FULL OF SPOILERS!!! Rogue One discussion!

By DanteRotterdam, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

Vader always whips out a one-liner while choking someone:

"I find your lack of faith... disturbing."

"You have failed me for the last time."

"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."

This one fit nicely into the tradition.

And it was hidden under both her shirt and scarf. And he offered to trade it for "a glimpse into your future!"

Clearly Force-sensitive, but untrained.

I think he was basically the definition of Force Sensitive Exile.

I liked the Vader pun, but then I'm one of those weirdos that liked that Vader scene the most over the one where he killing people in the corridor (not that I didn't like that one, thought both scenes were **** awesome for different reasons). I felt like that whole scene showed just how menacing Vader could be just to talk to, and also showed that he was by this point not some foolish brute but had a brain in that helmet of his. "Putting the Lord in Dark Lord" so to speak.

Vader always whips out a one-liner while choking someone:

"I find your lack of faith... disturbing."

"You have failed me for the last time."

"Apology accepted, Captain Needa."

This one fit nicely into the tradition.

Reading, especially the Needa one, actually pushes home how fitting the pun is. People don't seem to realise it but Vader is a deadpan wisecracker.

Don't forget Vader also use one liners when he tempts fate.

"I have you now!"

"All too easy."

Now one from Anakin to prove he always liked one liners. It's just Anakin's weren't as deadpan.

"You underestimate my power!"

Something that I found interesting, production-wise...

When recording some of the new comm chatter for the space battle at Scarif, in addition to using existing footage from the original for Red and Gold Leaders, they had the actor who played Gold Leader record new dialogue for that comm chatter. Cool, but not the interesting part. They began writing comm chatter dialogue for Wedge, then remembered his exclamation at the Battle of Yavin: "Look at the size of that thing!" He'd never seen the Death Star before that moment, and so couldn't have been at Scarif.

I like that there was some thought out into the fan service.

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More on Saw's upcoming Rebels appearance.

Something that I found interesting, production-wise...

When recording some of the new comm chatter for the space battle at Scarif, in addition to using existing footage from the original for Red and Gold Leaders, they had the actor who played Gold Leader record new dialogue for that comm chatter. Cool, but not the interesting part. They began writing comm chatter dialogue for Wedge, then remembered his exclamation at the Battle of Yavin: "Look at the size of that thing!" He'd never seen the Death Star before that moment, and so couldn't have been at Scarif.

I like that there was some thought out into the fan service.

Only thing about Wedge is that the actor who plays him wants nothing to do with star wars, saying it ruined his career. Hence any likeness or mention of him likely would have incurred a lawsuit.

Just a interesting tadbit really. XD

Something that I found interesting, production-wise...

When recording some of the new comm chatter for the space battle at Scarif, in addition to using existing footage from the original for Red and Gold Leaders, they had the actor who played Gold Leader record new dialogue for that comm chatter. Cool, but not the interesting part. They began writing comm chatter dialogue for Wedge, then remembered his exclamation at the Battle of Yavin: "Look at the size of that thing!" He'd never seen the Death Star before that moment, and so couldn't have been at Scarif.

I like that there was some thought out into the fan service.

Only thing about Wedge is that the actor who plays him wants nothing to do with star wars, saying it ruined his career. Hence any likeness or mention of him likely would have incurred a lawsuit.

Just a interesting tadbit really. XD

The actor maybe, but Wedge Antilles did make an appearance in the current season of Rebels, so the inclusion of the character Wedge Antilles in other Star Wars media is still a possibility.

He was approached for a cameo appearance in TFA, but turned it down claiming it would have bored him, which given his prior experiences with the franchise mostly comprised of him being stuck in a box with blue/greenscreen around him, I can't exactly fault him for that belief.

Plus, if there was no chance of using Wedge as a character due to threat of lawsuit, they wouldn't have bothered coming with the potential comm chatter for that specific character in the first place.

I've never heard anything about Denis Lawson wanting nothing to do with it. Doesn't mean it's not so, just that I haven't heard anything about it. Boredom on set, I'd buy. But the former wouldn't seem to jive with visiting nephew Ewan McGregor on the set of TPM. But, one never knows.

Something that I found interesting, production-wise...

When recording some of the new comm chatter for the space battle at Scarif, in addition to using existing footage from the original for Red and Gold Leaders, they had the actor who played Gold Leader record new dialogue for that comm chatter. Cool, but not the interesting part. They began writing comm chatter dialogue for Wedge, then remembered his exclamation at the Battle of Yavin: "Look at the size of that thing!" He'd never seen the Death Star before that moment, and so couldn't have been at Scarif.

