I think I already know the answer to this, but I just want some reassurance before this eventually comes up amongst my "gamer Nazi" buddies.

On the yellow die there is a one instance that shows on the face of the die what seems to be 2 surges and a hit result. Are those 2 surges really just 1 double-surge result or are they considered to be 2 separate surge results?

Furthermore to this, if an ability requires a double-surge to activate, can you use 2 separate surge results instead?

I am currently under the belief that it is indeed a 3rd possible die result, known as a double-surge (hit, surge, double-surge), that it doesn't count as 2 separate surges, cannot be "pieced together" using 2 separate surge results, can be cancelled by an evade result, and cannot be used as a single surge result.

Is my brain-ball in the right, or do I need to switch my meds?

There is no double surge, just 2 surges.

Each surge is counted separately whatever the source and can be spent together with another from any source for an ability which requires 2 surges to be spent.

To add to the above post, and I'm pretty sure there's only two abilities in the game that requires a "double-surge", and they're both from expansions. There's nothing in Core game that requires a "double-surge", so that would have been useless until those expansions came out.

I'm really curious about the logic process that lead you to this theory, since "double-surge" appears nowhere in the rules

To add to the above post, and I'm pretty sure there's only two abilities in the game that requires a "double-surge", and they're both from expansions. There's nothing in Core game that requires a "double-surge", so that would have been useless until those expansions came out.

I'm really curious about the logic process that lead you to this theory, since "double-surge" appears nowhere in the rules

not entirely, General Weiss's blast 3 needs 2 surge to trigger

what other stuff do you have in mind? I can only think of Explosive Armament

From expansions Davith's Fell Swoop, Tatoiine Hunting Rifle (with 2x Blue dice!), DLT-19, and Ancient Lightsaber have surge abilities that take 2 surges.

Tatoiine Hunting Rifle is a good example - it does not naturally roll a yellow die, and there are only a few abilities that add a yellow die.

Thanks everyone for the clarification.

I suspected there was no such 3rd result called a "double-surge" - the core rules would've mentioned it - but I just wanted to make sure.

This question arose in me while I was playing Redjack's Imp Assault AI game. In his rules he mentions the order in which the AI will spend surges and one of the options was what he called "double-surges". This is what started me to question whether or not the double-surge result on the yellow die was a 3rd possible result and perhaps overlooked (however unlikely) by the core rules.

Anyway, glad to know my original thinking was on point. Thanks!

That was put into his rules to ensure that figures like Weiss use their more expensive abilities before anything else. It's defined only for the purposes of the solo play by Redjack