Based on a poster seen at Toys R Us, looks like Saw will be making the transition back to anmimated form on Rebels.

He's so young looking in this! How many years prior to Rogue One and ANH does Rebels take place!? X_x

5 years, each season going down by a year, so in season 3 it will be 3 years.

5 years, each season going down by a year, so in season 3 it will be 3 years.

That character aged really fast just prior to Rogue One. X_x

Time isn't always the kindest of things to people.

5 years, each season going down by a year, so in season 3 it will be 3 years.

That character aged really fast just prior to Rogue One. X_x

It happens.

I'm guessing his involvement may boil down to one of two things:

• A flashback of sorts to events that he had a hand in some years prior to the series (which may also give us a young Jyn Erso on screen).
• It will tell the story of the proverbial last straw for the Alliance, the one that caused them to break ties with Saw, and the subsequent couple of years on Jedha really took their toll on him.

5 years, each season going down by a year, so in season 3 it will be 3 years.

That character aged really fast just prior to Rogue One. X_x

It happens.

I'm guessing his involvement may boil down to one of two things:

• A flashback of sorts to events that he had a hand in some years prior to the series (which may also give us a young Jyn Erso on screen).
• It will tell the story of the proverbial last straw for the Alliance, the one that caused them to break ties with Saw, and the subsequent couple of years on Jedha really took their toll on him.

Yes, and I'm going to assume he get tore up during said incident too since he's seems to be like Darth Vader and dependent on both a respirator and cybernetics to survive. I wonder if the new Rebels Arc is going to show how they seperated ways? I don't find the timing to be mere coincidence. In a way, Rogue One Saw reminds me of Vader, two characters that are willing to go to extremes to get the job done. And they are almost two sides of the same coin. Both are extremely dark grey characters but one works for the "good" guys while the other works for the "villains."

He has a Bor Gullet scar same as Bodi that might explain something.

Eep, that thing hentai'ed his brains w/ his ecchi tentacles? X_x

Ick.

Also, anyone get a "Blade Runner" feel from the first several scenes of the Movie w/ the Rebel Agents in the City District?

It just seems that this movie was not only a Star Wars film, but a love letter to Blade Runner, Mad Max, and modern (80's-present) Vietnam and WWII War Films in general (Apocalypse Now, Platoon, Private Ryan, etc...).

Oh and i realized that this films brings another little bit of legends back into canon: the name Galen comes from TFU's Galen Marek, and while Rogue One's Galen Erso is very different from Starkiller, he too has a fundamental role in helping the rebellion.

I may watch this again when it comes out on video to see if I can actually spot all the Ghost/VCX-100 appearances, as well as the scene where R2-KT shows up; I know she's at the Yavin base at least, but not exactly sure where.

You can see KT on Yavin just as they are going to commandeer the cargo shuttle and go to Scarif.

The TPK was sad but almost necessary i think.

It punctuated the ultimate sacrifice paid to buy the RA the desperate "Hail Mary" pass they threw at the Battle of Yavin.

And that only came after a second ultimate sacrifice by Obi-Wan so that Luke and crew could pull of their bat-guani-insane-seat-of-their-pants "plan."

In other words, in those hours-days the entire fate of the RA - and the galaxy - hung by a thread.

Let's try to stop making this topic a prequel and/or TFA bashing topic.

Not all criticism is "bashing."

Insofar as its measured and clearly expressed, I don't have a problem with it.

I'd have to say Vader's end scene is top 3 best scenes in the movie. Assault on Leia's ship in Ep 4 will likely never be unseated. End scene with Luke and Leia on the medical frigate as the Falcon flies away also very likely unbeatable. It was **** good though.

Totally agree. Also the assault on Leia's ship is one of the few moments when the stormtroopers actually hit their targets realibly.

To quote BA Baracus, they were "on the jazz."

Oh and i realized that this films brings another little bit of legends back into canon: the name Galen comes from TFU's Galen Marek, and while Rogue One's Galen Erso is very different from Starkiller, he too has a fundamental role in helping the rebellion.

