Hey, so... this is the Rouge One discussion thread, and I have a question.

What was the name of that asteroid city at the beginning of the film?

You know, the Omega -looking thingy where Andor shot his informant for being wussy? They don't mention it in the wiki, and I can't find the name anywhere. Something rings, belt... Gerald's Rock?

Except Rebellion General thinks killing someone after rumors get out the project is COMPLETED will solve everything. that whole subplot was kind of stupid.

Well he did say he was worried what else the guy might be dreaming up. I took that as a reference to the Sun Crusher.

Also: the rebels had no idea that the weapon WAS completed.

Indeed, they didn't know the Death Star had even started construction. The only information they had was that the Empire was working on some kind of 'planet killer' weapon, and that Galen was a critical part of that project. They had no detail on how far along the project was, or what form the project would take.

When informed the station was indeed very much operational, and that Jedha's Holy City was gone, Draven confirmed his orders, to ensure Erso wouldn't create something worse.

But they didn't know the station was complete.

Nobody saw the shot at Jedha - the heroes who survived it had been in jail cells at the time the blast started, and jumped into hyperspace directly from the atmosphere without ever seeing what fired it.

Again, they didn't know it was finished . Best they could deduce is that a test shot had been made (but even THAT isn't a sure thing - maybe it was just a bombardment from a fleet, or some kind of bomb, or anything else). There were certainly no planets that were entirely-exploded that they could deduce "well, sure, it's totally complete now - no point in killing the designer". Tarkin didn't exactly leave any witnesses (remember that the official story was going to be 'just an earthquake' - I'd assume our heroes would be smart enough to know THAT wasn't true, but at the same time, that it was an attack from a fully-complete Death Star...which they had no idea was a thing ...would be an unlikely conclusion for them to draw).

TLDR the whole thread.

Comparing the trailers with the actual movies, there were quite a few changes. Before the reshoots it seems:

From the trailers:

• The Alliance knew about the Death Star all along and sent Jyn on the mission
• Jyn and Cassian make it to the beach with the Death Star plans
• TIE Fighters were involved with the Scarif ground battle
• On the platform, a TIE Fighter either almost kills Jyn or has been commandeered by a Rebel and saves Jyn

Guesswork

• Jyn doesn't give a rousing speech to recruit her Scarif team
• Jyn and Cassian have to go to another building to transmit the plans
• There was no shield gate
• The Darth Vader slaughter didn't happen
• Leia getting the plans was not shown
• The plans were beamed straight to the Tantive IV, which would put in much more in line with this:

• Jyn and Cassian make it to the beach with the Death Star plans

From the missions in Star Wars Battlefront, I think we get an idea of the original ending.

1. You fight to infiltrate the shield gate.
2. On the ground, you blow up cargo ships as a distraction.
3. Then finally you have to escape from a bunker to the beach while holding the plans (if you die, a teammate can pick them up and continue the trek to the beach from where you left off) where a U-Wing is waiting to extract you in order to win the match.

If holding the transmission tower to complete an upload was always the win condition in the movie, they could have used the Turning Point mode, or the uplink defense from Walker Assault to emulate the onscreen action.

Hey, so... this is the Rouge One discussion thread, and I have a question.

What was the name of that asteroid city at the beginning of the film?

You know, the Omega -looking thingy where Andor shot his informant for being wussy? They don't mention it in the wiki, and I can't find the name anywhere. Something rings, belt... Gerald's Rock?

The Ring of Kafrene.

Straight out of Blade Runner.

Wobani, why did they have to name it an thinly veiled anagram of Obi Wan?

I was way more into the 'prison' break being from a Turbo Tank. Only got the anagram after.

Wobani, why did they have to name it an thinly veiled anagram of Obi Wan?

Wobani was where Jyn was being held and where they break her from the Turbo Tank.

Ring of Kafrene is the asteroid base.

I know, I mentioned Kafrene right above my Wobani post. .

Hard to find online..

Wobani, why did they have to name it an thinly veiled anagram of Obi Wan?

Wobani was where Jyn was being held and where they break her from the Turbo Tank.

Ring of Kafrene is the asteroid base.

I know, I mentioned Kafrene right above my Wobani post. .

Hence the edit

C'mon, we all know who the first gay couple were. Finn and Poe.

Saw the movie again, loved it a bit more. Sat closer so I was able to see the little details better.

Hello Chopper.

A life well spent.

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I like the RLM guys, their prequels roasting will always be a favorite of mine, but they missed the mark with this one.

The reality is that they harped way too much on it not being new, but faulting Rogue One for doing Star Wars stuff is like faulting Inglorious Basterds for using the same old boring Nazis and the same old boring Tommy Guns to kill them.

