I just got finished with 2 games and I just love the new Cruiser we have. It is such a change of pace to enjoy along with Flechette torpedoes.
Arquitens is great!
how good are flechette torps really?
How many and in what configuration did you use if you don't mind my asking
And also, how many do we need? 2? 5? 1?
3 worked well for me. One with Needa and TRCs. Basic Cruiser with nothing but Dual Turbolaser Turrets push good damage. Flechettes locked down Morna Kee for 3 Turns lol.
What were you running Flechette Torps on? I assume a Raider?
This makes me happy. I had high hopes for running a couple of these alongside a group of Raiders with ordnance, and it looks like my hopes are still intact.
Oh yeah, Arquitens are swell. I've had success with Needa+TRCs and Enhanced Armament (with Vader). Would definitely recommend Intel Officers past that because you're likely to get just the side arcs in. Haven't tried the Dual Turbos version yet, but it sounds appealing for your non-Vader fleets on your non-Needa Arquitens.
Literally the first person ive seen to say anything about that cruiser. I was begining to wonder if it went under the radar.
A broadside ship with red dice is something the Imperials were lacking. This fills that gap nicely.
I think this ship is a must in any fleet that brings the VSD as a carrier.
Since the carrier is giving up firepower and defense for squadron commands.
Its great to balance things out with the Arquitens since it picks up that slack.
Considering wave 5 is the VSD fix expansion, these two ships are totally bro's 
I had a game with an Arquittens running cover on the outside of my VSD. With Needa and TRC's it was able to pour out a lot of damage on the ships the VSD was being flanked by.
Great support and a group of them can really pour out damage.
In terms of uptake I think it's just slow because Christmas time and lack of events. I have played and seen a lot of games played. I think it will take about a couple of months, probably less, before complaints swamp this forum about Rebels being under powered and hard to build. A lot has changed in a week. Mostly due to this ship.
Edited by Trizzo2CR90 has been cut from every Rebel list.
I find that extremely difficult to believe given how consistently I see it around here. CR90As with Turbolaser Reroutes and CR90Bs with SW7 Ion Batteries are very common elements of most Rebel fleets. Either configuration is strong against any ship target, and that includes flotillas (where the CR90Bs tend to roll accuracy results enough to cause problems and the CR90As can often double-arc to overheat the defense tokens). Their only real basic weakness is versus squadrons and other elements of your fleet can handle that.
Yeah, it's one of those ships that work so well on delivering consistent damage from range due to the 3 natural reds and Needa/TRC combo.
CR90 has been cut from every Rebel list.
I find that extremely difficult to believe given how consistently I see it around here. CR90As with Turbolaser Reroutes and CR90Bs with SW7 Ion Batteries are very common elements of most Rebel fleets. Either configuration is strong against any ship target, and that includes flotillas (where the CR90Bs tend to roll accuracy results enough to cause problems and the CR90As can often double-arc to overheat the defense tokens). Their only real basic weakness is versus squadrons and other elements of your fleet can handle that.
You beat me too my edit I'll stand by it though. Enjoy TRC90 whilst it lasts. When something shots back at it every turn with with 4-5 red dice aggressively using a double arc TRC90 is not viable. The CR90s range of movement is shutdown because Arquitens can track a flanking CR90 with ease due to broad side. You can't run around a VSD/ISD when you hit a wall of red dice as a 4 hull ship. Then Arquitens doesn't even need to spend TRC to put 4-5 damage out very consistently, this allows me to keep my evade up and good luck double arcing Aqu at long range due to base size. Arquitens outclasses CR90 in a one vs one because of it's battery. It overwhelms the single Evade wheras the CR90 cannot.
CR90 has been cut from every Rebel list.
I find that extremely difficult to believe given how consistently I see it around here. CR90As with Turbolaser Reroutes and CR90Bs with SW7 Ion Batteries are very common elements of most Rebel fleets. Either configuration is strong against any ship target, and that includes flotillas (where the CR90Bs tend to roll accuracy results enough to cause problems and the CR90As can often double-arc to overheat the defense tokens). Their only real basic weakness is versus squadrons and other elements of your fleet can handle that.
You beat me too my edit
Sounds fine to me considering that the CL costs more
CR90 has been cut from every Rebel list.
