I'm just going to leave these here

By atr127, in X-Wing

now that Norra's fallen through, I'm actually really wondering where exactly we're going to fit this thing

the U might seem decent because, hey, it came with the U (Cassian) but the problem there is Rey (Crew). Rey crew seems amazing and Cassian can use her between full mods (sustained with FCS) and jan (focus and then rey focus into an evade or vice versa) for a very affordable sum package

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

Edited by ficklegreendice

now that Norra's fallen through, I'm actually really wondering where exactly we're going to fit this thing

the U might seem decent because, hey, it came with the U (Cassian) but the problem there is Rey (Crew). Rey crew seems amazing and Cassian can use her between full mods (sustained with FCS) and jan (focus and then rey focus into an evade or vice versa) for a very affordable sum package

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

Rey pilot with a ship with this, basically.

Mmmm, /D Defenders...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Only one point more than my standard Predator. Makes Rexler particularly interesting as you Focus for defense, but if you get some damage go through, you think pretty hard about spending it to flip the cards.

The stress limitation is not trivial, though, and does push you toward Ryad, because she can get stressed, K-turn, and still get Expertise.

People competant with Phantoms might put Expertise to devastating use.

now that Norra's fallen through, I'm actually really wondering where exactly we're going to fit this thing

the U might seem decent because, hey, it came with the U (Cassian) but the problem there is Rey (Crew). Rey crew seems amazing and Cassian can use her between full mods (sustained with FCS) and jan (focus and then rey focus into an evade or vice versa) for a very affordable sum package

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

Rey pilot with a ship with this, basically.

meh

having faced her so many times, I think people are shooting themselves in the foot using a decent but horribly expensive pilot over her economical and potentially incredibly powerful crew

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

Depends on the dial. The requirement to remain unstressed may be an issue if the dial is more Lambda than Ghost.

People competant with Phantoms might put Expertise to devastating use.

Not really. People competent with phantoms have their phantom cards stapled to VI cards for a reason; because when you're a PS7 z95, you get trivially PS killed by a decent chunk of lists out there.

I mean, it makes for an interesting combo with Gunner on a phantom, but that's about it.

I'm thinking Kylo Pilot with this, Gunner, FCS, and HotCoP. Buzzsaw gunship yeah

Time to test some Expertise-Gunner on Boba. It could be a nice alternative to my current Fearlessness-Autoblaster-Dengar Fett build.

Edited by Kharnete

now that Norra's fallen through, I'm actually really wondering where exactly we're going to fit this thing

the U might seem decent because, hey, it came with the U (Cassian) but the problem there is Rey (Crew). Rey crew seems amazing and Cassian can use her between full mods (sustained with FCS) and jan (focus and then rey focus into an evade or vice versa) for a very affordable sum package

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

I looked at Kylo too on the UPS. You can coordinate with him all the time if you put FCS on him to help the squad out. As mentioned above, depends on the dial....

Edited by RStan

I'm sure Kylo won't mind, though. Being able to modify all focus results will make this card better the more dice you throw, and the UPS throws a lot of dice

Depends on the dial. The requirement to remain unstressed may be an issue if the dial is more Lambda than Ghost.

the whole ship is going to be in trouble if the dial is more lambda than ghost :P

I'd settle for YV, honestly, and that's what I'm expecting given the price range on the pilots

On Norra it would be more pricey as well as less flexible. Also, very rarely useful when firing from rear arc and it would shut down the barrel roll / TL combo.

It's also not that good on IGs. Anyone who's ever played them will tell you how often they have to turn around to keep targets in their arcs.

It will be great on PWT and all the fighters that couldn't PLT due to lack of hard greens and their action economy suffered as a result. I mean, I'm tempted to try Guri with this, FCS and thrusters. 39 points is a bit steep, but now you have a pretty durable fighter with a possible equivalent of 4 actions: TL (from FCS), offensive focus (from Expertise), defensive focus (Guri's ability) and evade/reposition. Yay.

Edited by Lightrock

On Norra it would be more pricey as well as less flexible. Also, very rarely useful when firing from rear arc and it would shut down the barrel roll / TL combo.

It's also not that good on IGs. Anyone who's every played them will tell you how often they have to turn around to keep targets in their arcs.

It will be great on PWT and all the fighters that couldn't PLT due to lack of hard greens and their action economy suffered as a result. I mean, I'm tempted to try Guri with this, FCS and thrusters. 39 points is a bit steep, but now you have a pretty durable fighter with a possible equivalent of 4 actions: TL (from FCS), offensive focus (from Expertise), defensive focus (Gur's ability) and evade/reposition. Yay.

