99% of my ship is range 2, 1% range 1. I assume range 1 attack. The person with TLT was saying that a tactician ruling allow him to trigger his TLT. I did not understand the tactician rule and have never seen it played. It was standard Thugs with TLT and unhinged
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No he could not. The ship is in range one as long as some part is range one. And I don't see the relevance of Tactician in that. Tactician would also not trigger...
I'm not sure what ruling he's referring to Tactician says "at range 2" and per the FAQ At vs Within Tactician only works if the closest point is at range 2 in arc. This however can get tricky when using a turret...
“At” means the closest part of the target’s base touches that range section. For example, when attacking a ship whose base touches both Range 2 and Range 3, that ship is at Range 2. “Within” means wholly within. For example, normal tournament deployment is “within Range 1 of the table edge.”
Per the rules attacks also use the at range, which means you measure the closest point to closest point and maybe in arc depending on the weapon and the range is based on that. Since it's a TLT it doesn't have to use the closest point in arc, it uses the closest point in our out of arc.
Tactician only measure in arc however. So per the example on page 5 of the FAQ you can have an attack where the closest point with a turret is range 1, but tactician still triggers because it's range 2 in arc.
Bottom line however is for a TLT you only measure closest point to closest point, and base the range on that.
Edit: So in the OP's case, it would depend on if that 1% was the closest point or not.
Edited by VanorDMYes in this case 1% was closest point.
Yes in this case 1% was closest point.
Then TLT's can't be used.
I think he may of been confused by the Tactician example because that's "in arc" as opposed to simply closest point. So you can shoot a ship that's at range 1 with a turret and still use tactician.
Edited by VanorDM