I find that extremely difficult to believe given how consistently I see it around here. CR90As with Turbolaser Reroutes and CR90Bs with SW7 Ion Batteries are very common elements of most Rebel fleets. Either configuration is strong against any ship target, and that includes flotillas (where the CR90Bs tend to roll accuracy results enough to cause problems and the CR90As can often double-arc to overheat the defense tokens). Their only real basic weakness is versus squadrons and other elements of your fleet can handle that.
You beat me too my edit
CR90s are more maneuverable and have two Evades. They're also much better able to set up double-arcs than Arquitens are. If the Arquitens and TRC90 are having a long-ranged duel I'd call it about even, honestly, and the CR90B w/SW7s is going to cause some problems when/if it chases down the Arquitens to medium range and double-arcs it. I'm just not seeing a meta outcome where the Arquitens puts the CR90 out of a job.
Neither the Arquitens nor the CR90A particularly wants to get into a fight with the other, either (the CR90B, however...). They'd both really prefer targets without Evades.
Plus they're both faction-exclusive so it's not like Rebels can just ditch their TRC90s for Arquitens. In short, I'm extremely skeptical of your conclusion.
DTT Cr90's?
DTT Cr90's?
I could see it in a Mothma-led fleet where keeping those Evades handy is even more helpful than usual, but otherwise it seems like giving up TRCs is a tough ask.
DTT Cr90's?
I could see it in a Mothma-led fleet where keeping those Evades handy is even more helpful than usual, but otherwise it seems like giving up TRCs is a tough ask.
Yeah, I think TRC is just so powerful of an upgrade on CR90s that I don't see DTT competing with it, even in a mothma list.
CR90 has been cut from every Rebel list.
I find that extremely difficult to believe given how consistently I see it around here. CR90As with Turbolaser Reroutes and CR90Bs with SW7 Ion Batteries are very common elements of most Rebel fleets. Either configuration is strong against any ship target, and that includes flotillas (where the CR90Bs tend to roll accuracy results enough to cause problems and the CR90As can often double-arc to overheat the defense tokens). Their only real basic weakness is versus squadrons and other elements of your fleet can handle that.
You beat me too my edit
CR90s are more maneuverable and have two Evades. They're also much better able to set up double-arcs than Arquitens are. If the Arquitens and TRC90 are having a long-ranged duel I'd call it about even, honestly, and the CR90B w/SW7s is going to cause some problems when/if it chases down the Arquitens to medium range and double-arcs it. I'm just not seeing a meta outcome where the Arquitens puts the CR90 out of a job.
Neither the Arquitens nor the CR90A particularly wants to get into a fight with the other, either (the CR90B, however...). They'd both really prefer targets without Evades.
Plus they're both faction-exclusive so it's not like Rebels can just ditch their TRC90s for Arquitens. In short, I'm extremely skeptical of your conclusion.
And that skeptism is totally fine! It's all just observations and speculation. Maybe Mon Mothma/Cracken go large and they are fine. Maybe they are fine anyway i dont think so though
As an Imp main I disagree about an even dual. I will hunt down TRC90 with my Aquitens very happily. It has gone from having to using Needa on my VSD/ISD and Monty on my Demo and simply avoiding TRC90 to actively hunting them down and dualing them.
- Yes CR90 is more maneuverable.
- Yes it has two evades.
- Yes it can set up double arcs easily.
But none of this counts for much when facing Arquitens.
- Against a broadisde maneuverability does not help in the way it does against front arcs, they can't fly as freely.
- Two evades is not as helpful against 4-5 red dice that are rerolled or TRCd for max damage. You either keep an evade up which greatly reduces the power of one of the CR90s arcs or it's damage.
- You cannot easily double arc a small base ship and one that has II Yaw which lets it do evasive flairs.
But whatever happens in a couple of months I sure we agree that a) they are compete with each other quite well b) that's a good thing because Imps needed it
Edited by Trizzo2Just throwing my own opinion into the ring:
I think the Arquitens is exactly what the imps needed and is an absolutely wonderful little ship for the cost.
I don't know about this year but in 2015: 90% of winning tournament lists had at least 1 CR-90.
Right now people are tossing their CR-90's because Arquitens can give chase but thats an over reaction...
FFG just wants you to bring something else to go along with it like a Nebulon or a Pelta and not spam the same ship 3-4 times.
(keep this in mind before you in turn over react and buy 4 Arquitens, only to find out wave 6 or a shift in meta makes that unviable)
Off course you can make anything work, but things like Corvette spams should work because they are unexpected, not because the meta pushes it.
Edited by veggie247