That's really stretching to link two entirely different characters that have nothing in common save sharing a given name.

Let's try to stop making this topic a prequel and/or TFA bashing topic.

Not all criticism is "bashing."

Insofar as its measured and clearly expressed, I don't have a problem with it.

I never said all criticism is bashing.

But I prefer not to let this topic go down a certain path.

Just saw it. It's alright, but very overrated. The Vader sequence at the end was very entertaining, but the unnatural Tarkin and Leia masks were unintentionally creepy. The CGI isn't there yet.

I'd rate it a 5 or 6 out of ten, average flick, nothing more. The special effects, other than the cgi masks, were outstanding. Acting was good, but nobody truly stood out. It's decent and I'll definitely buy it and watch it more, but best Star Wars since Empire it is not.

Oh and i realized that this films brings another little bit of legends back into canon: the name Galen comes from TFU's Galen Marek, and while Rogue One's Galen Erso is very different from Starkiller, he too has a fundamental role in helping the rebellion.

That's really stretching to link two entirely different characters that have nothing in common save sharing a given name.

True. It's like kybo ren inspiring the name kylo ren, it doesn't mean that kylo was actually based on a fat pirate.

Will read everyone's debate in the morning, still processing myself (and I need to get to bed), but here is my TL;DNR thoughts:

* Michael Giacchino crushed the soundtrack. Much better than the flacid E7 score that Williams did.

* I didn't like the herky-jerky action sequence in the city streets at the start. But this is just that the art of composing an action sequence is dead in Hollywood and not so much Star Wars' fault.

* Vader's neck looked wrong, his helmet didn't sit well on his shoulders.

* The CGI Cushing looked really weird. They really should have gotten that dude from Sith to play the part.

* Otherwise, a fine Star Wars flick. Would watch again!

The rankings may change on second viewings, but for the moment, in descending order:

- Empire

- New Hope

- Jedi

- Sith

- Rouge one

- Clones

- Phantom Menace

- Force Awakens

Mostly agree, just I would place rogue one below force awakens in the ranking, mainly because the movie felt so much as I had seen it already a dozen times over. It was so formulated and full of tropes and memes that it was a rather boring story. The most surpring thing is the movie were the physical oddities in the cgi and not a single element of the plot when you accepted that they really play this movie by the book like any other hollywood snore buster of the last 20 years at least. Tarkin was ok, Leia felt a little off, Star Citizen has imho better in-engine render sequences for their cast, but it was still a passable experience. As my time is rare these days … I am not sure if the movie was worth my time, I certainly would not want to watch it again in full sleep inducing length, but at the same time it is nice to have seen it once to at least keep up to date on star wars. I still love star wars, I just becomes a guilty experience with little pleasure. I am sure why wife ain't going with me next time, she was might pissd about wasting her time and complained the whole way home about the movie and not enough R2-D2 and C1-1OP. But I guess with less expectations it would have been a passable movie.

Passable. What an insult for a star wars movie, not even the prequel trilogy was passable.

I love the movie absolutely. The next day I ran to see it again and planning to go for the 3rd time.

I love it for:

1) Fast transitions between the scenes.

2) Rebels are murderers when necessary. The cause justifies the means. The rebellion is a mess with factions. It is real galaxy finally.

3) TPK, the Imperial war machine may be run by the incompetent officers but in the end they will prevail thanks to the numbers.

4) Stormtroopers finally learned to hit their targets. Better late than never.

5) Great space and land battle at the same time. Endor forest battle was not great, because "An entire legion of my best troops awaits them." and then we see 1 or 2 Ewoks killed.....

6) Bitter irony when Krennic watches his toy "killing" him.

7) 30 sec with Vader at the end.

8) The main characters.

My ranking: TESB -> ANH -> R1 -> ROTJ -> TCW -> TPM -> .................... -> ROTS -> AOTC.

