The CGI Tarkin/Leia was the best use of this technology ever put to screen. Knowing the characters are dead/total CGI adds to the Uncanny Valley feeling. It was well done.

I was deeply troubled by the first 15 minutes. I was getting very worried with the pacing, editing and the off feel in the post opening scene.

Once that passed it slowly ratcheted up and up and was mostly amazing fun. Finally death en mass! Even if it was totally safe for them to die due to where the film fits in the SW universe it was tense as ****. We knew the plans were going to get away but i was sweating buckets in the corridor scene.

Hammerhead corvette idea, best space battle since RoTJ. Those Tie Fighters getting deployed...

Even the awkward opening still had good moments and shades of grey. Yes rebel opertertives are actually shady assassin's cloaked in shades of grey, not the lovable do no wrong luck muppets of Rebels. Once the informant was shot in the back I started to go with it.

Once the informant was shot in the back I started to go with it

I thought it was really interesting that - especially on Jedha, a desert-like form of Jedi holy land - it made the Empire look like foreign occupiers from the more developed part of the galaxy, while the Rebels were desperate and vicious terrorists insurgents, who get their strength and purpose from religion.

If that strangely rhymes with our world, I don't think that's an accident.

Hehe yeah was thinking these are some Mujahideen looking mofos ;p

Also Rogue One drinking game, drink when somone says force. Pass out at Donnie Yens first scene.

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

I really liked the tarkin leia cgi! It was seamless to me

If that's a victory, it was a Pyrrhic one.

So a 6-5 then?

Basically it was intel sweep with rebels first player.... Losing everything but tantive iv with leia, raymus... Vader losing all but devastator, But rebels winning 6-5 via winning the objective

Bytheway, shouldn't someone talk to Mon Mothma about her wardrobe choices?

"I wonder how should I dress for this occasion.... Hmmmm... Yes... White and a long collar."

Stop judging, Mons knows what color she looks good in and how to accessorize. The things women leaders of rebellions have to put up with. Seriously, you never hear anyone complaining about how Darth Vader never mixes it up with a red cape, or switching out to a pink light saber now and then.

I heard that the original ending had Vader slaughtering all the rebels in a very gruesome way but they changed it somehow to make it less bloody.

I heard this too.

Decapitations, using the force to trigger grenades on the rebels' belts, ripping people in half with the force, etc. This was all stuff I read very early on and I definitely think Disney pulled the plug on that.

You could tell that Edwards had a bit of a leash though with what he could do. I get that Disney is trying to cater to the youngsters but Vader is supposed to be scary AF.

Yes you are never going to get rated R Vader from Disney... That said, Vader boarding scene left the distinct impression that not only is Vader a boss, close quarter combat is his specialty

Did anyone else think that the Mon Cal's name was Admiral Radish? He IS kinda earthy-looking...

He looked more like a turnip to me. I did love his sky floor though. The fish knows how to watch a battle.

He looked more like a turnip to me. I did love his sky floor though. The fish knows how to watch a battle.

In a Fishbowl.

Raddis was pretty awesome. It was of note that he and his Mon Cal buddies were blue and white, not the red and warm colors of the RotJ Mon Calamari. I really hope this isn't the last we've seen of him, but I can't see how he could have escaped Vader either on his flagship or the Tantive IV if he managed to board it. The only way I can think of is if he jumped in an escape pod when the ship was disabled, or if the command pod was blown off during the fight.

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

See, this is why Ramming is stupid. The Devastator didn't 'ram' the CR90. If it had rammed it it would have stopped in it's tracks, taken damage, the CR90 would have taken a single damage, and all would have been well.

Ramming in Armada is stupid, as evidenced by this movie.

.. Once you've spent enough on Armada that you equal the budget of the movie - You may complain about the differences in rule applications, and not before.

If ramming was more awesome, players would be doing more ramming than shooting at enemy starships. Ramming to damage by bypassing shields is already valid enough of a tactic without needing any more enhancement.

Raddis was pretty awesome. It was of note that he and his Mon Cal buddies were blue and white, not the red and warm colors of the RotJ Mon Calamari.

According to the Visual Guide, he was a differnt color because he was from the Northern parts of Mon Cala. They say that the other Mon Cals made fun of him and would call him names because he didn't like blisters on his hull.

But I think we can guess what's really going on here.

I really hope this isn't the last we've seen of him, but I can't see how he could have escaped Vader either on his flagship or the Tantive IV if he managed to board it. The only way I can think of is if he jumped in an escape pod when the ship was disabled, or if the command pod was blown off during the fight.

He was probably a few cell doors down from Leia when Han, Luke and Chewie came to break her out. Maybe if we listen more carefully to the jail-break scene we can here him yelling:

"Hey guys! I'm in here too! Lemme out!"

