Killing y-wings and hawk-13's? advice wanted

By Jukey, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

I play exclusively empire, and I've been running into a problem with my opponents build lately. It's basically the 1st place worlds list: MK-2, MC-30, 3 GR-75, 2 hawks, 2 1300, and a lot of y-wings. I've tried Palsy fleet, DemSU, double ISD, full 134 point fighter screens, and many more, but just keep getting shredded by the bomber spam. Any suggestions?

This is what I'm trying today

Vader don't like y-wings

Faction: Galactic Empire

Points: 398/400

Commander: Darth Vader

Assault Objective: Advanced Gunnery

Defense Objective: Fire Lanes

Navigation Objective: Superior Positions

[ flagship ] Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer (120 points)

- Darth Vader ( 36 points)

- Avenger ( 5 points)

- Skilled First Officer ( 1 points)

- Quad Laser Turrets ( 5 points)

- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)

- H9 Turbolasers ( 8 points)

= 182 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)

- Instigator ( 4 points)

- Quad Laser Turrets ( 5 points)

= 53 total ship cost

Raider-I Class Corvette (44 points)

- Impetuous ( 4 points)

- Quad Laser Turrets ( 5 points)

= 53 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)

- Suppressor ( 4 points)

- Expanded Hangar Bay ( 5 points)

- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)

= 40 total ship cost

1 Major Rhymer ( 16 points)

2 TIE Bomber Squadrons ( 18 points)

1 JumpMaster 5000 ( 12 points)

2 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 24 points)

Alright, mate. You seem to be a bit desperate, so here is some motivation, cheering for you, so let me share my wisdom with you. In world of warcraft, trolls say: stay away from the woodoo. Also, what is a natural counter to a list? A mirror list. Well, this isn't the exact copy list of what you are facing, but a bit more/different. As an imperial player, you just can smile into his face, and put Mr. Rhymer on the table. A nice combo of boosted comms with Rhymer allows you to reach out any corner of the galaxy to purge rebels, and this is what you exactly gonna do. Keep away from his ships (woodoo). Have your fighters in your red/blue (blue pref for some flak cover), and blue range of one of his ships. Smile at him again, and bomb the s**t out of him. Once youre done with it, repeat smiling, and you can spice it with raising your middle finger. No, ofc, Im not serious with these. Just with a plain imperial efficiency, wipe his forces out, shake his hand for playing a good match, and await a medal from the emperor himself;)

So, here is a list capable of doing this:

Faction: Galactic Empire
Points: 400/400

Commander: Admiral Motti

Assault Objective: Precision Strike
Defense Objective: Fighter Ambush
Navigation Objective: Superior Positions

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 35 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 35 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Imperial II-Class Star Destroyer (120 points)
- Admiral Motti ( 24 points)
- Relentless ( 3 points)
- Skilled First Officer ( 1 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 176 total ship cost

Gozanti-class Cruisers (23 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
= 27 total ship cost

2 TIE Advanced Squadrons ( 24 points)
2 JumpMaster 5000s ( 24 points)
1 Major Rhymer ( 16 points)
7 TIE Bomber Squadrons ( 63 points)

I hope I could help a bit. Long live the Emperor!

Edited by Coldhands

Mauler and ig88. Say goodbye to the hwks.

Thanks for the response, that's very good advice and list, but I'll need a third gozanti to pull it off(which I just need to make myself get one soon). It's funny, I've been thinking the lack of that 1 extra ship is most likely what's been holding my fleet building back lately.

Mauler and ig88. Say goodbye to the hwks.

Boba + Saber(soon) as well. For a granted 1 damage, warlord+h9 combo works well, and its also good against flotillas.

I should also mention that flight controllers and toryn farr show up a lot, making those y-wings a lot nastier in squad combat.

IG-88 with Soontir Fel, Mauler Mithil, Boba Fett, Dengar, and Darth Vader is a solid anti squadron ball. Dengar gives Counter 1 to Vader (who has escort), triggering Soontir Fel for a free damage. Mithil just bounces around like a spider monkey jacked on Mountain Dew dealing mass damage, Fett deals one on activation, and IG-88 ignores counter AND escort.

Toryn/FC-backed YT1300s/Y-wings dish out a LOT of anti-squad. Scatter is of limited use, both because it generates a decent amount of accs, and because of the sheer number of attacks. Not unbeatable, but do expect a ton of return fire. And that Toryn-counter on those YTs is extremely vexing.

Toryn/FC-backed YT1300s/Y-wings dish out a LOT of anti-squad. Scatter is of limited use, both because it generates a decent amount of accs, and because of the sheer number of attacks. Not unbeatable, but do expect a ton of return fire. And that Toryn-counter on those YTs is extremely vexing.

The New labda ace Will make ig88, vader, saber squadron, valen rudor even a bit more lucrative against those counters.