I saw this movie last night. My thoughts:

Initially, I was somewhat put off by the lack of opening crawl. Certainly I wasn't LOST going into it, but as a Star Wars fan that's to be expected; however, one of my friends ended up with a clipped ear in the cinema because he kept asking me whispered questions about what was going on - questions that, perhaps, might not have been asked with a simple crawl. Plus, it's tradition, and though the film didn't need it to work, it just... felt wrong? I dunno.

I loved that none of the heroes survived, and that the focus was more on the non-Sensitives. It made it more gritty and insightful, particularly since you caught a glimpse of the less savoury side of the Rebellion. I also liked that there wasn't a romance there; I thought for a while that Cassian and Jyn were building to it, but adding such a relationship would have felt a little forced and unnecessary, and I'm glad it was absent.

The droid. Amazing. :-) Not surprising, given the actor, but he was a welcome dose of dead-pan comedy in what was otherwise a grittier space opera war film - and not in a bad way.

Vader... I, like most others here, LOVED his final scene. The way he dispatched the rebels was incredible, and really gave you insight into his raw power and malice. It made me squeal in the cinema. Loudly. Not going to lie.

Unlike most others it seems, I actually really liked Tarkin's CGI, and felt that Leia looked... odd. Not bad , but odd. Tarkin on the other hand was awesome, but again that's just my humble opinion.

All in all, I loved it. Not sure where I'd rank it compared to the other films, particularly the OT, but it's certainly a great addition to the franchise.

I think with giving us the intro played out like it did worked rather well as replacement of the crawl. That was actually the part I really like about the movie, basically everything up the moment they showed the title was great. It went downhill from there for us. ;-)

btw:

Tarkin was passable, my wife did not noticed it even, Leia was an oddity, you would think they have the budget to waste 100 grand on a 5s scene, but I guess they have not ;-)

Though Star Citizen did imo a better job at this than Rogue One, so Disney is behind an Indie game developer. Anyway, I liked that they had the guts to do it and while it certainly will look odd for many in a few years, it still good enough to not distract really from the acting and the acting of that CGI model was better than from half the cast in the movie. So little to complain about that imho, the CGI did its job very well.

For all I care we could stop real world footage and just use that kind of quality CGI for a full featured star wars rebels movie. "Rebels - A star wars side story" , give Filoni full creative control and I will be a happy man.

I really don't get the hatred for Leia's CGI look.

It was on the exact level of Takin's if not better...

I really don't get the hatred for Leia's CGI look.

It was on the exact level of Takin's if not better...

I guess it's all a matter of perception. I found Leia to be far more "artificial" looking than Tarkin, as well.

I really don't get the hatred for Leia's CGI look.

It was on the exact level of Takin's if not better...

Tarkin worked a bit better IMO because Peter Cushing has a very detailed face. They captured the cheekbones, wrinkles, and angles perfectly. The texture of the skin itself was a little off though, and I think it was much more noticeable on a character with a smooth face.

I do wish the final 20min wasn't just a constant stream of heroic sacrifices where everybody dies a moment or two after they achieve their mission. I appreciate a lot of the characters couldn't be kept around, but they had a large enough supporting cast that they could have had several make a desperate retreat. It'd have been a lot more tragic if, say, Bodhi, Baze and a bunch of the rebel commandos were pinned down at the landing pad and realised that with the facility in lockdown, there was no way of rescuing Jyn and Cassian. The only thing they could do would be to retreat, and trust in the Force everything would work out (just like Chirrut did). Them not turning up in the OT would hardly be a big deal (and hey, who's to say none of the rebel commandos in RotJ were survivors from Scarif anyway?).

The only thing Leia had going in her favor is that the shot was 5 seconds long vs the five minutes of screentime that Tarkin had.

I couldn't help but think of these two scenes seeing the Monkey Alien firing from the side door in the U-Wing. Warning, as this is a Vietnam War Flick there will be some bad language, and some rather racially insensitive language.