If you use (HoTR) Han what is the best build possible?

By Cgriffith, in X-Wing

To both acquire adequete firepower and enough dice support to stay alive; (If you add a Regen Poe Dameron) looking for suggestions. This also assumes that first placement of the Falcon is in range 3 and WILL be aggressive with the placement.

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I won a tournament (4-0) with this list, albeit only 8 people, but I played Dengaroo, x7 Defenders, IG-88s and a Protectorate Swarm. Han survived most, and Norra made a great 30-odd point addition that did a lot more damage output than Poe.

Han Solo

Lone Wolf

Hot Shot Co-Pilot

Gunner

Engine Upgrade

Millennium Falcon (Evade)

Norra Wexley

Push the Limit

R5-P9

Rey

Alliance Overhaul

That's 99 points so you got a bit to play with. Stripping tokens and forcing through damage and then basically a Norra with two focus and a target lock every round. The best thing about this Han is you can still play him like the old one, but you're breaking up your opponents play by forcing him to second guess his own approach. You can draw them out with a slow roll Norra (which is fine because she could collect focus tokens all day) and break their concentration of fire down by dumping Han anywhere on the board.

I'm by no means an above average player but I really enjoyed playing it too.

Here's the build I tried out trying to use his interesting new ability. It's a pretty maneuverable build that doesn't need engine upgrade. And HotR Han needs an independent wingman that can handle being targeted by most of the enemy team. I chose Miranda for the health and SLAM but Poe or Corran were the other ships I considered.

(55) YT-1300: · Han Solo (HotR) (46)

· Lone Wolf (2)

Smuggling Compartment (0)

Recon Specialist (3)

· Jan Ors (2)

· Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop) (1)

Burnout SLAM (1)

(45) K-Wing: · Miranda Doni (29)

Extra Munitions (2)

Twin Laser Turret (6)

Conner Net (4)

Vectored Thrusters (2)

· Captain Rex (2)

Unfortunately after I tried Expertise/Gunner on the OT Han it's been tough to revisit HotR Han. It's too bad HotR Han can't take Veteran Instincts and Lone Wolf, because he really could use both.

This is what I was thinking originally in regards to just Han

HoTR - Han

MF (Old) - Title

Veteran Instincts

Rey

Sabine Wren

- Conner Net

Smuggling Compartment

- Burnout Slam

My only concern is the defensive rolls unless I can keep him AFTER the inittal engagement at Range 3, because without Expertise and either Finn/C-3PO I'm lacking green dice. So I'm wondering do I drop Sabine and Rey and add them or is there some other modifications to be made

Edited by Cgriffith

I won a tournament (4-0) with this list, albeit only 8 people, but I played Dengaroo, x7 Defenders, IG-88s and a Protectorate Swarm. Han survived most, and Norra made a great 30-odd point addition that did a lot more damage output than Poe.

Han Solo

Lone Wolf

Hot Shot Co-Pilot

Gunner

Engine Upgrade

Millennium Falcon (Evade)

Norra Wexley

Push the Limit

R5-P9

Rey

Alliance Overhaul

That's 99 points so you got a bit to play with. Stripping tokens and forcing through damage and then basically a Norra with two focus and a target lock every round. The best thing about this Han is you can still play him like the old one, but you're breaking up your opponents play by forcing him to second guess his own approach. You can draw them out with a slow roll Norra (which is fine because she could collect focus tokens all day) and break their concentration of fire down by dumping Han anywhere on the board.

I'm by no means an above average player but I really enjoyed playing it too.

I run Norra/Rey (S-Loop) a lot, I do like the old title but I also like the new ability; I'm trying to find the middle ground. Nice list

Thing is, any of these builds with HotR Han just get better with Original Han.

How do you stop the Resistance Han from getting eaten alive by Defenders/Palpatine?

Or in that matter, the Rey list? I've tried a Rey/Norra build, but each time I've flown it the Defenders go straight to Norra and crush her, and then chase Rey around who can't get enough damage through. Norra doesn't seem to be able to get to the Shuttle fast enough before blowing up to help take it down so that the Defenders have to rely on their green dice.

How do you stop the Resistance Han from getting eaten alive by Defenders/Palpatine?

Or in that matter, the Rey list? I've tried a Rey/Norra build, but each time I've flown it the Defenders go straight to Norra and crush her, and then chase Rey around who can't get enough damage through. Norra doesn't seem to be able to get to the Shuttle fast enough before blowing up to help take it down so that the Defenders have to rely on their green dice.

That's a good question. When I use Rey which is my default Falcon pilot I use Kanan & Finn so I can s-loop can clear stress immediately but I have been trying out Finn and C-3PO. I beat a Defenders list a couple days ago with the (C-3PO & Finn build) but I had to fly very smart and diligently. Arc-dodging Poe was her wingman

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I don't believe HOTR Han can be better than OT Han gun to gun. I think the point of the new Falcon was to introduce Rey and Finn as an option with an S-loop.

Now Han's new ability is interesting but it really is no comparison. You need a high pilot skill to make use of it. So an un-named pilot wouldn't work. Han was the one who makes sense to slot that ability. I haven't run a list with new Han yet, but my strategy is going to be disrupt and break up enemy formations on Turn 1, then swoop in with support ships. Chaos bomb.

I don't believe HOTR Han can be better than OT Han gun to gun. I think the point of the new Falcon was to introduce Rey and Finn as an option with an S-loop.

Now Han's new ability is interesting but it really is no comparison. You need a high pilot skill to make use of it. So an un-named pilot wouldn't work. Han was the one who makes sense to slot that ability. I haven't run a list with new Han yet, but my strategy is going to be disrupt and break up enemy formations on Turn 1, then swoop in with support ships. Chaos bomb.

That's what I was thinking as well; the question then is crew. It appears the old title (evade) is superior in that it gives you that evade but then limits the crew options wiith a Sabine loadout; Rey builds seem to be more straight forward and superior (depending on title choice).

Edited by Cgriffith

Thing is, any of these builds with HotR Han just get better with Original Han.