Well, WonderWAAAGH has a special skill of pushing people's buttons...

Also, please don't call other forum members idiots, no matter how they behave.

On topic: I loved Rogue One, but I can see some of its flaws. However, the one thing that dominated for me was how the movie portrayed the factions, and I loved it.

The rebels were... an actual military organization. They seemed democratic, but grey. They wanted to/did assasinate people. They fought asymmetrically. They had a radical wing. I loved that ragtag guerilla feeling. Can't all be shiny heroes.

And the empire seemed... like a true force. The death troopers really performed like an elite unit, giving surpression fire etc., spreading out, covering their leader... just great. And the people in charge seemed competent - yet opportunistic and morally deprived. But not Evil stupid. That's just how I always pictured the empire.

In TFA it was just shiny space knights vs evil space nazis.

Well, WonderWAAAGH has a special skill of pushing people's buttons...

Also, please don't call other forum members idiots, no matter how they behave.

On topic: I loved Rogue One, but I can see some of its flaws. However, the one thing that dominated for me was how the movie portrayed the factions, and I loved it.

The rebels were... an actual military organization. They seemed democratic, but grey. They wanted to/did assasinate people. They fought asymmetrically. They had a radical wing. I loved that ragtag guerilla feeling. Can't all be shiny heroes.

And the empire seemed... like a true force. The death troopers really performed like an elite unit, giving surpression fire etc., spreading out, covering their leader... just great. And the people in charge seemed competent - yet opportunistic and morally deprived. But not Evil stupid. That's just how I always pictured the empire.

In TFA it was just shiny space knights vs evil space nazis.

Uh, I believe they're actually space samurai .

The death troopers were another miss for me. After all of the marketing hype leading up to the movie I thought they'd do more than demonstrate basic infantryman skills, but after a re-watch of TFA I've decided that First Order stormtroopers are far and away the more menacing of the two. At least they haven't ruined dark troopers for me... yet.

Yeah I was really hoping this would be the Star Wars movie to have decent squad tactics, use of cover. At least they didn't pull the Rebels stand and wait to get shot at point blank range level of tactics.

Well, WonderWAAAGH has a special skill of pushing people's buttons...

Also, please don't call other forum members idiots, no matter how they behave.

On topic: I loved Rogue One, but I can see some of its flaws. However, the one thing that dominated for me was how the movie portrayed the factions, and I loved it.

The rebels were... an actual military organization. They seemed democratic, but grey. They wanted to/did assasinate people. They fought asymmetrically. They had a radical wing. I loved that ragtag guerilla feeling. Can't all be shiny heroes.

And the empire seemed... like a true force. The death troopers really performed like an elite unit, giving surpression fire etc., spreading out, covering their leader... just great. And the people in charge seemed competent - yet opportunistic and morally deprived. But not Evil stupid. That's just how I always pictured the empire.

In TFA it was just shiny space knights vs evil space nazis.

Uh, I believe they're actually space samurai .

The death troopers were another miss for me. After all of the marketing hype leading up to the movie I thought they'd do more than demonstrate basic infantryman skills, but after a re-watch of TFA I've decided that First Order stormtroopers are far and away the more menacing of the two. At least they haven't ruined dark troopers for me... yet.

Hell I'll give you that one. At least the First Order's troops actually move like soldiers.

Well, WonderWAAAGH has a special skill of pushing people's buttons...

Also, please don't call other forum members idiots, no matter how they behave.

On topic: I loved Rogue One, but I can see some of its flaws. However, the one thing that dominated for me was how the movie portrayed the factions, and I loved it.

The rebels were... an actual military organization. They seemed democratic, but grey. They wanted to/did assasinate people. They fought asymmetrically. They had a radical wing. I loved that ragtag guerilla feeling. Can't all be shiny heroes.

And the empire seemed... like a true force. The death troopers really performed like an elite unit, giving surpression fire etc., spreading out, covering their leader... just great. And the people in charge seemed competent - yet opportunistic and morally deprived. But not Evil stupid. That's just how I always pictured the empire.

In TFA it was just shiny space knights vs evil space nazis.

Uh, I believe they're actually space samurai .

