U-Wing Title Abuse

By killerbeardhawk, in X-Wing

U-Wing: · Cassian Andor (27)

Daredevil (3)

Advanced Sensors (3)

Engine Upgrade (4)

· Hera Syndulla (1)

Inspiring Recruit (1)

Pivot wing (0)

Can Cassian AS a Daredevil action, flip the title to 0-K. Reveal O, do 180 and flip the title back to two agility? Next round clear both stress with green and repeat?

There have been several threads about this so far. Here's one of them.

The consensus seems to be that per the rules, that's absolutely what happens.

I think you can but should you is the question. That is almost 40 points for a ship with very little attack power because you are using all the available upgrades just to turn around. Not worth it IMO.

There have been several threads about this so far. Here's one of them.

The consensus seems to be that per the rules, that's absolutely what happens.

You didn't actually bother to read/understand the post did you? xD

Hera makes it so you can perform red maneuvers while stressed, meaning with Advanced Sensors he uses Daredevil -> flips his card to landing -> get's stressed -> reveals 0 stop -> Hera makes it viable -> triggers title and does a 180 flip -> flip to flight mode -> perform green maneuver next turn to remove 2 stress with inspiring recruit.

Seems viable to me, but as Menace said, is it worth it?

Edited by RejjeN

Why go with Hera when you can, instead, not?

Reveal 0K while stressed, turn 180, can't perform a red maneuver while stressed so perform a white 2 straight. Until they FAQ it, it's totally legal.

Edited by Razgriz25thinf

There have been several threads about this so far. Here's one of them.

The consensus seems to be that per the rules, that's absolutely what happens.

You didn't actually bother to read/understand the post did you? xD

Hera makes it so you can perform red maneuvers while stressed, meaning with Advanced Sensors he uses Daredevil -> flips his card to landing -> get's stressed -> reveals 0 stop -> Hera makes it viable -> triggers title and does a 180 flip -> flip to flight mode -> perform green maneuver next turn to remove 2 stress with inspiring recruit.

Seems viable to me, but as Menace said, is it worth it?

Take off engine and get risky with it!

It's pretty maneuverable with options of Daredevil or boost pre move or post maneuver. Boost before 0-k. Or if need be 0-k all day.

I like the idea of Daredevil into blocking position and turning around to shoot someone else.

I'm confused. What does Daredevil add to the Uwing title?

Why go with Hera when you can, instead, not?

Reveal 0K while stressed, turn 180, can't perform a red maneuver while stressed so perform a white 2 straight. Until they FAQ it, it's totally legal.

Or put Hera on there a decide whether you'd rather 180 and stop or 180 and do a two white straight. Hera is optional.

There have been several threads about this so far. Here's one of them.

The consensus seems to be that per the rules, that's absolutely what happens.

You didn't actually bother to read/understand the post did you? xD

You got me. I read Hera but thought Kanan. This is what I thought was being proposed in the OP:

1. Use AS to Daredevil.

2. Get a stress from Daredevil.

3. Reveal a red stop maneuver.

4. Use the title to rotate the ship 180.

5. Perform a white 2 straight maneuver.

6. Clear stress with Kanan.

I'm confused. What does Daredevil add to the Uwing title?

The ability to execute a maneuver before you reveal your maneuver. With advanced sensors you "daredevil" which is a 1 white hard turn and receive a stress but as you executed a maneuver, per the title you can flip to "landing". You then revel the "stop" and flip the ship 180 and flip the title again because you executed a maneuver. Result, you're 1 hard right/left of where you were and you're facing back down your turn (or you could 1 hard right and leave it at that)... next turn you green maneuver and remove 1 stress plus the extra 1 stress from the inspiring recruit.

As others have said though, while it looks neat.... why would you want to do it?

I'm confused. What does Daredevil add to the Uwing title?

It allows you to start off the turn with the title on the +1 Agi side

Advance Sensor Daredevil (counts as a manuever) which allows you to flip the title to the 180 side.

Then reveal the 0 move, do the 180, which is another manuver, allowing you to flip it back to the +1 Agi side.

