Hi all, playing Han and Rey Ambush and have two rules questions I'm hoping someone can help out with - preferably pointing to the rules reference as I can't find anything to support my theories.

1) With Infamous, can I target a yellow card that already has Ambush to stack the Ambush triggers and take multiple extra actions? If I have two Infamous in play, can I target the same card twice to get three extra actions?

1b) If I play a yellow card with Ambush that's augmented with extra Ambush from Infamous, do I get multiple shields on Han Solo or just the one?

2) Can I play Shoot First without me and my opponent having any ranged die just to get an Ambush trigger?

Cheers!

Hi all, playing Han and Rey Ambush and have two rules questions I'm hoping someone can help out with - preferably pointing to the rules reference as I can't find anything to support my theories.

1) With Infamous, can I target a yellow card that already has Ambush to stack the Ambush triggers and take multiple extra actions? If I have two Infamous in play, can I target the same card twice to get three extra actions?

1b) If I play a yellow card with Ambush that's augmented with extra Ambush from Infamous, do I get multiple shields on Han Solo or just the one?

2) Can I play Shoot First without me and my opponent having any ranged die just to get an Ambush trigger?

Cheers!

1. No. "Double Ambush" isn't a thing.

2. I can't get to the Rules Reference Guide right now, but I think you can. Someone else will have to opine.

No and no. The RRG makes it clear that keywords don't stack. The other scenario was discussed here: https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/236764-playing-cards-for-no-effect/

2) Can I play Shoot First without me and my opponent having any ranged die just to get an Ambush trigger?

Cheers!

Nope. Shoot First has "then" in it's effects text:

“THEN” EFFECTS (p17):

In order to resolve an effect that is preceded by the word “then,” the previous effects on the card must have fully resolved (i.e., the game state changes to reflect the intent of the effect in its entirety). If the part of an ability that precedes the word “then” does not successfully resolve in full, the part of the ability that follows the word “then” does not attempt to resolve.

If you don't have a ranged die showing, pretty sure you can STILL play shoot first... just for Ambush (giving han a shield) and then the card basically fizzles.

Nope! This is why I posted the link.

"A player cannot choose to resolve dice symbols if they have no symbols of that type to resolve. A player must resolve at least one die when taking this action."

But IN the link you posted they are saying that you DO get the ambush keyword. That's what I'm agreeing with.

Nope! This is why I posted the link.

"A player cannot choose to resolve dice symbols if they have no symbols of that type to resolve. A player must resolve at least one die when taking this action."

But IN the link you posted they are saying that you DO get the ambush keyword. That's what I'm agreeing with.

Yeah, I think Crabbok is saying, I will pay my 1 cost resource event, it goes Ambush for a shield, and then the rest does nothing. So he's basically saying he's going to pay 1 resource for 1 shield.

Or does the Rules say otherwise?

~D

They're saying that anything preceded by the "then" clause can be resolved, but that's not correct. You must have a valid die face to resolve before you can even play the card.

But IN the link you posted they are saying that you DO get the ambush keyword. That's what I'm agreeing with.

But the card is unplayable. It's conditions can't be met. If there are no ranged die to resolve, the card is illegal to play.

But IN the link you posted they are saying that you DO get the ambush keyword. That's what I'm agreeing with.

But the card is unplayable. It's conditions can't be met. If there are no ranged die to resolve, the card is illegal to play.

It doesn't have any conditions that need to be met for it to be played.

Ok fair enough. There was a comment on the first page of the link that said you could basically pay 1 resource for 1 shield by using Ambush and letting the rest of the card fizzle... I was assuming that was somehow a valid ruling.

Makes sense though that you'd need a target to begin the spell.

You don't need the opponent's die though, right? You can shoot first at an unarmed Greedo in this case right?

But IN the link you posted they are saying that you DO get the ambush keyword. That's what I'm agreeing with.

But the card is unplayable. It's conditions can't be met. If there are no ranged die to resolve, the card is illegal to play.

It doesn't have any conditions that need to be met for it to be played.

Hmm. The more I'm thinking about this... I do believe you're right. The card doesn't say "can only be played", it doesn't ask to spot a character of certain color... it just says pay 1 resource, resolve a yellow die you own with a ranged symbol, if you did your opponent must discard a die with a ranged symbol. Get ambush for playing the card.

Yeah... fair enough.

Gonna retract my statement. I think you can totally play this card with having a yellow die showing a ranged symbol. It won't do anything but it is played and so you do get ambush.

RR p. 06, "Events" section:

In this specific case:

Shoot First has no play restrictions at all. Definition of play restrictions below.

RR p. 19, "Play Restrictions" section:

Additionally, how abilities and "then" effects work.

RR p. 16, "Abilities" section:
"Cards can have more than one ability; each ability is its own
paragraph on the card."

RR p. 17, "“Then” Effects" subsection:

Well, I suppose I have to give you that one.