The death troopers were another miss for me. After all of the marketing hype leading up to the movie I thought they'd do more than demonstrate basic infantryman skills, but after a re-watch of TFA I've decided that First Order stormtroopers are far and away the more menacing of the two. At least they haven't ruined dark troopers for me... yet.

Hell I'll give you that one. At least the First Order's troops actually move like soldiers.

Ep3 clone troopers are probably the most realistic of all since they were motion captured by actual soldiers.

I saw it. Thought it was fine. Not that great. Acting seemed a bit off at times...the characters were rather interchangeable and shallow. A LOT of "OMG a whole group of guys just appeared from nowhere!" sort of moments that I just hate. Too much Hollywood stuff; the MASTER SWITCH just sitting in the open looking as MASTR SWITCH as possible... The whole "you need to use the claws to get the plans out of the library" thing... A lot of stupid stuff like that. Didn't love the guy with the blaster who would just run in and shoot every storm trooper instantly. Still can't stand that a director can't make storm troopers and rebels move like soldiers. Music was jarring.

Loved the images of the space battle, and the fill in for the story. Glad they used CGI rather than cut Tarkin or whatever... He is an essential part of the story. Liked the droid; great voice acting on him. Otherwise... Eh?

I just want a Shawshank-level Star Wars movie. That will never happen.

I saw it. Thought it was fine. Not that great. Acting seemed a bit off at times...the characters were rather interchangeable and shallow. A LOT of "OMG a whole group of guys just appeared from nowhere!" sort of moments that I just hate. Too much Hollywood stuff; the MASTER SWITCH just sitting in the open looking as MASTR SWITCH as possible... The whole "you need to use the claws to get the plans out of the library" thing... A lot of stupid stuff like that. Didn't love the guy with the blaster who would just run in and shoot every storm trooper instantly. Still can't stand that a director can't make storm troopers and rebels move like soldiers. Music was jarring.

Loved the images of the space battle, and the fill in for the story. Glad they used CGI rather than cut Tarkin or whatever... He is an essential part of the story. Liked the droid; great voice acting on him. Otherwise... Eh?

I just want a Shawshank-level Star Wars movie. That will never happen.

I think part of the problem is that the precedent has already been set when it comes to stormtroopers. I think it was a deliberate choice to have their movements mimic those of Stormtroopers from the Original Trilogy.

The Claws and Master Switch stuff I didn't mind. The claws may be there to ensure that the equipment doesn't get soiled by dust, grease, dirt, hair etc and the Master Switch wasn't, IMO, intended to be some kind of security measure rather just a master isolation switch, maybe so they could better manage data distribution or software updates. Baze the Aimbot was a bit over the top but I imagine that he and space-ninja Chirrut were both force-sensitive to some degree. It's the only explanation for their superhuman abilities.

Chirrut was 100% force sensitive.

Baze, maybe/maybe not. I think not and just over-the-top accurate. Kinda like the physics-doesn't-work-that-way flying Poe was capable of in TFA.

So. Rogue One team and missions for Imperial Assault, then?

So. Rogue One team and missions for Imperial Assault, then?

Very doubtful we will get missions that mimic the film. FFG has repeatedly stated that the Imperial Assault playable heroes and missions are about new stories, not replaying the films, that is why the OT characters are just Allies. Probably a decent chance of the Rogue One characters appearing in Ally/Villain packs though.

Jim

I just watched it again with my 10yo. Such a great movie. I can't wait for the Bluray.

Religious fanatics, who believe themselves bulletproof, fighting in the desert with guerilla tactics against a vastly technologically superior empire whose strategy is "rule by fear", aka "shock and awe", that does ring a bell.

Religious fanatics, who believe themselves bulletproof, fighting in the desert with guerilla tactics against a vastly technologically superior empire whose strategy is "rule by fear", aka "shock and awe", that does ring a bell.

1. No side is technologically superior here

2. You will find the listed components in EVERY war/fight

Oh, btw, another annoying thing... JUST as the sniper creeps up, the head techs decide to leave their warm, dry massive base in order to have a meeting in the rain on the equivalent of a landing strip. At that exact moment. Ugh.

