Genuinely didn't mean to appear to be snarky or one-upping you Beatty and if that's what happened, then please except my unqualified apologies. There was certainly no intended disrespect.

I thought you had a good idea, which I agreed with, but rather than just ask a forum dedicated to a part of the Star Wars fandom that tends to attract relatively rabid fans to not talk about the newest movie, I wanted to provide an alternative method by which we could share our giggles about a movie most of us will love while also making sure everyone gets a chance to enjoy the story fresh.

Are predictions allowed?

If so, I predict the Rebellion will acquire the data tapes revealing the weaknesses in that Death Star thing.

Everybody dies.... the end.

Spoiler alert, Imperials have a big space station with a planet destroying laser. Ive taken to calling it a death star.

Genuinely didn't mean to appear to be snarky or one-upping you Beatty and if that's what happened, then please except my unqualified apologies. There was certainly no intended disrespect.

I thought you had a good idea, which I agreed with, but rather than just ask a forum dedicated to a part of the Star Wars fandom that tends to attract relatively rabid fans to not talk about the newest movie, I wanted to provide an alternative method by which we could share our giggles about a movie most of us will love while also making sure everyone gets a chance to enjoy the story fresh.

Yeah I personally didn't see it as a "One Up" kind of thing. It is very hard to discern tone in text.

As another 45 year old swimming in the younger Internet sea, i am also a bit concerned about the generalization of today's youth as being (enter any issue here.) I'm thinking this is a natural thing that older folks do to younger folks. We just have the Internet to do it with now.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise."

- Socrates

Sorry about going off but I am getting sick of the new American culture of "one upping" everything being said.

Now that that is out of the way I hope everyone is on the same page of no open spoilers.

Sadly text is poor form of communication so much of what is intended to be said isn't conveyed. Why so many kids just talk emoji these days. BTW, while one upping is very common, so it getting offended by everything.

Actually being offended by being disrespected is not a new thing, that is a timeless thing. Being offended by "trigger" words is the new thing. Trust me, in the past when someone tried to One Up you (especially younger people) it ended up in someone getting a good lesson in respect. Saw it a Lot back in the day. More so than today. Otherwise you are dead right, text does not convey a message very well when it is typed in 140 characters or less. Which also applies to forums too because no one is going to read a novelized post four pages long without good reason.

Actually being offended by being disrespected is not a new thing, that is a timeless thing. Being offended by "trigger" words is the new thing. Trust me, in the past when someone tried to One Up you (especially younger people) it ended up in someone getting a good lesson in respect. Saw it a Lot back in the day. More so than today. Otherwise you are dead right, text does not convey a message very well when it is typed in 140 characters or less. Which also applies to forums too because no one is going to read a novelized post four pages long without good reason.

You assume that the old ways of getting respect lesson via violent act is a valid way to teach respect. The simple act of beating opponent down with no chance of anything ever going wrong is the only outcome of said lesson. As to get respect that way you must be bigger and stronger than the one you are demanding respect from or you will learn it ain't really about respect but who can make good on the threat of violence, and no really earns true respect that way just fear and hate. Many a people have threatened to such a lesson but refrained to do so when the word got back to them I was a crazy psycopath and never fought fair and tended to lurk in the bushes for revenge. Not a word of it was true (I was a master of psychological warfare) but I never got those lessons in respect, so it worked. In fact I tended to get respect, or was it fear and hate it's all the same I guess.

I think we all need to be a bit more inclusive of people who thrive on fear and hate. Fear and hate lead to the Dark Side, and the Dark Side is the victim of a lot of microaggressions around here. People bandy about words like 'evil' and 'dictatorial', using these terms like pejoratives.

But that aside:

I know Beatty personally. He does not ascribe to the notion of respect-through-violence, even if the way he phrased his point makes it easy to interpret it that way. My guess is that he was referring to situations where young upstarts would fall on their own faces through mistakes that may have not been made if they had been listening to their elders.

For my part, I think there's a lot to be learned from elders - because they also fell on their faces when they were younger. At the same time, the world is changing rapidly, and not all lessons are equally applicable.

Spoiler tags don't go far enough because the text is still loaded, and even if it is not immediately displayed it'll be somewhere on my PC.

I'm standing in the concessions line now. 52 minutes 'till show time. Also, picked up my pre-ordered TIE Strikers (and put in the pre-order for my third Arquitens).

As long as the movie doesn't suck.... I'll stop typing now, because any way in which I end that sentence may provoke a jinx, and I am strong in the Jinx.