I haven't been able to stay hooked into the community because of grad school/work responsibilities. I would appreciate some help crafting a new BroBots squad.
What has been released lately that could be implemented into Bro-Bots?
Does the IG-88D crew card have a build that maximizes the partnership with an Aggressor?
I used to play with CrackBots, but I want to get back into building for fun, my entire life I have been an IG-88 fanboy and I want to run BroBots at the next local game night.
TLTs sort of melt through them. So now everyone has gone to hard hitting Dengaroo and torpedoes. (Although FFG felt the need to nerf torps again so deadeye is small ship only ensuring that torpedoes go back on the shelf and are never used again).
As for IG-88D <Crew> the thing with hims is that he only works one way where as the title for brobots work both ways. If the agressor dies then IG-88 <Crew> might as well be airlocked. So far the only combo I've seen is Evol party buss and B, but still that doesn't tend to stand up in the meta.
Edited by MarinealverWhile the shifting nature of the general meta (if there's really one you can put your thumb on) may box out some brobots players, I really think burnout (playing same list too many times) has a lot to do with it. The list options have not changed very much since they first came out.
While the shifting nature of the general meta (if there's really one you can put your thumb on) may box out some brobots players, I really think burnout (playing same list too many times) has a lot to do with it. The list options have not changed very much since they first came out.
I agree that BroBots is easy to 'burn out' because there has been limited innovation with the list, especially as most people instinctively build them as identical twins. I am curious bout the potential of more asymmetrical pairs of BroBots, and whether there are some new upgrades that could open doors.
TLTs sort of melt through them. So now everyone has gone to hard hitting Dengaroo and torpedoes. (Although FFG felt the need to nerf torps again so deadeye is small ship only ensuring that torpedoes go back on the shelf and are never used again).
As for IG-88D <Crew> the thing with hims is that he only works one way where as the title for brobots work both ways. If the agressor dies then IG-88 <Crew> might as well be airlocked. So far the only combo I've seen is Evol party buss and B, but still that doesn't tend to stand up in the meta.
They still exist and are competitive, for exanple asymmetric Brobots made Top4 at Gamecon
Edited by IG88EI still remember wave 7 post palp aces
Brobots everywhere, not a TLT Y to be seen
they had no problem v them
Defenders were, oddly enough, always a sort of counter to them being so similar but also so apt at sneaking between obstacles and getting behind the big guys. Now, well you all know what happened to Defenders
Brobots have lots of hitpoints, 3 green dice and Autothrusters. If anyone doesn't care about TLTs it is them. The greatest challenge Brobots face in todays meta are TIE Defenders. Defenders are efficient enough to hold up on a joust (where Brobots were arguably the strongest in most matchups) and can then easily set themselves behind the Agressors, since those can't k-turn more than once. Thats really dangerous if you only have 2 ships!
Fortunately not all is lost. You can use IG-88 D pilot to gain a trick Defenders can't use or you can use the4 crew to chose a ship that can cover your weakness, like a Shadow Caster or YV-666, although I don't know any killer builds with that, only nice ones.
Something new for Bots is Attani Mindlink. It may sound dangerous to distribute stress among both of your ships, but believe me when I say it is great action economy Best of all, you can just use it instead of Crackshot in the list you are already familiar with. It is an upgrade that makes the bots both more difficult and more rewarding.
Edit: If you want to see a possible list:
IG-88B (36)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Feedback Array (2)
Autothrusters (2)
IG-2000 (0)
IG-88D (36)
Attanni Mindlink (1)
Advanced Sensors (3)
Heavy Laser Cannon (7)
Black Market Slicer Tools (1)
Autothrusters (2)
IG-2000 (0)
Total: 100
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Where of course you can change Advanced Sensors/BMSTs for another set of FCS and Feedback Array on D. I like assymetrical brobots, but I know a lot of people don't.
Edited by Admiral DeathrainI've been flying em (B&C) with BMST and tractor beams lately. Win way more now with current list than last year.
Edit: And way more fun too!
