WHich is why I got over it quickly.
Rogue One was AMAZING. New Xwings....Beware Spoilers
The only thing I was kinda meh about was that X-wings and Y-wings should have shields, but in all movies, 1 hit means they die.
The one exception was I think Wedge in the trench run, who got hit but got out. But other than that, I don't think there were much 'shield hits' in all movies on the rebel fighters...
I'm going to keep an eye out next watch but I thought I spotted a couple flickers that could have been shield hits?
Luke took a couple of hits that got through the shields but did minimal damage - the second hit damaging but not destroying R2.
That's one thing I'm disappointed with with Star Wars in general. Back in the day, we were told ships had shields, but you never actually got to see them because they didn't have a special effect for it.
But in all that time, in all the remakes and special editions and prequels, they never added a visual effect to shields. You see lots of them on ground units in the prequels, but not on space ships.
It's really sad that there's this thing that the original Independence Day does better than Star Wars...
How big the ISD is rather unimportant when all the kinetic energy it has is from the engines of a tiny corvette. Those two ISDs colliding has the energy equivalent of the 2nd ISD colliding directly with the corvette.
Well now, see, you're falling into the trap of trying to apply real physics to a fictional technology.
You have no idea if the size of the ISD is unimportant because you have no idea how these made up tractor beams work.
Also this.They were in fairly low orbit so you've also got the weight of the disabled ISD. It was probably taking all the backup power it had not to fall on the shield gate.
I meant I. Rogue One I thought I saw flickers. Could be wrong but it's just another excuse to rewatch it.
That's one thing I'm disappointed with with Star Wars in general. Back in the day, we were told ships had shields, but you never actually got to see them because they didn't have a special effect for it.
But in all that time, in all the remakes and special editions and prequels, they never added a visual effect to shields. You see lots of them on ground units in the prequels, but not on space ships.
I think you see the ripples when they're shot at but there's not a visible field over them.
That's one thing I'm disappointed with with Star Wars in general. Back in the day, we were told ships had shields, but you never actually got to see them because they didn't have a special effect for it.
But in all that time, in all the remakes and special editions and prequels, they never added a visual effect to shields. You see lots of them on ground units in the prequels, but not on space ships.
I think you see the ripples when they're shot at but there's not a visible field over them.
Exactly. Shields are invisible until hit. Then they release a blue spark or little white flash where the laser hit them.
You can see the blue sparks when Jango Fett is shooting at Obi-Wan's ship in Episode II.
You can clearly see the white flashes in all OT movies. Specialy clear on Episode V during the Battle of Hoth.
Also in Episode I, when Anakin resets the N-1 fighter after crashing inside the Federation ship. When the shield powers up, you can briefly see it covering the ship and R2-D2's head.
Edited by AzrapseGeneral Syndulla should be her father, right? ;-)
Could be, but he hasn't joined the Rebellion in Rebels and seems to have no intention of doing so. He's focus on protecting Ryloth, and that seems to be the only thing that matters to him.
However Chopper is in the movie, and that's confirmed by Pabo from LFL. The Ghost is also there, so it seems the most likely answer was they were talking about Hera.
@all, it would have been nice to see a more one-sided Space Battle. It seems to be a huge waste of time building these SD if they can't even handle a company of Y-WINGs and a TUGBOAT.
Perhaps you missed the sh1tl0ad of rebel capital ships that those two star destroyers had to deal with? I counted at least 5 frigates, same number of CR-90s, a lot of hammerhead ones, the big new rebel capital ship... and my numbers are quite conservative. All those ships weren't probably just looking pretty. They were firing turbolasers at the destroyers.
Plus I saw X-Wing squadrons attacking the star destroyers' shield generators and blowing them up.
Then, and only then, came the group of Y-wings with ion torpedoes to disable them.
The space battle looks spot on after my 23 years of playing the X-Wing PC simulators. The star destroyers are great at keeping a civilian fleet under control thru fear. But they are not invulnerable against a party of capital ships and bombers doing exactly what is needed to knock them out.
The hammerhead part was just a bit of sadism by the Rebel admiral, even if effective at destroying the shield gate.
Also, as others say, it was a surprise attack. It caught the Empire with their pants down. They weren't expecting an attack. They didn't even have a proper enemy until that day.
I think there were 2 Nebulons, 3-4 corellian corvettes, 2-3 dormean gunships (the braha'tok or however you spell it), plus a couple of hammerhead corvettes and GR75 transports. The Mon Cal ship (identified as the Profundity in the visual guide, a MC-75 cruiser) is 1,200 metres in length and appears to be one of the first mon cal ship ever retrofitted for military duty and it's armaments (sourced again from the visual guide) aren't even half that of an ISD. That's not an especially big fleet, honestly, made of mostly small ships that would maybe be able to stand toe-to-toe with one ISD - but two should be wrecking house.
Honestly, going off from pretty much everything ever written about Star Destroyers in the old canon - the two stationed above Scarif should have been able to decimate the rebel fleet. Couple that with the obvious fighter advantage - Red, Blue and Gold squadron,possibly Green squadron too - so 24 x-wings and 24 y-wings tops - against a massive swarm of TIEs (the station's garrison on its own appeared to be at least twice the size of the rebel squadrons, if not way more). Fighting against Star Destoryers was always a delaying action in the games you mention - you needed to hold them off long enough for your fleet to complete its task and jump out. The fact that those are games and a single x-wing could take down an ISD by itself is more an indicator of game mechanics, than of the actual battle capabilities.