I like that there was some thought out into the fan service.

Wow, that's some weapons grade nerd continuity! I approve!

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(Subtitle: Arnold Schwarzenegger gives the thumbs up too)

If being Wedge Antilles ruined your career then I think you just aren't that good.

Put me in Star Wars, let it ruin me, please.

I suspect that being a bit actor in Star Wars is much like being a Enterprise Captain or a Doctor - you might be typecast forever and ever, but you will always have a steady stream of income from conventions until the sun grows cold.

Right, and being in something loved by millions that's brought so much joy to people you'd need a new unit of measurement to fit its scale is bad becauseee..........?..........

Because if you are an actor and you like acting, but never get to again because of one bit part, you might get a little annoyed

37 years later and they're given an option to get a part, even if in the type casting hell, which is a world wide phenomena, and they don't take it, they aren't annoyed, they're stupid.

Because if you are an actor and you like acting, but never get to again because of one bit part, you might get a little annoyed

95 projects to his credit in IMDB as opposed to, say, Harrison Ford's 72.

Tell us again how Denis couldn't/can't get work again because of on bit part?

Looking even closer at the body of work, he even voiced Wedge again in 2001 for the Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader video game, with what looks to be pretty steady work both before and after. I'm wondering where and when this decision to divorce himself from Star Wars occurred.

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95 projects to his credit in IMDB as opposed to, say, Harrison Ford's 72.

Tell us again how Denis couldn't/can't get work again because of on bit part?

Althouth to be fair - if Ford was getting rolls like Indy and Deckard and the President of "Get Off My Plane!" and Denis was getting rolls like "Spear Carrier #3" and "Corpse In The Background", I would say that Ford's 72 win out.

95 projects to his credit in IMDB as opposed to, say, Harrison Ford's 72.

Tell us again how Denis couldn't/can't get work again because of on bit part?

Althouth to be fair - if Ford was getting rolls like Indy and Deckard and the President of "Get Off My Plane!" and Denis was getting rolls like "Spear Carrier #3" and "Corpse In The Background", I would say that Ford's 72 win out.

True enough. At a glance, though, most appear to be named characters (being fair, though, so was Wedge), and I noticed a listing for 37 episodes of a tv series, for example. Most of the credits appear to be British projects, so I have no idea what kind of profile they have. Just seems a bit...odd...to suggests he blames a bit part for "ruining" a career that appears to be pretty steady.

I can't remember where I came across it, but I heard that prior to the interview were he quoted about being bored on set. That he turned it down because the part was not big enough. He wasn't interested in doing a Cameo, but would consider if they wrote a bigger part for him.

The person who was ostensibly the frakkin' star of the original trilogy only had a cameo! The female lead of the original trilogy was little more than a glorified cameo! The focus was squarely on the new characters. Did he mention how much bigger a role he had in mind? I mean, yeah, at the end of the day, it's his choice to make, and if he didn't want to film "just" a cameo, that's his right. But I'd just be curious to know what might have enticed him back.

Hmm, looking over his IMDb page, there's a couple of titles in there that catches my eye - Bergerac was pretty big back in the eighties (mind you, he was in one episode) and more recently Jekyll, the show that Steven Moffat was doing before Doctor Who - but yeah, I'm not up on my BBC shows to know if those were big or not.

Paging Marcy! Please report to Isle 2 for cleanup!

The flip side of all of that is the con circuit that was mentioned earlier. While it isn't the performance side of the business (well...maybe some of them are putting on an act), as far as paying the bills goes, it's become something of a cash cow.

In a recent article that I read, Firefly's Jewel Staite said that she's turned down paid acting gigs in favor of cons at times. A week of 12+ hour days for $10,000 vs a 3-4 day con for upwards of $40,000 was a no-brainer; while pregnant and (to quote Jewel) "essentially unemployable," she did cons for a "living." She also said she knows many an actor who's dying to get a genre show or movie to get into the con circuit.

Back on topic: Saw it for the second time last night. Still awesome! Caught Chopper this time around. May be seeing it again on Saturday.

Having a few seconds on screen in 3 movies that is quickly forgotten by the average movie goer can type cast you as, "Rebellious Pilot", forever? I could see Harrison Ford worrying about type casting after Ep. IV, but not this guy.

The average viewer of Star Wars isn't going to even recognize the actor who played a bit part requiring a helmet and orange faceplate.