This allows you to perform the 0 180 turn without the +1 Agi title not showing.

However, you have to do a 1-Turn, so you're not really ending facing backwards.

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Edited by kris40k

I'm confused. What does Daredevil add to the Uwing title?

The ability to execute a maneuver before revealing your dial, allowing you to flip the title to the Landing side. Then you reveal your 0-K, execute it, and flip the title back to Attack.

Ok got it. DD counts as a maneuver, triggering the title card flip.

You'd need Hera though wouldn't you to reveal the red 0 move? Otherwise you just execute a 2 straight right?

LET THE DAM-U-WING HAVE IT'S GLORY... HA-HE-HO!

:P :P :P

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I'm confused. What does Daredevil add to the Uwing title?

It allows you to start off the turn with the title on the +1 Agi side

Advance Sensor Daredevil (counts as a manuever) which allows you to flip the title to the 180 side.

Then reveal the 0 move, do the 180, which is another manuver, allowing you to flip it back to the +1 Agi side.

This allows you to perform the 0 180 turn without the +1 Agi title not showing.

However, you have to do a 1-Turn, so you're not really ending facing backwards.

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Notice The White & Blue Sportster Gif...

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Ok got it. DD counts as a maneuver, triggering the title card flip.

You'd need Hera though wouldn't you to reveal the red 0 move? Otherwise you just execute a 2 straight right?

No. You can REVEAL a red maneuver while stressed. You just can't execute it. Thus, you can spin around before you default to performing a white 2 straight.

So then it would be 1 hard, reveal 0, flip 180, execute 2 straight?

So then it would be 1 hard, reveal 0, flip 180, execute 2 straight?

yes, if you used daredevil, anyways. It works without it, too.

It is a great trick, but as someone else put it, its cool you have figured out how to make the U-Wing do hand break turns, but what does it do after that?

There's just a little too much needed to make it do this.

U-Wing: · Cassian Andor (27)

Daredevil (3)

Advanced Sensors (3)

Engine Upgrade (4)

· Hera Syndulla (1)

Inspiring Recruit (1)

Pivot wing (0)

Can Cassian AS a Daredevil action, flip the title to 0-K. Reveal O, do 180 and flip the title back to two agility? Next round clear both stress with green and repeat?

Cool combo but...

you start this way(facing up, orange is origin position, red current state):

^

Now you daredevil:

>

^

Reveal a 0s to turn...

<

^

And now move 2s due to illegal maneuve

<

^

So now....enlighten me why not just turn left in the first place?

It is not illegal maneuver. You have Hera crew and can execute red maneuvers while stressed.

It is not illegal maneuver. You have Hera crew and can execute red maneuvers while stressed.

Missed that.

If thats just proof of concept - fine yea it works this way.

If that is concept for a ship build it plain stupid to build 40+ points ship around one weird maneuver that is not even whole 180 degree turn...

I would not call it abuse. Currently Cassian is the only pilot on the U-Wing that is elite, so it is nothing that can be spammed. As others have stated, it is 40+ points so I would not worry to much about it.

Edited by Jadotch

U-Wing: · Cassian Andor (27)

Daredevil (3)

Advanced Sensors (3)

Engine Upgrade (4)

· Hera Syndulla (1)

Inspiring Recruit (1)

Pivot wing (0)

Can Cassian AS a Daredevil action, flip the title to 0-K. Reveal O, do 180 and flip the title back to two agility? Next round clear both stress with green and repeat?

Cool combo but...

you start this way(facing up, orange is origin position, red current state):

^

Now you daredevil:

>

^

Reveal a 0s to turn...

<

^

And now move 2s due to illegal maneuve

<

^

So now....enlighten me why not just turn left in the first place?

Because you can, and for the Giggles!!

if somone did it to me in a game i would find it brilliant and probably lose all focus!

My HotAC pilot had all kinds of crazy shenanigans in his a wing, i like this kind of theorycrafting.

Edited by taulover55

35 pts.

Not cheap either, thought.