What Vader and the Devastator do at the end - that's what a Star Destroyer is. He comes in and in less than a minute wrecks a Nebulon, a couple of corvettes and the Profundity is immobilised and ready to be boarded. The battle shouldn't have been exactly one-sided . . . but from what we saw it was looking like an almost easy rebel victory.
I kinda disagree... what I saw was: Blue squadron getting anihallated. Red and Gold Squadron losing at least 1/3 to 1/2 of their force. And before the Devastator even showed up at least 3 and likely more corvettes/frigates get blown to smithereens. Plus the few extra that get blown up once Vader does show up. And that's not even counting the rebel ground troop losses. I don't think the battle was as one sided as some are making it out to be.
BTW does anyone have a name or picture of the trooper carrier Tie Striker?
Same question I'm combing the forums trying to answer. Anyone?
Don't believe it's been revealed yet.
BTW does anyone have a name or picture of the trooper carrier Tie Striker?
Same question I'm combing the forums trying to answer. Anyone?
I have done the same and came up empty. It is not even in any of the visual books for the movie. Weird that Lego, Hasbro and FFG are letting a ship just sit there.
As far as this games forum goes - someone tell me how two Imperial ISD I's would fare against a fleet comprising of a Mon Calamari Cruiser,escorted by a couple of Nebulon B Frigates and several corvettes in a game of Armada.
The ISDs would be floating piles of junk. This coming from an imperial player.
But as we saw in ESB, asteroids can do severe damage to a shielded SD.
After the ISDs were in the asteroid field over an unknown amount of time taking an unknown amount of impacts. And we only see the asteroid exploding and the transmission beeing cut off. The asteroid could have simply damaged only the communications or the shield interaction could have caused interferences.
That's one thing I'm disappointed with with Star Wars in general. Back in the day, we were told ships had shields, but you never actually got to see them because they didn't have a special effect for it.
But in all that time, in all the remakes and special editions and prequels, they never added a visual effect to shields. You see lots of them on ground units in the prequels, but not on space ships.
It's really sad that there's this thing that the original Independence Day does better than Star Wars...
Well now, see, you're falling into the trap of trying to apply real physics to a fictional technology.How big the ISD is rather unimportant when all the kinetic energy it has is from the engines of a tiny corvette. Those two ISDs colliding has the energy equivalent of the 2nd ISD colliding directly with the corvette.
You have no idea if the size of the ISD is unimportant because you have no idea how these made up tractor beams work.
Also this.They were in fairly low orbit so you've also got the weight of the disabled ISD. It was probably taking all the backup power it had not to fall on the shield gate.
In the battle of Coruscant, in the background, there is a Lucrehulk with blue shield flashes all over it.
Tractor beams are overrated. The only one which does anything in the movies is the one on the Death Star
Tractor beams are overrated. The only one which does anything in the movies is the one on the Death Star
Indeed, we have also never seen Tractor beams used to push an object away (as happens in Star Trek). For all we know, they are pull-only in which case they would not have helped at Scariff.
And Vader. OMFG. Vader. I cried.
Yep. Loved the Vader humor, "Don't choke on your asperations"
Eh, the pun was groan-worthy, but seeing him get to work at the end was amazing.
Edited by kris40kGroanworthy or not, the pun was very much in line with Vader/Anakin.
Groanworthy or not, the pun was very much in line with Vader/Anakin.
It reminds me of the scene from RotS book:
We were promised a reward, a handsome reward.
Vader - I am your reward; you don't find me handsome?
General Syndulla should be her father, right? ;-)
Could be, but he hasn't joined the Rebellion in Rebels and seems to have no intention of doing so. He's focus on protecting Ryloth, and that seems to be the only thing that matters to him.
However Chopper is in the movie, and that's confirmed by Pabo from LFL. The Ghost is also there, so it seems the most likely answer was they were talking about Hera.
His daughter being killed by the Empire would be a pretty strong motivation to join the Rebels. Just saying.
BTW does anyone have a name or picture of the trooper carrier Tie Striker?
Same question I'm combing the forums trying to answer. Anyone?
Confirmed by Filoni that General Syndulla is indeed Hera.
General Syndulla should be her father, right? ;-)
Could be, but he hasn't joined the Rebellion in Rebels and seems to have no intention of doing so. He's focus on protecting Ryloth, and that seems to be the only thing that matters to him.
However Chopper is in the movie, and that's confirmed by Pabo from LFL. The Ghost is also there, so it seems the most likely answer was they were talking about Hera.
His daughter being killed by the Empire would be a pretty strong motivation to join the Rebels. Just saying.
Groanworthy or not, the pun was very much in line with Vader/Anakin.
It reminds me of the scene from RotS book:
We were promised a reward, a handsome reward.
Vader - I am your reward; you don't find me handsome?
Kinda reminds me of the boss that tells sh*tty jokes, but he thinks he's hilarious because his subordinates are scared shitless of him so they all laugh anyways.