ISD-1 Expansion

By Animewarsdude, in Star Wars: Armada

If they do a Rogue One wave or related wave where the release the MC75 cruiser I have to wonder the chances of getting a ISD-1 for the Empire. It could be called the Chimera expansion pack, and feature a new ISD sculpt or a modified ISD sculpt, and could feature a number of new upgrades and cards.

Commander

-Thrawn

Officer

-Director Krennic

Titles

-Chimera

-Executrix (Tarkin's star destroyer)

- Harbinger (Tector class star destroyer from ROTJ)

Ship Cards

- Imperial I-Class Star Destroyer

- Tector Class Star Destroyer (Different upgrades, attack dice distribution, and a squadron rating of 1 or 0.)

FFG should look at releasing those Episode 7 Star Destroyers for Armada.

Im pretty confident First Order Star Destroyers will not happen until after Episode 8. I think we're going to see the New Republic and tons of capital ships next film. I thonk Lucasfilm realizes space battles are great especially after everyone's enjoyment of Scarif.

Right now they would stick out likea sore thumb.

Dumb question... how do folks know that they are ISD1 and not 2s?

There are model differences:

- The Sensor Dome is Raised on an ISD-1 (but lower on an ISD-II).

There are a set of NK-7 Ions on the Nose of the ISD-I.

The Engines have Baffles on an ISD-1....

Mel has an upgrade kit that Shows the differences between an ISD-I and an ISD-II...

They are somewhat nitpicky on details - but its the sort of thing that, once you know, you cannot unsee....

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Edited by Drasnighta

FFG should look at releasing those Episode 7 Star Destroyers for Armada.

NO. First of all the first order star destroyers are twice the size of an ISD. No amount of scaling would make them work well in Armada, IMO.

Im pretty confident First Order Star Destroyers will not happen until after Episode 8. I think we're going to see the New Republic and tons of capital ships next film. I thonk Lucasfilm realizes space battles are great especially after everyone's enjoyment of Scarif.

Right now they would stick out likea sore thumb.

There's a decent chance we won't get any of the new trilogy in Armada. The Resistance is mostly snubfighters and after 7 the New Republic government is dead so who knows if they're even going to be a factor at all.

There are model differences:

- The Sensor Dome is Raised on an ISD-1 (but lower on an ISD-II).

There are a set of NK-7 Ions on the Nose of the ISD-I.

The Engines have Baffles on an ISD-1....

Mel has an upgrade kit that Shows the differences between an ISD-I and an ISD-II...

They are somewhat nitpicky on details - but its the sort of thing that, once you know, you cannot unsee....

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And of course I would expect that they would take some liberties as well the same way the OT and ST Falcon model has their differences, they generally look the same but even certain details are rather different. For example the blaster holes, the landing gear, and the cut on the bottom are all noticeably different from one model to the next.

There are model differences:

- The Sensor Dome is Raised on an ISD-1 (but lower on an ISD-II).

There are a set of NK-7 Ions on the Nose of the ISD-I.

The Engines have Baffles on an ISD-1....

Mel has an upgrade kit that Shows the differences between an ISD-I and an ISD-II...

They are somewhat nitpicky on details - but its the sort of thing that, once you know, you cannot unsee....

625x465_14365587_8747933_1463523002.jpg

And of course I would expect that they would take some liberties as well the same way the OT and ST Falcon model has their differences, they generally look the same but even certain details are rather different. For example the blaster holes, the landing gear, and the cut on the bottom are all noticeably different from one model to the next.

Also: PAINT IT WHITE.

The Lambda shuttle from X-Wing is a good model for the paintscheme this should have - like that, just...BIGGER.

We already have the ISD-I. It's in the Imperial Star Destroyer expansion.

