SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

Well... sort of. From what I played a big part of the problem was that U-Boats could fire too early. They should still be denied turn one ordinance vs. high PS ships meaning you can have a better initial with them still, which matters a great deal, since a would be dead ship gets another turn to take out a U before it even fires one torpedo.

this

also, scum has mindlink; no need to drop 4 points

..., I'm tempted to try Guri with this, FCS and thrusters. 39 points is a bit steep, but now you have a pretty durable fighter with a possible equivalent of 4 actions: TL (from FCS), offensive focus (from Expertise), defensive focus (Guri's ability) and evade/reposition. Yay.

If you find an evade action on guri's cards can we trade? It still looks good without an evade action.

Heh, shows how much time has passed since I last got to play her. Way too long...

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

No?

The good thing about U boats was the ability to dumbfire without needing to take a TL. Not the ability to get good mods. Or at least, not JUST the ability to get good mods. This doesn't change the requirement to get a TL.

Yes and no. What made them truly good was only needing to get one action and having a ton of dice mods. So now, you only need to TL and you still get focus and Guidance chips essentially. Yes Deadeye made them super easy to fire, but it was R4-agro and Overclocked combined with it and guidance chips that put it over the top.

Yes, getting a TL is harder than focusing. But in a world with manaroo, you can now shove her forward to acquire target locks and these guys can barrel roll into better positions.

expertise is a good showcase for why the shadow caster only has one crew slot

imagine Asajj derping around with expertise, dengar and latz (full mod attack, evade token and latz)

oh the horror

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

No?

The good thing about U boats was the ability to dumbfire without needing to take a TL. Not the ability to get good mods. Or at least, not JUST the ability to get good mods. This doesn't change the requirement to get a TL.

Yes and no. What made them truly good was only needing to get one action and having a ton of dice mods. So now, you only need to TL and you still get focus and Guidance chips essentially. Yes Deadeye made them super easy to fire, but it was R4-agro and Overclocked combined with it and guidance chips that put it over the top.

Yes, getting a TL is harder than focusing. But in a world with manaroo, you can now shove her forward to acquire target locks and these guys can barrel roll into better positions.

See, I disagree. As long as you have to get the TL, ordnance becomes a much less attractive proposition. Especially when it's also attached to significant expense, because you're not getting more than two of these with useful munitions and Expertise.

expertise is a good showcase for why the shadow caster only has one crew slot

imagine Asajj derping around with expertise, dengar and latz (full mod attack, evade token and latz)

oh the horror

I'm pretty sure this wasn't needed to showcase that though. Assaj with Dengar and Latts, Assaj with Tactician and Latts, heck, even Assaj with Ketsu, Latts and title. And that's not even taking into account the possibility of adding 4LOM and/or Zuckuss.

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

No?

The good thing about U boats was the ability to dumbfire without needing to take a TL. Not the ability to get good mods. Or at least, not JUST the ability to get good mods. This doesn't change the requirement to get a TL.

Yes and no. What made them truly good was only needing to get one action and having a ton of dice mods. So now, you only need to TL and you still get focus and Guidance chips essentially. Yes Deadeye made them super easy to fire, but it was R4-agro and Overclocked combined with it and guidance chips that put it over the top.

Yes, getting a TL is harder than focusing. But in a world with manaroo, you can now shove her forward to acquire target locks and these guys can barrel roll into better positions.

See, I disagree. As long as you have to get the TL, ordnance becomes a much less attractive proposition. Especially when it's also attached to significant expense, because you're not getting more than two of these with useful munitions and Expertise.

Two and a bumpmaster was the better way to fly U-boats anyway, but I can understand your point.

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Why large base if same size as K and ARC?

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Why large base if same size as K and ARC?

"same size"?

**** looks noticeably smaller

also, gameplay purposes

The wings though... not to mention it looks like it has more depth.

Because the K and ARC should both have been large base anyway dammit.

And this thing is a lot longer AND looks to be wider, in an angle that makes it more akward than the ARC potentially as bumps on corners happen to me much more often than bumps on sides.

So the blind guy doesn't need his eyes?
This is almost as good as Finn, the storm trooper who's ability is to miss.

So the blind guy doesn't need his eyes?

This is almost as good as Finn, the storm trooper who's ability is to miss.

I am kinda sad that absolutely nothing in wave 10 synergizes with Finn

thought for sure FFG would throw us a bone outside of pilot Rey, there

I suspect the U-wing is a large base so you can move the wings during play without knocking over ships. While we've gotten used to the ARC and K-wings wingspan getting in the way, now the wings may change position, which means giving it a little extra breathing room is probably a good idea.

The base is large so the ship moves more similar to the other shuttle type ships.

Hmm Luke with expertise is VERY enticing. He will miss Poe's boost but Poe R5P9 and PTL is 37. Luke Expertise R2D2 is 36, 35 for R5P9 instead.

I suspect the U-wing is a large base so you can move the wings during play without knocking over ships. While we've gotten used to the ARC and K-wings wingspan getting in the way, now the wings may change position, which means giving it a little extra breathing room is probably a good idea.

doubt it'll help, since it overhangs like a bastard anyway

be responsible, have your wingspan magnetized

It's a large base so FFG can get more money out of me when I get 3.

I can't say enough how incredibly disappointing the crew in the U-Wing expansion are. They are all just different versions of other cards. Cassian is a better Intel agent. Bohdi is crew LRS. Bistan is a less restrictive Mercenary Co-pilot. Jyn is the only original card and she takes an action to use. They apparently used all their good crew ideas when bringing Scum up to the power level of the other factions. They went a little overboard with that by the way.

It will be expensive, but Rexlar Brath will like Expertise with X7 and mkII engine.

I can't say enough how incredibly disappointing the crew in the U-Wing expansion are. They are all just different versions of other cards. Cassian is a better Intel agent. Bohdi is crew LRS. Bistan is a less restrictive Mercenary Co-pilot. Jyn is the only original card and she takes an action to use. They apparently used all their good crew ideas when bringing Scum up to the power level of the other factions. They went a little overboard with that by the way.

tbf, there is nothing in the game like cassian's prediction --> dial manipulation, nor jyn's jank. Cassian can't just be written off as an int agent since he provides maneuver manipulation that int agent simply does not. He is his own thing

the other guys, though...yeah they're some trash-tier garbage that are little better than rip-offs of current cards

except "nice" Bodhi, whom I cannot fathom a use for

Hmm Luke with expertise is VERY enticing. He will miss Poe's boost but Poe R5P9 and PTL is 37. Luke Expertise R2D2 is 36, 35 for R5P9 instead.

True enough. No thrusters and just 2 shields tho... gonna be a hard sell.

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She sure is pretty! Looks a little silly on a large base tho. Gameplay wise I see why they made it a large base. Loving the wingspans of all those ships.

Ten Numb, Bistan, Autoblaster, and Accuracy Corrector

Why Accuracy Corrector?

If you use Bistan first, his crit gets cancelled and replaced by a hit - you can't use Bistan after using AC