Sometimes the spiritual nonsense is just that; nonsense. I for one never believed that crystals saught "the one", because as romantic as that sounds it's a rock. A spiritual rock but a rock no less. But rather it's the force users affinity that makes particlar crystals appealing.

On that note, all this talk of shattering crystals brings up an approperate song

just don't do it! XD

My intention with Elaiza is that she plans to Shatter the crystal into a whole mess of shards, as she has a hidden school for prospective Jedi. Spiritual quests are great and all, but sometimes you need to get a bunch of lightsabers into your students' hands and you need to do it soon.

Now this makes sense.

My intention with Elaiza is that she plans to Shatter the crystal into a whole mess of shards, as she has a hidden school for prospective Jedi. Spiritual quests are great and all, but sometimes you need to get a bunch of lightsabers into your students' hands and you need to do it soon.

while this makes sense, I like the idea that Luke really is the last of the Jedi.

Meaning that the only surviving Jedi after A New Hope are Luke and Yoda and Leia maybe that she harldy counts.

While our game officially plays after ANH, my players and I are on the same page that it is supposed to have a Pre ANH feeling.

We will see maybe my player will break a piece off the Crystal, keep it for herself or give it to Elaiza. Either way I'm at the moment intrigued to using it as a powerfull force Artefact which Darth Vader probably would find interest in, too.

Kylo Ren has just one regular Kyber Crystal, but is manufactured poorly, therefore it has two vents, which are the smaller Lightsaber blades

I don’t know that the problem with his lightsaber is the crystal itself, I thought it had more to do with the relatively poor construction of the hilt. Based on an older design, among other things it requires a couple of energy vents, which form what would otherwise be seen as a “ Quillion ” or cross-guard.

Nope. Kylo's saber has a cracked crystal, which makes it unstable, thus requiring the vents. This is stated in the TFA Visual Dictionary .

Yes, but don't you think a crystal like that would generate a LOT of focused energy and would need to have some of the excess vented elsewhere for safety reasons? Plus, weren't they planning to introduce a Kylo Ren-esque Lightsaber to Rebels?

Yes, but don't you think a crystal like that would generate a LOT of focused energy and would need to have some of the excess vented elsewhere for safety reasons? Plus, weren't they planning to introduce a Kylo Ren-esque Lightsaber to Rebels?

Well I think the thing is it is NOT generating focused energy, hence why it is unstable and generating extra heat.

But then again mixing pseudo science fiction with real science is a bad idea, so I leave it at that.

However it does have two vents and we don't know how much energy is vented, we just know that it is enough to generate two mini lightsabers and I also believe that this position is the safest possible on a blade handle.

Think about it, where do you never put your fingers when wielding a blade? The blade itself and the Crossguard, these are also allways pointing away from you, but if you would put it somewhere else on the blade, it will be dangerous for the wielder, as he would be pointing the vent to himself.

Also yes they indeed introduced it in Rebels, it was the Lightsaber the Jedi from the Old Republic used against the Sith of that Era.

There the Vents were used because of the not so advanced technology.

Kylo Ren has just one regular Kyber Crystal, but is manufactured poorly, therefore it has two vents, which are the smaller Lightsaber blades

I don’t know that the problem with his lightsaber is the crystal itself, I thought it had more to do with the relatively poor construction of the hilt. Based on an older design, among other things it requires a couple of energy vents, which form what would otherwise be seen as a “ Quillion ” or cross-guard.

I believe with Kylo Ren's lightsaber, it's a combination of both.

Per the TFA visual dictionary, his lightsaber uses a flawed kyber crystal, which winds up creating an excess of energy. The energy quillions of the crossguard 'saber are used to vent that excess energy, but the overall construction is not that great given that most of the lore of building a proper lightsaber has been lost, and Kylo was most likely working from incomplete information, thus his hilt has a much rougher, unpolished look to it in stark contrast to Anakin's lightsaber.

Not saying Elaiza wouldn’t do that anyway, just that I think she’d have to be really seriously desperate to do so.

But the adventure implies she is that desperate.

The thought occurs to me — getting a crystal for your lightsaber is supposed to be a spiritual quest for a Jedi, and it’s one of those “you know it when you find it” sorts of things.

So, just exactly how did Elaiza come to find the Jewel of Yavin as THE crystal for her?

That seems to me to be a total non-sequitur.

Now, if you wanted to change the explanation such that Elaiza recognized that the Jewel of Yavin was a Kyber crystal and given its size it could be put to use in very horrible situations (e.g., maybe one of the most important crystals that power the Death Star), and that she had to have it in order to keep it out of the hands of those who would abuse it — that is an explanation that I could buy.

But using it as a crystal in her personal lightsaber? That just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me….

I'm pretty sure that Jewel of Yavin was published long before the whole "the crystal calls out to its one intended user" business, and that at the time it was more a case of the Jedi simply selecting what they felt was the best crystal to suit their needs. Generations of Jedi dogma had then using Ilum crystals as the default, but in Legends you had Jedi (including Masters such as Windu) using alternative crystals for their lightsabers, so say nothing of the Sith creating artificial crystals.

"Accusing finger reinforces unquestioned authority."

"Accusing finger reinforces unquestioned authority."

Whoa... things just got serious.

I'm pretty sure that Jewel of Yavin was published long before the whole "the crystal calls out to its one intended user" business

I can't disagree that the EU had very different ideas (wildly divergent ideas even within itself) about how crystals were used. That said, the Gathering episode of the Clone Wars doesn't outright say it, but heavily implies that the crystals call out to specific younglings and not others (not to mention the Force testing them in ways relevant to their personal flaws), and that was canon in both... uh... canons.

One could argue both the "calling" and the tests were a result of the vergence there, rather than a fundamental aspect of crystals, of course.

I'm pretty sure that Jewel of Yavin was published long before the whole "the crystal calls out to its one intended user" business

I can't disagree that the EU had very different ideas (wildly divergent ideas even within itself) about how crystals were used. That said, the Gathering episode of the Clone Wars doesn't outright say it, but heavily implies that the crystals call out to specific younglings and not others (not to mention the Force testing them in ways relevant to their personal flaws), and that was canon in both... uh... canons.

One could argue both the "calling" and the tests were a result of the vergence there, rather than a fundamental aspect of crystals, of course.

That's about my thought, is that the "calling" from the Gathering was more a result of the vergence at the Ilum temple rather than each Initiate only having one specific crystal.

Plus, in the case of "there's only one crystal out there for you," what happens to those Jedi who had their lightsabers lost or destroyed? Kenobi went through at least two lightsabers prior to RotS, as his first one was lost down a pit in TPM, and his second one was confiscated in AotC. Same with Anakin, whose line of "not again, Obi-Wan's gonna kill me!" after his lightsaber got destroyed on the droid assembly line in AotC very strongly suggests that's not the first time he's gotten his lightsaber destroyed.

We also don't know what the new canon's story about where Luke got the kyber crystal for his RotJ lightsaber is, though I'm pretty sure he wasn't able to make a trip to Ilum (heck, he probably has no idea where Ilum even is, or if it exists) and the odds of him stumbling across the crystal that was "meant" for him are such to make successfully navigating an asteroid field look like a casual stroll through downtown Mos Eisley.