indeed. Even though I did buy two more Us after this thread in order to have four, what I'm really wondering about is whether those people who are now that annoyed with four Us would be as annoyed with four Bs. Equal health, ±1 shield, similar dial, small instead of large base. Not that much of a difference.

B's don't have the stop or are large bases.

I'm not too convinced about 'viability' of UUUU, but it certainly isn't broken.

I guess the real worry is the 180, 2 white straight from a r ed stop, which is a pain to pull off and puts your ships at a distinct disadvantage with 1 agi. The situation would come up maybe once in a game. Probably never.

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Indeed. Even though I did buy two more Us after this thread in order to have four, what I'm really wondering about is whether those people who are now that annoyed with four Us would be as annoyed with four Bs. Equal health, ±1 shield, similar dial, small instead of large base. Not that much of a difference.

It's more about the large base than the stats. It clogs the lanes and creates a mess. Almost like fortressing.

Not Fun:

What? How does that even happen?

UUUU is only really a minor upgrade on BBBB.

Indeed. Even though I did buy two more Us after this thread in order to have four, what I'm really wondering about is whether those people who are now that annoyed with four Us would be as annoyed with four Bs. Equal health, ±1 shield, similar dial, small instead of large base. Not that much of a difference.

It's more about the large base than the stats. It clogs the lanes and creates a mess. Almost like fortressing.

Not Fun:

What? How does that even happen?

That's what I was wondering. I don't see a "large base" anything in that picture. Even the tanker truck in the top left is pretty shrimpy. Like the Punisher, looks big compatatively, but flies small

Not Fun:

What? How does that even happen?

I'm thinking this is a post-flood-event photo. Therefore, it illustrates not a standard game against a UUUU, but the moment when you pick up your case to leave and you forgot to zip or snap it shut and the result is........I hope nothing is broken.

My saving grace is that custom foam holds them buggers pretty tight.

Not Fun:

What? How does that even happen?

I'm thinking this is a post-flood-event photo. Therefore, it illustrates not a standard game against a UUUU, but the moment when you pick up your case to leave and you forgot to zip or snap it shut and the result is........I hope nothing is broken.

My saving grace is that custom foam holds them buggers pretty tight.

Lol. True enough. I've had to glue up a couple ships already. And this is reminiscent of what happened after my 2-yr-old discretely sabotaged my case by popping the latches when I wasn't looking.

U-wings are far better from B-wings

1. Zero stop

You can use it for better usage of the rule of 11. Make a stop in the second turn and then you have a lot of green options to get defenders at range 3. When you don't kill a defender in first shooting, next round they are definetively dead when firing at him with Focus and Target Lock (from FCS).

Furthermore possibility for easy fortressing

2. Large base

You have to see for yourself the mess of four (!) large bases with little interets in action because of FCS

3. Zero turn:

A lot better than the 2-koiogran of B-wings in my opinion

4. One more agility (which you have 90 percent of the time)

Disadvantages:

1. One less shield/one more hull

2. MoV rule for large ships

It is like Quad-TLT: In the right hands the list is a beast (32 hull behind 2 agility)

I admit I would love to fly it.

On 12/29/2016 at 12:12 PM, IG88E said:

Today I played 5 games against 4x U-wing with FCS and I terribly lost all of them. 4 large ship bases are coming to you with possibilites to make stop maneuvers avoiding you to pass their line. These are 32 hull behind 2 agility (compare 2 vcx with same hull but no evade dice). And with fire control system they can use their focus token for defense. It is so hard (and annoying) to get through these shields and hull).

Replacing one FCS with rebel crew such as Jan, Jyn which can buff the injured ship is also just ridiculous. When they come in blocks and FCS, blocking or asteroids are senseless too.

Experiences? Tips?

Paging @IG88E for his take on how OP four U-Wings are now they come at a discount...

On 12/29/2016 at 8:36 AM, ScummyRebel said:

Suddenly, I want to buy some more Uwings...

I flew 2 U-Wings with 2 Resistance Bombers. 40 hit points is just awesome.

well since this is back, still think Us aren't much if any better than Bs

and now that you can take FAA rookies for a point less, there's even less reason to run em imo

best case scenario I can imagine is a BSP with refit, FCS (23)
then, one with Saw (24)
one with Rey (25)

and Heff /w refit, scopes Cassian, Jyn, obstruction mod (28)

So.. in Epic you can fit a GR75, 4x Uwings with FCS/Refit/APL/IP and 4 BSF17 with Silos and Clusters. still have over 30 points left over.

I may need more damage decks...

EDIT: just realized this was a necro.


That said, I don't think 4Us will be substantially better than 4x Lambda or 4x Jumpmaster, and those lists have always sucked against the majority of the meta.

21 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

I suspect OP would have similar fits against 4x Lambda and 4x Jumpmaster. Yet neither of those lists have ever made much of a splash in the competitive scene.

The 4 Jumps did win a regional in Canada or something. Las Vegas.

6 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

The 4 Jumps did win a regional in Canada or something.

yes but those are jumps

jumps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. U-wings

10 minutes ago, Jadotch said:

The 4 Jumps did win a regional in Canada or something.

in Las Vegas

4 hours ago, SOTL said:

Paging @IG88E for his take on how OP four U-Wings are now they come at a discount...

Unfortunately, you probably won't get a response...

1 minute ago, PanchoX1 said:

in Las Vegas

kinda like Canada.

On 12/29/2016 at 8:35 AM, JasonCole said:

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4x Jumps have Trick Shot and a turret.

For a UUUU list, I wonder if FCS is the wrong direction. With the new Refit, you could run four with Engine Upgrade. Eh. Naw. I still don't think it'd really work. Auzitucks are still going to be better. Maybe 4x U-Wings with Sensor Jammer. Naw. There's too much anti-Sensor-Jammer tech in the metagame these days.

I might fly that in Epic, though. Sensor Jammer, Engine Upgrade, and Wookiee Commandos for 30 points? I can't see it in 100/6, but they wouldn't exactly be easy for focus-less epic ships to bring down.