Guri doesn't want to be more expensive. Though you could do a very interesting build with this if you stuck on Sensor Jammer as well, she then becomes an absolute devil to kill.

Not really. People competent with phantoms have their phantom cards stapled to VI cards for a reason; because when you're a PS7 z95, you get trivially PS killed by a decent chunk of lists out there.

"Might".

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holy **** it's adorable

also WTF BASE SIZES FFG

A mando merc (generic scum firespray in case you forgot) could make for a very scary (but stupid expensive) offensive threat with homing missiles and/or torpedo of choice. Homers and Adv Protons puts you over 50 points but for the love of all that is holy, don't get into that arc.

The U-Wing looks impressive.

On Norra it would be more pricey as well as less flexible. Also, very rarely useful when firing from rear arc and it would shut down the barrel roll / TL combo.

It's also not that good on IGs. Anyone who's ever played them will tell you how often they have to turn around to keep targets in their arcs.

It will be great on PWT and all the fighters that couldn't PLT due to lack of hard greens and their action economy suffered as a result. I mean, I'm tempted to try Guri with this, FCS and thrusters. 39 points is a bit steep, but now you have a pretty durable fighter with a possible equivalent of 4 actions: TL (from FCS), offensive focus (from Expertise), defensive focus (Guri's ability) and evade/reposition. Yay.

Depends on the build. I've seen 3 very solid Norra builds (aggression with Finn, Regen with R2, arc-dodge with Engine and BB-8)

So it could do very well on an aggressive Norra. And team it with Rey crew and R5-P9 and you can regen as well as be aggressive.

holy **** it's adorable

also WTF BASE SIZES FFG

I was surprised when the K-wing first came out that it wasn't a large base. The idea of large ship only missiles and torps would have been a nice idea, allowing for "heavy XYZ missiles".

I think it might work rather nicely on Twin Laser Turrets - either R2-D6 Horton Salm or Kavil.

It might also, thinking about it, work rather nicely on anyone with a tech slot (see Kylo again!).

Expertise + Weapons Guidance - you can do a rather improved version of Zeta Leader's common trick - spend the focus to turn a blank into a hit, then convert all the regular focus results normally.

The problem with Kylo, is that swarm leader on that ship is just so tempting.

It might work with Ello Asty. If you want to use Ello's ability, you need to keep the T-70 unstressed - which also keeps Expertise enabled, even when pulling talon rolls, and leaves you with only about a 1/6 chance of getting any misses at all on 3 dice....

Edited by Magnus Grendel

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

Expert Cluster Missiles yeah

Rey pilot with a ship with this, basically.

At first glance, yeah. On the other hand, you'd mostly want that if you planned to take EU. And that would put Rey at 62 points. All of a sudden your budget for a wingman starts shrinking considerably.

Depends on the build. I've seen 3 very solid Norra builds (aggression with Finn, Regen with R2, arc-dodge with Engine and BB-8)

So it could do very well on an aggressive Norra. And team it with Rey crew and R5-P9 and you can regen as well as be aggressive.

Please explain to me how on earth is Finn supposed to work on Norra. You want to keep the target lock for her ability, so you can't re-roll the blank. Unless you actually plan to team her up with Shara but that's hideously expensive and stops working as soon as one of the girls goes down.

Edited by Lightrock

SO. U-Boats can now work again, just a bit more expensive is all.

No?

The good thing about U boats was the ability to dumbfire without needing to take a TL. Not the ability to get good mods. Or at least, not JUST the ability to get good mods. This doesn't change the requirement to get a TL.

..., I'm tempted to try Guri with this, FCS and thrusters. 39 points is a bit steep, but now you have a pretty durable fighter with a possible equivalent of 4 actions: TL (from FCS), offensive focus (from Expertise), defensive focus (Guri's ability) and evade/reposition. Yay.

If you find an evade action on guri's cards can we trade? It still looks good without an evade action.

holy **** it's adorable

also WTF BASE SIZES FFG

I was surprised when the K-wing first came out that it wasn't a large base. The idea of large ship only missiles and torps would have been a nice idea, allowing for "heavy XYZ missiles".

makes sense it wasn't, though

utter garbage stat-line and SLAM, which requires two maneuvers making it even more likely to run into ships/obstacles/the table edge

same thing with the U, I guess. That base size with its surprisingly good dial make it quite a blocker (and hey, cassian crew)

gameplay > fluff

still, it is funny

Edited by ficklegreendice