secret promo charakters ?

By gonrhade, in Talisman

It's still weird why the text (ability)from forest, black witch) (or crags&forest djinn) is different than the other characters of fantasy flight.

I think that it is a mistake from mephisto. Normally you can always choose to roll a die in the forest, crags, but the german words does not say that.

This character was not so difficult to translate.

She has some sort of horse ability, and also a bit from the amazone.

I like the Black Witch gran_risa.gif

maybe mephisto ued an old board, and set only the cards in 4th edition look.

the dark servant seems like that with this, here is the tink with the amory and weapons. in the 3rd edition the card said what iten (helm, sword you start.

in the 4th it is normal that weapons must buy to boost you status.

dark servant

strengh 2

craft 4

fate 4

gold -

life 4

abilitys

you grip to another player, you may force him into a mental struggle. if you are attacked by another player you do not, it must tuen

- If you on a spirited Trifest, you can a different player, the latter immediately put in your attacks. the spirit goes immediately to the field of the chosen.

-The following cards fall in a draft of 1-4 to you, if another player pulls: devil, Mephistopheles, and phantom.

-at the cemetery and the Enchanted glades you may choose instead to roll the dice whether you have a living point, a spell or a teleport to a beliebieges field will receive the same region.

-you may, the town, the tavern, the village or not voluntarily enter the castle. you are forced to enter one of these locations to the opportunities you may not use this resort.

- Except you must not use the rune sword weapon in battle. you must also bear no armor and no helmet. (better you canot use them)

start Cemetery

evil

Satan Servant

Strength 2, Craft 4, Life 4, Gold,- Fate 4, alignment: Evil, Start: Graveyard

-When you attack another character, you may choose to make the
attack psychic combat. You may not do this when you are attacked
by another character.

- If you encounter a Spirit, you may choose another
player which is attacked by this Spirit. The Spirit
immediately moves to the space of the chosen.

- You can claim the following cards, with a roll of 1-4, when another player draws them. Devil, Mephistopheles, Phantom

- Instead of rolling a die on the graveyard, and on the Curse glade, you may choose to gain a life, spell, or teleport to a space in your region

- You may not voluntary enter the City, Tavern, Village, or castle. If you are forced to enter these locations, then you may not visit one of these places.

- You may not use a weapon in a fight except the Runesword. You may also not carry a armour or helmet.

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I use 3 translators to understand the text, and update it to english..

jikes is different from my bad gramer english, i im german and have tried 3 translators. and some where bad some delate the compeat words.

if your translations made sense for you omg what translate my transolator sorpresa.gif.

the german words are clear as they can on the orginal card.

gonrhade said:

jikes is different from my bad gramer english, i im german and have tried 3 translators. and some where bad some delate the compeat words.

if your translations made sense for you omg what translate my transolator sorpresa.gif.

the german words are clear as they can on the orginal card.

Well, all three translators i use have bad english.

They give a very weird answer. They use some words, but they are not fitting on it's place.

I need to make a new text in english, with the words i get from the translators.

Luckily, some abilities are known, because other characters have them.

PS: With the last ability, i wrote (fight)

i have the feeling that it must be changed to battle..

The Satan Servant is a interesting character.

He can almost not use weapons in a fight (battle?) except runesword, and he can not visit city etc

But the graveyard is a great place for getting some gifts..

He can become very dangerous for a other player, if he send spirits to him, especially if they are strong demonio.gif

The only problem i see is, that if he is changed good, then he can not try to become evil again by going to the village..

And he can not heal lives on other locations on the board.. so then he is in trouble..preocupado.gif

He must hope that he will not draw the angel..

maybe he could scarifice strangers or got enery from the ghost. ;)

the problem of this charakters is for me that they are in cains. if ffg creat new charackters the could made itens for balance . or nw strangers , monsters. .if a evil misstress comes in the next expansion the can not comand it because the name is not on the card.

if you reach another player in you may force him in psychic battle. if you are attacked from another player, you may not this act. if you defeat another charackter in psychic battle and take him life-sharp from you can accept hisform. if you take over gestalt another player, you use his topical worth for strengthens and talent as long as you his gestalt behälst. other abilitys cannot be taken over.

if you lose one life-sharp you accept immediately yours own gestalt.

if you a foreign one hit you are able to another gestalt anehmen to the foreign one sympathetically appears. if you must throw dice for the foreign one, hence, you may add sharp to ergebnis.

you are able to any time again yours normal form. even if you in toad transforms became.

gonrhade said:

maybe he could scarifice strangers or got enery from the ghost. ;)

the problem of this charakters is for me that they are in cains. if ffg creat new charackters the could made itens for balance . or nw strangers , monsters. .if a evil misstress comes in the next expansion the can not comand it because the name is not on the card.

that's true, the names are already on the card.