Edited by dewbie420
They still exist and are competitive, for exanple asymmetric Brobots made Top4 at Gamecon
Do you happen to have that list readily available or a link?
Brobots are still pretty good, even against Defenders if built and flown correctly.
But no, there has not been anything released since, say, Wired that does much for them. BMST gives some insurance against PTL Aces, but it's insurance that's becoming less necessary. When released, Brobots were way up on the power-curve. Now they're only "pretty good."
I don't personally get tired of flying Brobots (any more than I can tired of flying any list; I don't have the force of will to stick with one list exclusively for more than a few games, and I play all factions). When built and flown optimally (B and C, Advanced Sensors), every game is like a 60-minute ever-changing visual puzzle, which I find enjoyable.
The problem with Iggys from the get-go is they were pretty meh unless paired together. I kinda wish they were cheaper and the title wasnt free. IggyB can be fine at his pricing without a brother around but even then hes not the greatest option by a long shot. They really need buddies to be awesome.
If Dengar wasnt a thing, i imagine the IggyB crew would have literally been the title, conveying the ships' ability to the other Iggy ships as well. But IggyB + Dengar would be broken AS HELL so that alone denied that possibility.
And since they work in pairs, once they arent the best thing you can do, they disappear. Other less than optimal ships appear because they can be slipped into niche lists, but the iggys cant be slipped in like that.
TLTs sort of melt through them. So now everyone has gone to hard hitting Dengaroo and torpedoes. (Although FFG felt the need to nerf torps again so deadeye is small ship only ensuring that torpedoes go back on the shelf and are never used again).
As for IG-88D <Crew> the thing with hims is that he only works one way where as the title for brobots work both ways. If the agressor dies then IG-88 <Crew> might as well be airlocked. So far the only combo I've seen is Evol party buss and B, but still that doesn't tend to stand up in the meta.
Boba with 88C works pretty well in my experience.TLTs sort of melt through them. So now everyone has gone to hard hitting Dengaroo and torpedoes. (Although FFG felt the need to nerf torps again so deadeye is small ship only ensuring that torpedoes go back on the shelf and are never used again).
As for IG-88D <Crew> the thing with hims is that he only works one way where as the title for brobots work both ways. If the agressor dies then IG-88 <Crew> might as well be airlocked. So far the only combo I've seen is Evol party buss and B, but still that doesn't tend to stand up in the meta.
Boba with IG-88D crew and IG-88C? Mind sharing your build for that?
Boba with 88C works pretty well in my experience.TLTs sort of melt through them. So now everyone has gone to hard hitting Dengaroo and torpedoes. (Although FFG felt the need to nerf torps again so deadeye is small ship only ensuring that torpedoes go back on the shelf and are never used again).
As for IG-88D <Crew> the thing with hims is that he only works one way where as the title for brobots work both ways. If the agressor dies then IG-88 <Crew> might as well be airlocked. So far the only combo I've seen is Evol party buss and B, but still that doesn't tend to stand up in the meta.
Boba with IG-88D crew and IG-88C? Mind sharing your build for that?
Boba Fett
Fearlessness
Glitterstim
EU
IG-88D
IG-88C
PTL
HLC
Adv Sensors
Autothrusters
Title
98 points
You can fill in the extra points to taste or just leave it as is. If you pull it off right you can end up with Boba at Range 1 with rerolls and an evade token. Wouldn't say it is top tier but Boba is a tough nut to crack at Range 1. Go after Iggy and get slammed by Boba. Go for Boba and Iggy pounds you with the HLC from afar. Effective, but can be tough to fly.
Brobots got replaced by defenders.
The main problem with Step-Bros is that no other ships work with C without spending some points for Engine Upgrade. Also only 3 ships work with B; the Firespray, G1-a Starfighter(with title), or the YV-666. And, of course, nothing works with D.
So that pretty much leaves A or C for the most choices of combos. Swarms aren't much of a thing here and probably aren't much of an issue in most places; so you are left with C and spending 5 points(Crew + EU) to make it work and losing a mod/crew slot; or to combo with a firespray or Houndstooth with B. As many have pointed out, to me the IG88D crew is... well, lackluster.