The reality is that the average moviegoer isn't nearly as well-versed in Star Wars as the die hard fans are, and probably missed 75% of the callbacks in the film. Those were there for the fans, and a nod to the originals.

Rogue One accomplished two things: It gave the die hard Star Wars fans everything they wanted, and it gave regular moviegoers a film they could digest and enjoy, even without context. We had a guy with us (the second time I saw it) who had never seen Star Wars before, and he enjoyed it. I went with two crazy die hards who will even try to justify the prequels, and they loved it. And then there's me, and I'm a stickler for story and character motivations that make sense (which is why I thought TFA was bland and forgettable), and I still thought Rogue One was excellent.

At this point, I feel like Rogue One has been a target for people who want to be snobs about a franchise film, just for the sake of. Rogue One is a war film, in the manner of The Dirty Dozen or The Inglorious Basterds. Nobody remembers anything about most of the Dozen, nor do they remember anything about Donny, except that he spoke Italian "third best". Those aren't faults in those films. A movie like Rogue One needs a mission (check) and a reasonable reason for the characters to be on that mission (check). Is Rogue One perfect? Absolutely not. But it's way better than they're giving it credit for. Especially since they continue praise The Force Awakens, which has an invincible protagonist, her morally pure sidekick, and a curated plot that chaperones the audience through a film devoid of any real tension or conflict as Rey learns to be an flying ace, a starship engineer, an escape artist, an Instant Jedi, and masters lightsaber dueling over a trained opponent by having a vision and thinking "The Force!" That was better than Rogue One? Please.

Don't get me wrong. I like the movie, even more so than Episode 7. However they are right. The characters are forgettable (the "inspirational" speech was so "whatever") and it took a while for the movie to get going. However the action scenes were pretty good. In a matter of fact I saw basically every Star Wars game out there from Imperial Assault and Battlefront to Armada and Rebellion then back to X-wing and empire at War in that movie.

This is why I call Rouge One: a Star Wars Story, Star Wars Junk Food . It literally is the movie that makes all those X-wing matches you had on the table seem like something that could happen in cannon (with the obvious exceptions, i.e. Kylo Ren vs Biggs Darklighter).

THESE ART-FARTS CAN GO BACK TO SNARG UPPER MIDDLE (BETTER THAN YOU) TOWN.

Did anyone else notice a variant of the TIE Striker? It seemed to have a flat solar panel running between the wings, just behind the cockpit?

That was the troop transport variant.

That was the troop transport variant.

Thanks I thought thats what it might be, is that what dropped off the Deathtroops on the beach?

I wonder if FFG will do one?

Also when Vaders shuttle boarded the crippled Rebel flagship, it was escorted by a couple of TIE fighters and a couple of what looked like Bombers? TIE Shuttle maybe?

Yeah I totally geeked over the Lambda and Tie Shuttles.

Final question, did we discover the ID of the U-Wing pilot who was flying support on Scarif? The one that dropped the reinforcements off, had Bistan as a door gunner, eventually shot down.

Is that Heff Tobber?

Final question, did we discover the ID of the U-Wing pilot who was flying support on Scarif? The one that dropped the reinforcements off, had Bistan as a door gunner, eventually shot down.

Is that Heff Tobber?

From another thread: Laren Joma. Apparently Heff Tobber flew the Blue Squadron U-Wing that didn't make it down to Scariff.

Final question, did we discover the ID of the U-Wing pilot who was flying support on Scarif? The one that dropped the reinforcements off, had Bistan as a door gunner, eventually shot down.

Is that Heff Tobber?

From another thread: Laren Joma. Apparently Heff Tobber flew the Blue Squadron U-Wing that didn't make it down to Scariff.

Thanks!

Hey, so... this is the Rouge One discussion thread, and I have a question.

What was the name of that asteroid city at the beginning of the film?

You know, the Omega -looking thingy where Andor shot his informant for being wussy? They don't mention it in the wiki, and I can't find the name anywhere. Something rings, belt... Gerald's Rock?

Hard to find online..

This language swap is amusingly ironic.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mission_to_Ring_of_Kafrene

I found Rogue One to be about as hollow of a Star Wars experience as the special editions were. To each their own, I guess.

You're clearly dead inside.

You're clearly dead inside.

and he doesn't have the courage to do himself in.

Then all of his posts start to make sense.

You're clearly dead inside.

You've got to imagine that he's an alcoholic whose wife left him

and he doesn't have the courage to do himself in.

Then all of his posts start to make sense.

That's not an okay post Gabe.

You're clearly dead inside.

No, it just takes more than a series of uninspired throwbacks chained together with shallow characters, hollow plots points, and Scorpion King era CGI to entertain me. Even the cool bits were thoroughly undermined by the film's propensity to deprive me of any semblance of immersion.