But if more alignment adventure cards will be made, then there is more chance that the Satan Servant can change back to evil, by drawing the cards.

still... the chance to draw the angel from a 290 card deck, is not so high..

And if it happens, then he must hope that Mephistopheles will be drawn soondemonio.gifunless the card has show up already..

*next bump for two missing Character cards* gui%C3%B1o.gif

Nemomon said:

*next bump for two missing Character cards* gui%C3%B1o.gif

Hi Nemomon,

Sorry that i have not update the last 2 characters.

I thought that no one else care about it..

I will translate the last 2 characters soongui%C3%B1o.gif

FFG logged me out, so I didn't cared about Logging In back. I did that just for reminding, that You didn't translated remaining two Characters. I'm actually have them here, and I'm planning to play with them, so You know, I would like to have translations of all of them.

Thanks happy.gif

Nemomon said:

FFG logged me out, so I didn't cared about Logging In back. I did that just for reminding, that You didn't translated remaining two Characters. I'm actually have them here, and I'm planning to play with them, so You know, I would like to have translations of all of them.

Thanks happy.gif

I understand.

It feels good to do something for my friendshappy.gif

I will work on it soon.

I've been waiting in suspense to see the last two also, Velhart. I just didn't want to add any unnecessary messages to the thread.

So count this a "thank you" for your translating work.

agreed...thanks for doin' this for us blokes.aplauso.gif

Ok, Velhart and thanks gran_risa.gif

Hi Velhart,

Let me add my thanks for your hard workgran_risa.gif

Cheers

You do realise that gonrhade has posted the German versions of the missing characters with a "Google" translation on pages 7 and 10 of this thread?

Oke Guys,

It's finally time for the next update !

Sorry to keep you waiting ! happy.gif

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Update 11 !!

Goblin Shaman

Strength: 2, Craft: 4, Life:4, Gold: -, Fate: 4, Alignment: Evil, Start: Crags


- You do not have to battle against goblins and Ogres

- If you defeat a Goblin, you can take it as a follower, instead of keeping him as a trophy.

- When a player draws a monster card, you can send a goblin follower to battle it. If the goblin follower is defeated, then it goes to the discard pile.

- Instead of losing a life, you may sacrifice a goblin.

- You begin the game with one spell

Thanks, Velhart. So, only Shapeshifter is missing.

Velhart said:

Goblin Shaman

- When a player draws a monster card, you can send a goblin follower to battle it. If the goblin follower is defeated, then it goes to the discard pile.

Does this mean sending a goblin follower off to anywhere to fight someone else's monster? Or is it only Monsters that Goblin Shaman draws? Either way, what happens if the goblin wins? The card's text seems incomplete and might lead to disagreements during play.

JCHendee said:

Velhart said:

Goblin Shaman

- When a player draws a monster card, you can send a goblin follower to battle it. If the goblin follower is defeated, then it goes to the discard pile.

Does this mean sending a goblin follower off to anywhere to fight someone else's monster? Or is it only Monsters that Goblin Shaman draws? Either way, what happens if the goblin wins? The card's text seems incomplete and might lead to disagreements during play.

Hmm... There is something more. gonrhade translated is as:

if you have a player or a face-up monster attacking, you can put in your leave a goblin fighting companion. is defeated the goblin companion whose ticket is stored.

So, I would assume: or when we (Goblin Shaman) are attacked by Character or face-up Monster, or when any Character draws it from Adventure deck, so that player is not fighting it (so, no possible trophy for him).

What happens if the Goblin wins? I think like usually - end of turn, Goblin can battle another fight. Opposing Character is losing a life, and may not use any Armour.

JCHendee said:

Velhart said:

Goblin Shaman

- When a player draws a monster card, you can send a goblin follower to battle it. If the goblin follower is defeated, then it goes to the discard pile.