There just imo isn't anything I would want to pair with a Brobot other than another Brobot. I am trying to work up a list with 2 Bro's and the new quadjumper; though I wont be able to run them anywhere close to how I prefer. I suppose if you have a good Boba build it might pair well with a Bro. Or using B with Moralo would be a nice range of fire.
And, of course, nothing works with D.
Which is why thats the crew card
I believe IG-88 crew has great potntial, but the right partner isn't there, yet. Maybe Assaj, but I wouldn't know how to build that exactly at the moment.
And, of course, nothing works with D.
Which is why thats the crew card
I believe IG-88 crew has great potntial, but the right partner isn't there, yet. Maybe Assaj, but I wouldn't know how to build that exactly at the moment.
lol yeah I didn't actually think about the fact that nothing else has a 3-sloop. I was meaning because he was the crew >.<
Assaj could be useful with A or C, If you went C it would mean you would prolly want Push the Limit as your talent. Since you would lose out on Gyro Targeting, and would want to boost when needed for the evade and still do other things.
BroBots are still OK, but they are no long tier 1. Due to general powercreep they just don't quite have the tools and jousting value to stand up consistently to the best squads. If you want to play a competitive squad at the highest levels then you're probably not flying BroBots.
Here are all the IG88s that were 6-2 or better at Worlds 2015:
It feels like brobots just needs more options. They have a ton of slots but, with the exception of crackshot, pretty much all thier tools havnt improved.
HLC or Mangler is still the only real choice
Autothrusters is glued to them.
FCS might as well be glued to them (especially if you're HLC and IGgy B)
Bombs are an afterthought at best (and I love bombs!)
Glimmerstim Vs. BMST Vs. Dampners is just now a choice
EPT is a choice...ish.
And not a one of those things has really changed; they feel stale and havnt had a new toy to choose from in a long time.
#20 (6-2, 30, 1062) - Bob Randall2015 Regionals Winner: Pittsburgh, PA, USA2015 NOVA Open Top 4IG88B&C + VI + HLC + FCS + Inertial Dampeners + Autothrusters + IG-2000
This is the list I had been running. Had a lot of success locally. It will be missed.
It sounds like their hasn't been a lot of change to 'BroBots' with the last couple releases (HoR, Wave IX, and Rogue One). Going forward it looks like I'll be focusing on SingleBot and Friend or the IG-88D crew card.
Dengaroo simply counter IGs list. It's a meta thing.
...aaand Asajj doesn't help too
Edited by CerveDefinitely power creep and lack of new tools. I brought them to a fairly big tourney recently and they didn't hold up like they used to. In a world with Fenn Rau, free tractors, and even bombs my Iggies could use some love.
Funny enough things like Dengaroo and Defenders are not the worst matchup.
#20 (6-2, 30, 1062) - Bob Randall
2015 Regionals Winner: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
2015 NOVA Open Top 4
IG88B&C + VI + HLC + FCS + Inertial Dampeners + Autothrusters + IG-2000
This is the list I had been running. Had a lot of success locally. It will be missed.
It sounds like their hasn't been a lot of change to 'BroBots' with the last couple releases (HoR, Wave IX, and Rogue One). Going forward it looks like I'll be focusing on SingleBot and Friend or the IG-88D crew card.
Majorjuggler sure knows a lot about that Bob guy.
#20 (6-2, 30, 1062) - Bob Randall
2015 Regionals Winner: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
2015 NOVA Open Top 4
IG88B&C + VI + HLC + FCS + Inertial Dampeners + Autothrusters + IG-2000
This is the list I had been running. Had a lot of success locally. It will be missed.
It sounds like their hasn't been a lot of change to 'BroBots' with the last couple releases (HoR, Wave IX, and Rogue One). Going forward it looks like I'll be focusing on SingleBot and Friend or the IG-88D crew card.
Majorjuggler sure knows a lot about that Bob guy.
funny how you never see the two of them at the same time...