Believe me, I would have loved to have the Imperial-I model as we see it in R1/ANH. I've always loved the vertical targeting array and more prominent guns of the ISD-I over the relatively subdued appearance of the ISD-II. But there is no precedent for FFG to essentially re-release a ship outside of an aces pack... and I kind of shudder to think of the cost of what an "Aces Pack" would be with the most expensive ship in the game yoked to something else. Besides, the work required for an ISD-I means FFG has to re-create the entire model. Right now there's no need. I think we're stuck with the ISD we have now.

I'd also like to see a Resurgent. There are very few other large ships that the empire could field now (especially in canon) apart from the Resurgent. But I agree... I don't think we'll see one until at least a Resistance/New Republic ship can be fielded against it. Even X-Wing waited to have diametric opposites before fielding them as a new faction.

According to the wiki the Resistance uses old refitted MC80s including Home One so technically we already have some Resistance ships. Also the Resurgent class star Destroyer is only 600m longer than an ISD which is 40% larger not twice the size. Considering FFGs sliding scale I don't think its too much of a stretch to make a Resurgent class Star Destroyer.

According to the wiki the Resistance uses old refitted MC80s including Home One so technically we already have some Resistance ships. Also the Resurgent class star Destroyer is only 600m longer than an ISD which is 40% larger not twice the size. Considering FFGs sliding scale I don't think its too much of a stretch to make a Resurgent class Star Destroyer.

Keep in mind that it needs to be able to deploy in the deployment zone;)

And isn't the X-Wing Raider bigger than the ISD? Like. . .significantly?

Couldn't the empire get that shield generating space station for a rogue one expansion? I think it would be pretty cool. It looks like it could hold its own against the rebels, it could also have command over lots of squadrons and be the first release with 6 shields.

We already have the ISD-I. It's in the Imperial Star Destroyer expansion.

Believe me, I would have loved to have the Imperial-I model as we see it in R1/ANH. I've always loved the vertical targeting array and more prominent guns of the ISD-I over the relatively subdued appearance of the ISD-II. But there is no precedent for FFG to essentially re-release a ship outside of an aces pack... and I kind of shudder to think of the cost of what an "Aces Pack" would be with the most expensive ship in the game yoked to something else. Besides, the work required for an ISD-I means FFG has to re-create the entire model. Right now there's no need. I think we're stuck with the ISD we have now.

I'd also like to see a Resurgent. There are very few other large ships that the empire could field now (especially in canon) apart from the Resurgent. But I agree... I don't think we'll see one until at least a Resistance/New Republic ship can be fielded against it. Even X-Wing waited to have diametric opposites before fielding them as a new faction.

I see it less of a ace's style ship and more along the lines of where we have the MC80 and the MC80 Liberty. Though if they want to have it be along the lines of an aces pack they could give it the Chimera's paint scheme.

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Couldn't the empire get that shield generating space station for a rogue one expansion? I think it would be pretty cool. It looks like it could hold its own against the rebels, it could also have command over lots of squadrons and be the first release with 6 shields.

The Cc brought us armed stations.

According to the wiki the Resistance uses old refitted MC80s including Home One so technically we already have some Resistance ships. Also the Resurgent class star Destroyer is only 600m longer than an ISD which is 40% larger not twice the size.

ISD: 1600m

Resurgent: 2916m (to nearest m)

Not twice the length - but pretty close

I just want FFG to rerelease the Star Destroyer in it's appropriate dimensions. Right now it's way to wide at the back. Or I need someone to release a high quality model destroyer at Armada scale.

According to the wiki the Resistance uses old refitted MC80s including Home One so technically we already have some Resistance ships. Also the Resurgent class star Destroyer is only 600m longer than an ISD which is 40% larger not twice the size.

ISD: 1600m

Resurgent: 2916m (to nearest m)

Not twice the length - but pretty close

Give it the same treatment that you would have to to adapt the Kelvin timeline ships to old Trek. Cut everything in half. JJ doubled the size of everything in the new Trek (400m to almost 800m for the constitution class). Assume the same with the new Star Wars.