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

See, this is why Ramming is stupid. The Devastator didn't 'ram' the CR90. If it had rammed it it would have stopped in it's tracks, taken damage, the CR90 would have taken a single damage, and all would have been well.Ramming in Armada is stupid, as evidenced by this movie.

Did you miss that little part where a single hammerhead rammed into the side of a disabled ISD and pushed it into the other, destroying both of them?! There's no way the rebels would win in a heads up competition of firepower, but ballsy tactical decisions are what allows the Rebels to inflict some serious damage

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

See, this is why Ramming is stupid. The Devastator didn't 'ram' the CR90. If it had rammed it it would have stopped in it's tracks, taken damage, the CR90 would have taken a single damage, and all would have been well.

Ramming in Armada is stupid, as evidenced by this movie.

demanding a game to directly translate, in a realistic fashion, something that is completely based in fantasy to begin with is stupid!

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

See, this is why Ramming is stupid. The Devastator didn't 'ram' the CR90. If it had rammed it it would have stopped in it's tracks, taken damage, the CR90 would have taken a single damage, and all would have been well.Ramming in Armada is stupid, as evidenced by this movie.

Did you miss that little part where a single hammerhead rammed into the side of a disabled ISD and pushed it into the other, destroying both of them?! There's no way the rebels would win in a heads up competition of firepower, but ballsy tactical decisions are what allows the Rebels to inflict some serious damage

Which also would never have happened in Armada, because the Hammerhead would be unable to move into base contact with the ISD because that's not a thing you can do in Armada. Also notable is that the two ISDs were one on top of the other, if one were to look 'down' on the battle from a 2D point of view, and yet due to the three dimensional nature of space, neither of them was actually crashing into the other until one was ionised and then pushed into the other.

Again, ramming in Armada is stupid. It doesn't represent the 'reality' of space battles in Star Wars.

Loved the movie.

I just want to know how even having captured the rebel flagship and most of the crew the imps still had no idea where the rebel base was.

Was the rebel fleet itself at Yavin or just the fighters? The base may have been more political than operational and the fleet may not have actually known where it was, exactly.

Loved the movie.

I just want to know how even having captured the rebel flagship and most of the crew the imps still had no idea where the rebel base was.

Judging by the Vader scene, there were not any prisoners.

Was the rebel fleet itself at Yavin or just the fighters? The base may have been more political than operational and the fleet may not have actually known where it was, exactly.

I think the feeling is that the base was the central hub or hq for the Rebel counsel/Alliance. If it was destroyed, then the Rebellion was effectively crushed.

Devastator was so boss... Rolled in with extra blues and Vader rerolls, rammed a gr75 right off the bat... Smoked a neb, disabled mon cal etc etc... Wishing those other star destroyers would have more of an impact....

See, this is why Ramming is stupid. The Devastator didn't 'ram' the CR90. If it had rammed it it would have stopped in it's tracks, taken damage, the CR90 would have taken a single damage, and all would have been well.Ramming in Armada is stupid, as evidenced by this movie.

Did you miss that little part where a single hammerhead rammed into the side of a disabled ISD and pushed it into the other, destroying both of them?! There's no way the rebels would win in a heads up competition of firepower, but ballsy tactical decisions are what allows the Rebels to inflict some serious damage

Which also would never have happened in Armada, because the Hammerhead would be unable to move into base contact with the ISD because that's not a thing you can do in Armada. Also notable is that the two ISDs were one on top of the other, if one were to look 'down' on the battle from a 2D point of view, and yet due to the three dimensional nature of space, neither of them was actually crashing into the other until one was ionised and then pushed into the other.Again, ramming in Armada is stupid. It doesn't represent the 'reality' of space battles in Star Wars.

What are your proposed rule and maneuver tool changes that will fix what you hate about ramming and also accurately portray ships moving in three dimensions? Really I'd love to hear it.

Cause I love they way this game plays and get salty when people trash on it for unrealistic reasons

I imagine that there was only a day or so between the capture of the rebel ships and the destruction of the deathstar. Most prisoner were probably still in interrogation and reports still being finalised while Vader stuck a tracking beacon on the Falcon to confirm their suspicions. Also it's very likely that they jumped two or three times before the battle, cleared their nav data, etc before engaging just to make sure Yavin IV wouldn't be found in the case of their defeat or capture.

What are your proposed rule and maneuver tool changes that will fix what you hate about ramming and also accurately portray ships moving in three dimensions? Really I'd love to hear it.

Cause I love they way this game plays and get salty when people trash on it for unrealistic reasons

Scrap the movement system altogether and replace it with the one from BFG.

Use some of the ramming rules from BFG as well (essentially rams only happen if the moving player delivers the appropriate order).