Does this mean sending a goblin follower off to anywhere to fight someone else's monster? Or is it only Monsters that Goblin Shaman draws? Either way, what happens if the goblin wins? The card's text seems incomplete and might lead to disagreements during play.

Hi JC,

The translation program was not correct this time.

I have changed it now. ( sorry for the mistakes)

ability 3: If you attack a player or an uncovered monster, you can send a goblin follower to battle it. If the Goblin follower is defeated, then it goes to the discard pile.

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The third ability from the german text is incomplete. Nothing is said that you can keep it as a trophy,if the goblin wins the battle.

(Let's say for now, that you may keep it..)

I also don't understand why they use the word ( uncovered)

Edit: It must probably be the first encounter so it lays face up on the board etc

Hey, V., thanks for the clarification. Sometimes words in one language translated by machine are (1) too literal, (2) have no direct equivalent by core meaning, or (3) both. Face-up, uncovered, upturned would all refer to any (not just the top) card previously drawn and placed on a space. BUT, I'm not sure even that is accurate.

It seems more like the G.S. has the ability to sacrifice a goblin as a champion when attacked. There may also be a translation problem with the term "monster" in English; it may be that the German term, whatever it was, is better translated as "creature"... which would mean any Enemy card or any opponent generated by a space or card. Here is how I would word that ability by the English standards of other characters and cards. Here's my take on the Goblin Shaman based on English versions of standard cards

Goblin Shaman
Strength: 2, Craft: 4, Life:4, Gold: 1, Fate: 4, Alignment: Evil, Start: Crags

  1. You begin the game with 1 Spell.
  2. You may evade any goblin or ogre opponents in battle.
  3. If you defeat a Goblin in combat, you may take it as a Follower instead of a trophy.
  4. When you are attacked in battle by another character or a creature, you may send a goblin Follower to fight in your place. If the goblin is defeated, then it is discarded; if it wins, you gain no trophy and may only take a Life from another character.
  5. You may sacrifice (discard) a goblin Follower instead of losing a Life

Anyone have a different take based purely on standards from the English edition of the game?

JCHendee said:

Hey, V., thanks for the clarification. Sometimes words in one language translated by machine are (1) too literal, (2) have no direct equivalent by core meaning, or (3) both. Face-up, uncovered, upturned would all refer to any (not just the top) card previously drawn and placed on a space. BUT, I'm not sure even that is accurate.

It seems more like the G.S. has the ability to sacrifice a goblin as a champion when attacked. There may also be a translation problem with the term "monster" in English; it may be that the German term, whatever it was, is better translated as "creature"... which would mean any Enemy card or any opponent generated by a space or card. Here is how I would word that ability by the English standards of other characters and cards. Here's my take on the Goblin Shaman based on English versions of standard cards

Goblin Shaman
Strength: 2, Craft: 4, Life:4, Gold: 1, Fate: 4, Alignment: Evil, Start: Crags

  1. You begin the game with 1 Spell.
  2. You may evade any goblin or ogre opponents in battle.
  3. If you defeat a Goblin in combat, you may take it as a Follower instead of a trophy.
  4. When you are attacked in battle by another character or a creature, you may send a goblin Follower to fight in your place. If the goblin is defeated, then it is discarded; if it wins, you gain no trophy and may only take a Life from another character.
  5. You may sacrifice (discard) a goblin Follower instead of losing a Life

Anyone have a different take based purely on standards from the English edition of the game?

Hi JC

I appreciate your help, but i do not agree with the second and fourth ability.

About the second ability..( Nothing is said about evading goblins or ogres)

about the fourth ability. It just says attack. ( It also says monster, so i would stick with that. ( makes sense, because goblins, ogres etc are monsters)

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Here we go again...

- You begin the game with one Spell.

- You do not have to battle against Goblins and Ogres

- If you defeat a Goblin in combat, you may take it as a Follower instead of a trophy.

- When you attack a character or a monster, you may send a goblin Follower to fight in your place. If the goblin is defeated, then it is discarded.

- You may sacrifice (discard) a goblin Follower instead of losing a Life

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Nothing is said, that you can't keep the defeated enemy as a trophy if you attack it with a goblin follower, so i will stick to this:)

Otherwise it should be mentioned in the abilitygui%C3%B1o.gif

Is there miniatures for these characters ? gui%C3%B1o.gif