Bigs and TIE/SE

By Tetrarch, in X-Wing Rules Questions

Hi there,

what happens when i have Bigs Darklighter in the front firing arc of a TIE/SE fighter?

Can i still shoot with my rear firing arc or do i have to use my front arc with 3 dice?

And the other way around...

if Bigs is in my rear arc do i have to use the rear arc, or can i chose to not shoot at Bigs and shoot at a target in my front with 3 dice?

Thanks for the answers

Greetings

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If Biggs is in your front Arc, you may still make the second attack in your rear arc against a different target, because Biggs is not an eligible target for that attack.

If Biggs is in your rear arc, then you must attack him first, which negates the TIE/sf title. This is because of the timing chart. You choose weapon, then target. You choose primary weapon, and Biggs in rear arc is an eligible target for primary weapon.

If Biggs is in your front Arc, you may still make the second attack in your rear arc against a different target, because Biggs is not an eligible target for that attack.

If Biggs is in your rear arc, then you must attack him first, which negates the TIE/sf title. This is because of the timing chart. You choose weapon, then target. You choose primary weapon, and Biggs in rear arc is an eligible target for primary weapon.

Remember that if Biggs is more than range 1 away from a friendly, you are free to shoot his buddy.

Like WWHSD says, you only have to shoot at Biggs if he's within Range 1 of one or more of his friends. There's no automatic "must target Biggs" if he's on his own and further away from his friends. A lot of players fall into this trap thinking just because Biggs is on the table you have to shoot at him every time. Biggs does come with certain restrictions.

You choose weapon, then target.

That's new info for me :D If there is no Biggs around, can I choose a different weapon later, after measuring? E.g. I chose missles for a range 3 shot. While measuring I saw a ship at range 1, that would be better for my Primary shot.

You choose weapon, then target.

That's new info for me :D If there is no Biggs around, can I choose a different weapon later, after measuring? E.g. I chose missles for a range 3 shot. While measuring I saw a ship at range 1, that would be better for my Primary shot.

Once you've selected a weapon you have to use it unless it has no legal target.

Side note: Biggs doesn't ever force you to shoot him. He prevents you from shooting his friends, if they're close enough, and that can leave you with no valid targets other than Biggs, But he doesn't force you to shoot at him. It felt that way, back when you he could influence your choice of weapon, but he can no longer do that.

You choose weapon, then target.

That's new info for me :D If there is no Biggs around, can I choose a different weapon later, after measuring? E.g. I chose missles for a range 3 shot. While measuring I saw a ship at range 1, that would be better for my Primary shot.

When a ship becomes the active ship during the Combat phase, you can measure range and check arc from it to any and all enemy ships on the board, even if they're clearly not going to be valid targets. (Rules Reference, p4: "Attack / 1. Declare Target"). This is step 1.i in the flowchart. Note this doesn't allow you to measure distances between any two ships, only between the active ship and one enemy ship at a time. If you're contemplating shooting at somebody who might be at Range 1 of Serissu, you don't get to check whether they'll get the benefit of Serissu's defensive reroll before deciding on your weapon/target. Same goes for checking whether your intended target is within Biggs's Range 1 bubble, although it's not as big a deal there, because if Biggs prevents you from targeting his buddy you get to roll back and choose somebody else.

Once you know where everybody is, you choose your weapon (1.ii) and declare your target (1.iii). 1.iii is the stage where Biggs can mess with you and force you to roll back. I don't think we have a firm ruling on whether you can roll back far enough to choose a different weapon or only far enough to choose a different target with the weapon you've already chosen, but I would expect that you could change weapons at that point, since the invalid attempt roll backs are usually pretty forgiving.

If Biggs is in your front Arc, you may still make the second attack in your rear arc against a different target, because Biggs is not an eligible target for that attack.

If Biggs is in your rear arc, then you must attack him first, which negates the TIE/sf title. This is because of the timing chart. You choose weapon, then target. You choose primary weapon, and Biggs in rear arc is an eligible target for primary weapon.

Why would I have to target Biggs first? If I have a valid target in my front, why can't I choose it first then the follow-up shot from my rear arc at Biggs?

If Biggs is in your front Arc, you may still make the second attack in your rear arc against a different target, because Biggs is not an eligible target for that attack.

If Biggs is in your rear arc, then you must attack him first, which negates the TIE/sf title. This is because of the timing chart. You choose weapon, then target. You choose primary weapon, and Biggs in rear arc is an eligible target for primary weapon.

Why would I have to target Biggs first? If I have a valid target in my front, why can't I choose it first then the follow-up shot from my rear arc at Biggs?

Unless somehow Biggs is within range 1 of the dude in front of you, you don't have to do that.

If Biggs is in your front Arc, you may still make the second attack in your rear arc against a different target, because Biggs is not an eligible target for that attack.

If Biggs is in your rear arc, then you must attack him first, which negates the TIE/sf title. This is because of the timing chart. You choose weapon, then target. You choose primary weapon, and Biggs in rear arc is an eligible target for primary weapon.

Why would I have to target Biggs first? If I have a valid target in my front, why can't I choose it first then the follow-up shot from my rear arc at Biggs?

Unless somehow Biggs is within range 1 of the dude in front of you, you don't have to do that.

I didn't think so. Attacking is optional and who you attack and the order of those attacks, with some exceptions, is up to you. I was afraid I missed something the latest FAQ.

Thanks!

So let me just sum this all up. When taking your first shot with the SF TIE you are using your primary (only) weapon. It can fire out either arc and you can't choose to give one priority over another.

Choose any ship in either arc as your target. Is Biggs within range 1 of that ship and also in your arc? If yes, you would have to shoot Biggs instead. If no fire away.

Now, if you shoot out the front and choose to not use the extra die you may then make a second attack out the back. If doing so follow the same procedure as above but ONLY using the rear arc.

Also, as others have mentioned if you are using a ship with multiple weapons options weapon selection happens before target selection and as of the most recent FAQ if you choose a weapon that is unable to target Biggs his ability is nullified regardless of ship positioning. The easiest way to exploit this is with a weapon that requires a target lock.

I target lock Corran Horn. Now during combat I choose Homing Missile as my weapon. Now for target selection I choose Corran Horn because he is the only valid target since my weapon requires a target lock. Biggs is right beside him but it doesn't matter.