If you did that, you have a 1458m star destroyer that is an updated ISD style ship to reflect the different threats faced by the First Order compared to the Empire. Now we have a fun addition to Armada.

It's weird that I want to see plastic for space stations. I'm not sure how to deploy it though, because what happens if both players have space stations in the list? Then I think Objectives, but we just got that with the cc pack.

I think regardless of scale if FFG wanted to make it fit, they would find a way. I don't care if it's a bigger mini on a smaller base (like the Gladiator). Right now I think there's more of a cause to implement things to make ISDs work better than just rolling out the Resurgent, honestly. Because say a Resurgent was handed to us... how would it be significantly different from the ISD-I?

Getting back to the ISD-I though... lemmie ask, has anyone else bought Mel's modification pack? Got pictures to share? Did it work well for what you did? I'm thinking of converting my third ISD to a I version and may indulge in the pack if I get some cash (that or Escort Shuttles).

One of the worse design decisions of FFG for Armada was to make later versions of ships just like different modifications. ISD I and ISD II and the same goes for the VSD should be much more different in many stats as the II-Versions were like the Panzer IV A and Panzer IV H.

FFG should look at releasing those Episode 7 Star Destroyers for Armada.

NO. First of all the first order star destroyers are twice the size of an ISD. No amount of scaling would make them work well in Armada, IMO.

Victory Star Destroyers are more than twice the size of Nebulon-Bs, and ISD2 are twice the size of VSDs. The CR90 Corvette should fit entirely within the hanger bay underneath a Star Destroyer. The GR-75 should be half the size of the CR90 Corvette that fits into that hangar bay.

Armada uses a sliding scale between ships to alleviate these issues. The Resurgence-class would only need to be a little bigger than an ISD to look massive by comparison.

Victory Star Destroyers are more than twice the size of Nebulon-Bs, and ISD2 are twice the size of VSDs. The CR90 Corvette should fit entirely within the hanger bay underneath a Star Destroyer. The GR-75 should be half the size of the CR90 Corvette that fits into that hangar bay

Actually after having rewatched the episode of Rebels where it shows up, the Interdictor is large enough to fit a CR-90, let alone an Imperial class. They really have to toy with scale to make the game work, otherwise the TIE fighters would have to be represented by grains of sand. I'd rather have some disproportionately sized ships with sound rules to play with, that I can reasonably move around the table together, over having perfect scale at the sacrifice of reasonable playability. I've played other tabletops where some models are obnoxiously large enough to the point that they make it difficult to play the game.

Victory Star Destroyers are more than twice the size of Nebulon-Bs, and ISD2 are twice the size of VSDs. The CR90 Corvette should fit entirely within the hanger bay underneath a Star Destroyer. The GR-75 should be half the size of the CR90 Corvette that fits into that hangar bay

Actually after having rewatched the episode of Rebels where it shows up, the Interdictor is large enough to fit a CR-90, let alone an Imperial class. They really have to toy with scale to make the game work, otherwise the TIE fighters would have to be represented by grains of sand. I'd rather have some disproportionately sized ships with sound rules to play with, that I can reasonably move around the table together, over having perfect scale at the sacrifice of reasonable playability. I've played other tabletops where some models are obnoxiously large enough to the point that they make it difficult to play the game.

If we go by the studio plans, the Interdictor's hangar bay came from an ISD. But I absolutely agree with what you're sayin' mate :) I'm in the same boat, or Gorgon I guess.

There are model differences:

- The Sensor Dome is Raised on an ISD-1 (but lower on an ISD-II).

There are a set of NK-7 Ions on the Nose of the ISD-I.

The Engines have Baffles on an ISD-1....

Mel has an upgrade kit that Shows the differences between an ISD-I and an ISD-II...

They are somewhat nitpicky on details - but its the sort of thing that, once you know, you cannot unsee....

625x465_14365587_8747933_1463523002.jpg

Here are some pictures by Sifu Steve:

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