There was SO much of this lazy, lazy writing... it just pulled me out of the movie terribly. Far too many "whoops, isn't that nice how it worked out!" moments.

But it wasn't like that, They were outside waiting for Krennic to arrive. And both Krennic and the Rogue crew found out about Eadu being a key component to their mission at the same time, so they'd arrive around the same time.

So it's fine.

I loved it.

I loved how it explains that the death star is essentially a gigantic lightsabre. Which kind of asks the question I never thought to ask...why the hell not have huge lightsabres as ultimate killy death killers?

What I hated, really hated was fake cgi leia and (apparently) it wasn't even Carrie Fisher under the pixels. Stupid.

My only other niggle is the selfishness displayed by the mother in first few scenes. To abandon your child to essentially commit suicide, I suspect I was supposed to feel sympathy for her. In fact I thought she was fully deserving of a laser to the face.

But it wasn't like that, They were outside waiting for Krennic to arrive. And both Krennic and the Rogue crew found out about Eadu being a key component to their mission at the same time, so they'd arrive around the same time.

So it's fine.

But Krennic happened to land at the same exact time that the Rebel guy landed and then climbed a mountain?

And they just happened to have a meeting in the pouring rain? Why wouldn't they meet inside? It wouldn't have been that hard to write... just have them go inside, and have the rebel guy have to take the shot through a window or something. It felt unnecessarily "movie!".

It was like the "control the arms to get the data file" thing. That would be completely automated. There is no way that people would be manually removing those things... I mean, think about how HUGE that library was. What, someone is supposed to eyeball getting one at the bottom? That sort of thing is automated TODAY... obviously it would be in that universe.

There was just SO much of that, and it just pulled me out of the story.

I would have given the movie maybe a 6, if 10 is something like Shawshank.

If "OMG coincidences!" is your biggest gripe with Rogue One, then you must have REALLY loved The Force Awakens...

I also had a problem with the Eadu scene, but not so much for the happenstance of Galen Erso being outside the base at the same time as the sniper's arrival. That was just incredibly lucky, and as is known in Star Wars, there is no luck. The Force manipulates events to put people precisely where it needs them to be.

Is this an excuse for lazy writing? Sure, but thems the breaks when your world building includes an ever prescient and ever present force that connects all living things and has shown to have a will of its own.

The problem I had with the scene was the rebellion's response to losing contact with their agent. They dispatched a small strike force of X-Wings with Y-Wing bombers to destroy the base to kill Erso in Cassian's stead.

The base that was built into the side of a mountain.

With bombs that barely managed to destroy a landing strip.

...he was inside the mountain...

There would have been no way that the force they sent would have been able to successfully destroy the base, or confirm that Erso was killed, as the strikeforce would have been chased off by an Imperial response, like always (as the rebels have to rely on hit-and-run tactics).

Well, you know, unless their target just happened to be standing outside the mountain base at the exact time the strike force arrived.

It was a stupid contingency plan.

The whole base blew up as a result of the bombing run. It was a successful strike. Their contingency plan, while based on bad intelligence, worked.

I don't remember that much damage being done to the base, other than the externally, before the TIE response chased them off. My memory must be failing me.

You guys know in real life when the higher ups arrive everyone comes to great them.

"The guy who keeps us alive is arriving we're going to meet him when he arrives."

"But sir, it's raining and I'm cozy"

"Oh Allright then, we'll dispatch with the customs and courtesies then."

They could have greeted him inside. But maybe it was a deliberate order from Krennic to make the situation more dramatic and uncomfortable, after all he went there to make a little show for Galen.

I was fine with it, as the audience was shown both the heroes and villain of the film being told the Eadu info around the same time, and so they would arrive around the same time. Just for the film it was written that the Rebels got there first, so Cassian could be up there to snipe before Krennic arrived, but while they were waiting for him.

And exactly as the poster above said, I don't think Krennic cares that it's raining. He's there to find and kill the leak. He messages ahead for them to meet him, sun or rain.

Yeah, it's not like we have precedent for a high-ranking Imperial official to be greeted by Imperial officers and personnel on the landing pad as they leave their transport is it?

...ohwait...